LL Cool J - Classic or Dud?

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still hot!!

the art teacher in my high school wz ll cool j's cousin.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...

First song off new album:

"It's LL and Santana"

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

my defense of LL on this thread is a little extreme

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Untoppable as a stage performer.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Extremity in the defense of LL is no vice!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:26 (twenty years ago)

Extremism, I mean.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:27 (twenty years ago)

Not everybody can be as even-tempered and realistic about LL as K is, strongo.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

I gradually have realized that LL is a really horrible actor.

― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Gradually?

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

It took a while to get over my desire to enjoy his presence in films like Deep Blue Sea, Halloween H20 and Mindhunters.

"eenie meanie minie mo, which muthafucka's the next to go?"

― [email protected], Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Fools! After the mountains have crumbled to dust and the western winds blow your ashes across the horizon, El El will still be there. Forever.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Man, I got the new album with Canibus on it (Cloak n Dagga), and he's STILL dissing LL. I mean, LL knocked him the fuck out like six years ago, and he still hasn't gotten over it. Is there a word for someone who just keeps trying to fight after they've been beaten and forgotten? (By the way, that album's pretty shitty, though often inadvertantly hilarious).

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

The new LL/J-Lo single is horrible.

LL has been corny as hell for years.

LL knocked him the fuck out like six years ago

LL hasn't knocked *anyone* the fuck out since like '91

― Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

second round KO was so much better than any of LL's disses against canibus.

i love LL though.. he's a pip.

does he still have that skinny moustache? that freaked me out for real.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

second round KO was so much better than any of LL's disses against canibus.

so true

― Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm just playing, I actually forgot L.L. was great in Woo. "Take off your clothes."

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

And for the record, too classic to ever be anything but classic. Radio was the first compact disc I bought.

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:17 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

classic for facing down fox news' bizzare use of an old interview. wtf to fox's snippy put-down of a response (we "wish him the best with his fledgling acting career")

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

fledgling since the movie Toys, yeah.

― Jack traded Milky-White to the troll for a magical (remy bean), Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

stay classy, fox news network.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqQ0rLY-Qo

― scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

don't sleep on LL in Maine. might change your life...

― scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

awesome

is he playing a school dance??

― xxx heady xxx heady (haitch), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

I have a house in Brooklyn, I live in Queens...

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

is there such a thing as "live in Maine"?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

history maine

― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:47 (thirteen years ago)

this is fantastic.

― mr.raffles, Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

"memorieeeees..." bahahaha this video is the best.

― mr.raffles, Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

This is rap's Gimme Shelter, Stop Making Sense, and Last Waltz rolled into one half-hour masterpiece

― Walter Galt, Sunday, 27 January 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

what I am taking away from the first three tracks on Authentic is that LL is way more interested in collaborating with people than he is in making a cohesive album

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

you say that as if that's at all unique for the past 15 years of hip hop

― bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

not at all unique, just... this is so LAZY

is there a gear below autopilot?

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

authenticpilot

― bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

my entire hip-hop existence is defined by giving older dudes a massive pass and I've been pro-LL through "Headsprung" so the degree to which this whole thing is just a bland belly flop is legitimately upsetting

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

okay bland is maybe not the best word to describe "We're The Greatest", lol

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

LL, and increasingly Jay-Z, are kind of in a category to me of artists who've already had such unprecedented longevity that at this point anything good they do is just a bonus round and anything that sucks is like, well, they had a good run.

― bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

"my entire hip-hop existence is defined by giving older dudes a massive pass"

― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

"my entire _____ existence is defined by giving older dudes a massive _____"

― The Reverend, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

I am pretty sure that YouTube was invented so that one day it would be able to play this video. My friend who brought it to my attention explained it thusly:

"A German dude, who sounds like Falco, his mom driving a car and chiming in on the chorus with his dad in the back seat with an accordion and covering the scratches."

Absolutely brilliant. And when they finish the song, keep listening because German dude's outro is equally brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-VM5wqzhWY

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 22 February 2015 05:30 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

G.O.A.T, this one.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 03:18 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

Damn

LL Cool J feat. Rick Ross & Fat Joe

Produced by Q-Tip

“Saturday Night Special” 🔥🔥🔥
pic.twitter.com/wcIxh9bNrd
— Andrew Barber (@fakeshoredrive) June 14, 2024

― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Friday, 14 June 2024 19:15 (one year ago)

I love that beat

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 June 2024 22:45 (one year ago)

I like to introduce myself to strangers at parties as,

The ladies love
Legend in leather
Long and lean
And I don't wear pleather

― Heez, Saturday, 15 June 2024 15:25 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7om2fIAdd0c

another new song. love this...Q-Tip's production on both these songs is bonkers, what a cool decision it was to have him produce the whole thing.

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2024 20:31 (one year ago)

love it

― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Friday, 12 July 2024 21:22 (one year ago)

Sounds great!

― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 12 July 2024 23:28 (one year ago)

four weeks pass...

goddamn q tip is killing it, classic LL perv mode too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oMmmp7PYg

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 August 2024 17:12 (one year ago)

the outro is so cool

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 August 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

damn that's nice. i grew up with a poster of LL on my wall. who knew he'd be exactly what i needed in my mid-40s

― Heez, Friday, 9 August 2024 18:18 (one year ago)

the Gary Numan sample sounds so good

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 August 2024 18:33 (one year ago)

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― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 9 September 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

This album exceeds any hype about it. So great. For those who buy vinyl, (the Euro pressing at least) sounds fantastic.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 21:37 (one year ago)

I wrote 1000 words or so about this record in my latest newsletter.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:20 (one year ago)

Love this album

― Tim F, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:41 (one year ago)

I wrote 1000 words or so about this record in my latest newsletter.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sick, I had like a 20 minute convo with a music writer yesterday about this album. Album is touching all the bases but not fitting into any sort of critical paradigm we're used to seeing

― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 18:22 (one year ago)

Whiney your LL piece was great - loved how candid he was in some of his responses! great read

and the album is so good, i’m really enjoying it

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 19:58 (one year ago)

Thank you so much. I chalk a lot of the good responses to them letting me have an hour with him. He was VERY happy when I told him *my* favorite LL line ("I'm the type of guy that picks her up from work early/Takes her to breakfast, lunch, dinner, and breakfast.")

― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 20:07 (one year ago)

lol yes

Fabulous piece, Whiney, and your piece gave me stuff to think about, unperson.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 20:14 (one year ago)

that west African guitar on Black Code Suite >>>>>

― default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 21:38 (one year ago)

I can't believe how hard they went on this album. Agree w/ the comment that the production even outdoes the last Tribe album.

― Chris L, Thursday, 12 September 2024 14:01 (one year ago)

His VMAs performance last night (featuring Public Enemy) was fire

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 September 2024 14:02 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGqTTXCoZc

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 September 2024 14:05 (one year ago)

^^^ Wow!

I'm gonna have to hear this album. The title track is fabulous.

― jmm, Thursday, 12 September 2024 15:04 (one year ago)

This album, my god. I can't think of a record I've heard in recent times where every track just hits so hard. Like, the first six tracks is just a flawless run

― Sade of the Del Amitri (dog latin), Friday, 13 September 2024 10:39 (one year ago)

I love the song lengths in the second half. It moves along really nicely.

― jmm, Friday, 13 September 2024 13:57 (one year ago)

kills, so nice. if you like olds-in-the-know in-jokes or rap dad joeks, they’re everywhere without seeming like they’re the object of it all. when the numan same hit i was just “fuck it this is how it needs to go.”

― well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 September 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

okay this is my favourite album of the year

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 14 September 2024 04:23 (one year ago)

I’m only docking this album points for not being released earlier because this should’ve been playing at everyone’s backyard party this summer.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 14 September 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

Great listen for sure.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 September 2024 19:05 (one year ago)

based off his appearance, imagine a 40 minute q-tip produced eminem album.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 22 September 2024 06:27 (one year ago)

watching the vuelta i kept getting shown the car commercial with the qtip vox from chem bros song- like 60 times. i like a world w qtip around, instantly recognizable too /old

― well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Sunday, 22 September 2024 13:14 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

That last album still bangs so hard...first hip hop album in years to keep interested front to back...perfect summer soundtrack

― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 13:20 (ten months ago)

Very admirable of LL to cancel his appearance at a 4th of July concert in Philadelphia because city workers there are on strike.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 16:11 (ten months ago)

As they say, Labor Loves Cool James. Was glad to see that.

― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 16:13 (ten months ago)

i was listening to some assorted older LL tracks yesterday and was wondering if "going back to cali" is rick rubin's best production. i love all the little drum machine (808?) percussion hits combined with the live horns. i was trying to find an article or something about the production but didn't see much.

― na (NA), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 19:15 (ten months ago)

the little kalimba melody! how the beat jumps into doubletime and back!

― na (NA), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 19:19 (ten months ago)

one month passes...

i haven't listened to any rap album like this since the dj quik/kurupt blaqkout album. half the beats sound sampled from a broadcast album. the beats q-tip must have at his disposal. the seamless transitions. the fact LL does not for a second slow down on any song.

"mind in the sky but keep a street level view"

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 07:36 (nine months ago)

November will be 40 years since the all-time classic debut.

― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 15:13 (nine months ago)

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