C/D Paul McCartney Solo

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My favourites from WINGSPAN: Bluebird, Junk, Waterfalls, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace, virtually everything that was on WINGS GREATEST back in the day.

Favourite videos: Goodnight Tonight, Pipes of Peace.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I like that "simply having a wonderful Christmastime" song (ducks)

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd forgotten that one. A classic of its genre, instantly recognisable despite using all the Christmas cliches.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Half a C: MCCARTNEY II. This is, by Macca's standards, a completely outre work. Recorded solo-style after breaking up Wings, it's full of strange experiments that occasionally work amazingly well. "Coming Up," "Summer's Day Song" and "One Of These Days" are all great songs, completely void of the usual antiseptic sheen of Paul's post-RAM work. "Frozen Jap" and "Front Parlour" are pleasantly out-of-character instrumentals. You'll want to skip the rest of the LP, though, especially "Waterfalls" and "Darkroom."

Also C: "Jet," "Too Many People," "Let Me Roll It," "Spin It On" (Wings go thrash!)

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 13 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, yeah, I do love 'pipes of peace' and 'simply having...' too.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't forget C moon!

RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Or "Rock Show"!

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 14 February 2003 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)

WINGSPAN shall be my chosen listening today.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I recently rediscovered my 'all the best' cassette that my dad gave me one christmas when I'd asked for george michael's 'faith.'

good old dad.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:21 (twenty-three years ago)

1987.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)

RJG, your story moves me.

the pinefox, Friday, 14 February 2003 13:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Bizarrely, I bought that for my dad. It's one of the few compilations to celebrate the Frog Chorus. Not even the three-dimensional slipcase makes up for that oversight on WINGSPAN.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

: )

I don't think I've even seen a copy of WINGSPAN in a record store.

I reminded my dad about the 'all the best'-for-christmas thing on friday night when we were in a car. he didn't really remember. he said "and why did she [my mum] buy you that instead?" and I told him again and he understood. then he asked "and why did you want 'faith'??" and the answer was...I was six...I had seen it advertised on television.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 February 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i second 1985; that song is really fun... when i was a kid, i used to really enjoy making up stupid lyrics to "let me roll it" like, um, "i can't tell you how i sneeze, my nose is like a breeze - let me blow it"... somehow that joke never got old for me!

dave k, Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

WINGSPAN seems to be on special offer everywhere now. But tread carefully, some of them have boring two-dimensional sleeves. I see there is also a WINGSPAN book available, which must be a real treat. More alarmingly, I saw a bootleg of something called the ROCKESTRA in action. I thought ROCKESTRA was just a piece of music, but no. Fortunately, the bootleg was really expensive, so I didn't get it.

Yes, COMING UP is great.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Here's the book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316860328/qid=1045408789/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_3_1/026-5101041-0610836

It's an intimate scrapbook.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Miller, you're wrong. I've NEVER seen WINGSPAN on special offer ANYWHERE.

Capitals are the new italics.

the pinefox, Sunday, 16 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.fnac.es/dsp/?servlet=extended.HomeExtendedServlet&Code1=4235268501&Code2=85&prodID=338673

If that's not a special offer I'll EAT MY HAT. Note controversial opinion expressed herein: the best solo Paul McCartney work did not appear until FLOWERS IN THE DIRT. Before anyone rushes to order it, please note that it appears to be two-dimensional.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"Every Night" from the first solo album is an idyll of a song, very "Railways Conserve The Environment" 1970 (as opposed to, you know, RADICAL 1970) indeed. I'd have liked it if he'd written "Come And Get It" slightly later so it could be his first solo single, because it's better than "Another Day", or if he'd written it slightly earlier so it could be a Beatles single, because it's better than "Hello Goodbye". The promo film for "Helen Wheels" is fantastically evocative. "Hi Hi Hi" is better than "My Ding-A-Ling" precisely because it *isn't* "in the tradition of the music hall" (the hilarious reason given by the ultra-conservative Charles Curran-era BBC as to why it was still playing Chuck Berry's lowpoint when it had banned the Wings song in December 1972). It's also better than "C Moon", the glorified B-side which stole the airplay.

I used to listen to my mum's copy of "All The Best" all the time. On vinyl, too.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Spies Like Us.

amazing.

Love Coming Up and C Moon too.

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Every Night is wonderful. I have a fondness for the Pipes of Peace that might be spoiled by listening to it again. I wasn't the only 9 year old to have it in my class. I liked 'The Man' off that (w/Michael Jackson) a lot.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:57 (twenty-three years ago)

You should give Pipes of Peace a listen and Report Back, N. The tablas make it curiously modern in the current climate. And the sentiments are obv. very much in vogue.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 09:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Following on from Robin's wishes for Macca to write songs a bit earlier... I've always had this strange dream that the four Fabs actually sat down at some point in early 70, said "Let's forget about 'let it be' and make one final fine EP, one song each..." and they end up doing "Instant Karma", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Isn't it a pity?" and "It don't come easy". Now that would have been good.

And then I wake up.

I had "All the best" on CD for many years, never listened to it, but I'll agree that "Venus and Mars" is a neglected classic, as is the first McCartney LP, very primitive but rather homely.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 February 2003 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)

nick has heard PIPES OF PEACE again, recently--maybe he just didn't notice/doesn't remember.

I had dreams about WINGSPAN last night. or it featured in my last night's dreams. I think it was really big and cost one hundred and twenty-five pounds or twenty-five pounds and was sealed in plastic and didn't tell me the tracklisting.

record shopping w/ allyC, yesterday, we saw many mccartney/wings albums. WINGS AT THE SPEED OF SOUND looked OK but was on cassette and three pounds fifty.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)

SPEED OF SOUND is one of the weaker Wings efforts, I think. "Wino Junko," "Must Do Something About It," "Cook of The House"...no thanks. "Time To Hide" and "Beware My Love" are OK in a '70s AOR sort of way, though.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

'silly love songs' must redeem all.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't hate that much of his studio solo stuff (don't love it either, most of it) but that new live album...the man's lost his voice and won't quit trying. Please, please stop, Paul, for your own sake. You suck like Billy Joel.

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 17 February 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I meant the Pipes of Peace album, RJG. I heard only two tracks off it in your car.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a PIPES OF PEACE album?!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)

It is not all remixes of the title track, sadly.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

It has 'Say Say Say'!

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Are those the two tracks you heard in the car?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes. It was RJG's famous 'All the best'. But I think 'The Man' is also 'the best'. 'Average Person' is not so good, as I recall.

Does anyone else like 'Hope of Deliverance'? I think it has a haunting melody.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes. It's on heavy rotation in my head, helping me face up to the darkness that surrounds us.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

N, did you know that eric stewart of 10cc played on the Pipes of Peace album?

p.s. 'for your love'+'bus stop'=gouldman.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I was thinking of Bobby Gould.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Wasn't Pipes of Peace the one with Stanley Clarke?

dleone (dleone), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Weren't you actually thinking of Graham Gouldman, Nick?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, a mixed solo/Wings career, yet on the whole good I would say; the 1970-75 period produced generally excellent records, likewise 1978-83 (though not the poor 'Back to the Egg'...). 'McCartney II' (his best 'solo' album; most experimental and consistently engaging) & 'Pipes of Peace' (some lovely McCartney pop here) are very underrated albums. 'Tug of War''s best material is much as fine, yet it has some glaringly awful tracks which let it down. 'Red Rose Speedway', of the Wings era, is overlooked; probably the most Beatles-esque of all his post-Beatles albums, with a splendid 'Abbey Road'-like medley to close. Also 'Single Pigeon', 'When the Night' & 'One More Kiss' are deceptively slight, charming compositions. 'My Love' is a majestic McCartney ballad with wonderful guitar breaks... 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' ornate and richly produced melancholy.
'Venus and Mars' (increasingly getting some credit; good to see) and 'Band on the Run' are excellent as well. As is 'Ram' of course, a one-off record, pre-Wings, and yet with a superbly ramshackle focus to it; some very good material - a far better whole than 'McCartney'. 'London Town' - overlooked classic, with mostly fine material; 'I'm Carrying' is sublime... some good upbeat numbers here as well.
So, all of the above 'Classic' really... oh, plus 'We All Stand Together'; light-hearted whimsy given grandeur and grace... 'Once Upon a Long Ago'; amusing, quotable lyrics; a great production, sound and musical invention; fine single. 'Golden Earth Girl'; far and away ahead of most of 'Off the Ground', a majestic, atmospheric song. 'Wanderlust'; prime McCartney, would have graced a Beatles record... indeed George Martin's production and the arranging of the counter-melody harmonies bolster what is already a fine song into something special... 'Tug of War'; a song that gets in your head - brilliantly conceived melody and again production.

Dud: 'Wings at the Speed of Sound', 'Flaming Pie', 'Driving Rain' (a little better than 'FP'), 'Press to Play' (interesting yet not successful experimentation from Macca in 1986...) & 'Back to the Egg' (consistently average, only 'Old Siam Sir' makes any real impression).

Many albums of his i'm mixed about... yet, overall 'Classic', I maybe go towards this strongly as the general consensus is so unfairly a 'dud' opinion. You have to look deep into his work, and will find much that is good...

Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Macca on tour alert! Let's all go! Hits BCN at the end of March, must be in a town near you around about the same time. Well, same year. Hopefully I will be in a different town by then, but I might come back specially.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:14 (twenty-three years ago)

So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it.

mike a (mike a), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Only if people promise to biggie up 'Waterfalls'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

why did ally cook lie and say he'd answered this thread?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 22 February 2003 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

OK. Given All The Best by father also. Heard it again in Richard's car. Silly Love Songs perfect. I like other songs also.

Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it

Too late, it was in the issue with Santana on the cover.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:38 (twenty-three years ago)

No one mentioned 'Arrow Through Me' from Back to the Egg. Other than that, side one of 'Ram', 'Maybe I'm Amazed', bits of McCartney II... yikes, though. yikes.

If one's scratching one's head about how badly Paul's solo cheese wears on the nerves, try the following experiment: program disc one of the white album to only play Paul's tracks. Starts off okay but the unrelenting 'Ob-la-di' to 'Martha My Dear' to 'Blackbird', by the time it gets to 'Rocky Racoon' you'll be clawing your face off.

Jon Leidecker, Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

'So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it'

Search ILM for 'Coming Up' and see how many times I've mentioned it, and how far back these mentions go. Absolute classic

dave q, Friday, 28 February 2003 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

"Search ILM for 'Coming Up' and see how many times I've mentioned it, and how far back these mentions go. Absolute classic."

It should be mentioned that it's the MCCARTNEY II version that should be considered "classic." The live version, which Columbia released as a single in the US, pales in comparison (though there's a very strange meteor-shower synth break toward the end).

Am I the only person who thinks BACK TO THE EGG is almost the equal of BAND ON THE RUN/VENUS & MARS? Probably.

mike a (mike a), Friday, 28 February 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

McArtney & Ram are classic. Everything up through Venus & Mars was great (but not classic), and everything since then has been a bit dodgy. Paul can definitely come on like a real lounge singer/Muzak tape most of the time.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

That's far too sweeping a statement; there is much good in his post-1975 work... 'London Town', 'McCartney II' at least are neglected triumphs for me; and 'Pipes of Peace' and 'Tug of War' are largely very good. Otherwise, certainly a bit patchy as regards consistency in his albums, but good material is there; if being more difficult to find.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

even comparing the Watt to Mutt Lange is so out of line, super insulting to Lange.Watt's productions sound like AI.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 11:33 (three weeks ago)

yeah I don't at all hear Mutt in this sheen.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 11:35 (three weeks ago)

brian johnson fed through the watt vocal garbler is a terrifying idea

ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 11:53 (three weeks ago)

this is well off-topic but i just learned that the watt-produced morrissey track is from the unreleased album he recorded with basically the red hot chili peppers which makes it so much funnier

ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 12:11 (three weeks ago)

I will say Home to Us is very catchy and memorable, usually I get through his new stuff and couldn't remember a note when I'm done.

does Ringo play drums on it?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 12:34 (three weeks ago)

I believe so, yeah.

The vocal processing is odd but the song is lovely!

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:12 (three weeks ago)

The vocals on Ringo's drums were processed too.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 16:15 (three weeks ago)

Should really have got Pete Best in to play the drums.

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:53 (three weeks ago)

Swirls like a 64kbps mp3 file but the song Is charming doggerel. I think Watt has a sound which simulates pop sheen when filtered by octogenarian ears.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 19:33 (three weeks ago)

Just today I got a substack alert about a Pete Best story.

The Man Who Sold the Unisphere (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 20:26 (three weeks ago)

My feeling about the production is that it has charm but also feels a little generic. I don't hear it as sheen. There are at least three rhythm guitars, probably more. I kind of like the treatment of the backing vocals, although if you're going to have Chrissie Hynde, it would be nice to be able to pick her voice out.

timellison, Friday, 15 May 2026 01:51 (three weeks ago)

Giving the album a listen now, it is good!

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 28 May 2026 17:01 (one week ago)

I streamed it in the background (albeit with the volume up) and it's not bad. tbf I haven't given it a close listen, but it's definitely better than expected, and I was expecting something much worse.

birdistheword, Saturday, 30 May 2026 04:08 (one week ago)

His voice is shot bur still:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob3nHfBHPkg

Bee OK, Saturday, 30 May 2026 04:15 (one week ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaWFoV6MLvY

Bee OK, Saturday, 30 May 2026 04:21 (one week ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lce7Jr5YF80

Bee OK, Saturday, 30 May 2026 04:25 (one week ago)

The run of songs on the end sounded great, looking forward to listening to it more closely.

timellison, Saturday, 30 May 2026 04:55 (one week ago)

It has its moments. Other than the singles and maybe one or two other songs on here I’m not hearing the supposed “nostalgic overview" talked up in the press. A mellotron line here and maybe a flute there? Pretty unexciting. Though I really like the opening track. Should’ve stayed in that lane (ahem!).

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 May 2026 11:10 (one week ago)

what was meant by 'nostalgia' is that paul went to see the oasis reunion tour and thought it was great

ufo, Saturday, 30 May 2026 13:17 (one week ago)

Lots of online discussion still of Paul's ability in 2026 to hit or not high notes, and sounding more ragged vocally. Plus how he deals with is current voice on the new album

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2026/05/30/after-hearing-paul-mccartney-snl-i-thought-he-should-hang-it-up-i-was-wrong/

from Geoff Edgars article in Washington Post-

Two things changed my mind. First, my wife told me I was being a jerk and asked why I thought it was my job to tell one of the greatest artists of our time to take a seat. Second, I waited a few days before opening my keyboard.

I realized, after SNL, that it feels like we’re being asked to choose sides when it comes to McCartney and other musical icons who aren’t turning 64 but closing in on 94. Do we want to hear a diminished legend or force one into retirement?

...
As for live-on-stage Paul? McCartney, who has toured frequently in the last decade, doesn’t currently have any dates announced. I now hope he decides to head out after all.

Because that’s what our heroes should be doing. Aging naturally and without fear. Brian Wilson, the Beach Boys leader, returned to the stage in his late 50s and mesmerized the audience, as his younger and impeccable band offered musical and emotional support. Joni Mitchell, damaged but still a masterful interpreter, has used a few, select gigs to deliver her perfect phrasing through a deeper voice — more Nina Simone than “Blue”-era Joni.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 May 2026 17:44 (one week ago)

Is this the state of music criticism at the Jeff Bezos Times?

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Saturday, 30 May 2026 18:35 (one week ago)

Should've worked in an angle about how lower taxes might make him less reluctant to tour

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Saturday, 30 May 2026 18:36 (one week ago)

exactly

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 May 2026 19:10 (one week ago)

It's more libertarian to not force him into retirement

timellison, Saturday, 30 May 2026 23:13 (one week ago)

"Ripples in a Pond" is an absolutely lovely song.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2026 23:20 (one week ago)

Struck again by what a run of great albums he’s had this century.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 31 May 2026 03:50 (six days ago)

It's tempting to say mortality is the driving force, whether it's working through grief or facing his own mortality, and except for Tug of War coming in the wake of Lennon's death, I can't think of many examples where it's been the subject of his work prior to Flaming Pie.

birdistheword, Sunday, 31 May 2026 04:14 (six days ago)

(Granted Flaming Pie and Run Devil Run are from the previous century, but I think of them as being apiece with the later stuff.)

birdistheword, Sunday, 31 May 2026 04:15 (six days ago)


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