Women in electronic/dance music

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re Bork, i really dont know where the letters sometimes disappear to in my posts

stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

interesting about Rollo and Sister Bliss too - i'd always assumed he did more of the music-making...he is of course a talented producer in his own right (Dusted, the old Rollo club tracks credited to just him) as is Sister Bliss

stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Anna, I am insulted

I didn't mean it as an absolute statement, honest. Just, generally ... anyway, you're only 25, don't sell your youth down the river young man.

NABISCO IS A SAD AND ISOLATED LOOSER!

*runs and hides, ha!*

Anna (Anna), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know what everybody in the Rollo/Sister Bliss team does, but the engineering and mixing of most if not all their tracks are credited to either Goetz or Grippa (whoever these may be).

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

...boys are often brought up to believe...

The nature vs nurture debate starts now!

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:19 (twenty-three years ago)

i dont think Bjork's input into how her stuff sounds is any greater than Beyonce's actually - sure they both know music and they know pop or whatever but they're not producers in the musician sense right? neither is Madonna, thats why she and Bork especially always recruit someone like William Orbit, Mirwais, Graham Massey or Matmos to create the music

eh?

blueski, she co-produced post, homogenic and did most of vespertine herself. talk to ANY of her collaborators and they'll tell you she has extremely well-defined ideas as to how she wants the music to sound; if anything, her weakness is as an engineer, NOT as a producer/musician.

an across-the-board first impression consensus from collaborators past and present is that she's much more involved (ie. in terms of sheer detail -> the 'musician' bits) than they ever would have expected. (i mean, bear in mind she attended the reykjavik music conservatory from 5 to 15 and has been recording since 11.) so to dimiss her perceived input as on par with beyonce or madonna (onetime professional bjork piggybacker!) is a tad dismissive, and probably reflective of the bjork as kook mentality that she's admittedly brought upon herself...

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Barbara Morgenstern!!! (on Monika records)

jel -- (jel), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Bjork does have a significant input (>75%?) into the music on her albums, she's just happy to share credit and loves collaborating.

All her albums sound like her and it's not just because of the voice. I've seen her on TV programming a laptop and using and SU10. I think she can probably writes scores to an extent.

No ones mentioned Nic Endo so far who does (or did) a lot of stuff for ATR, live she must be making 50% of the sound. I've seen Alec Empire with and without her and without her he was rubbish. Her replacement on that occasion was a man. Nic also has sole albums.

Le Tigre are fantastic!!!

How much does Missy Elliot do? She's usually credited with co-production I think, but it seems easy to assume she does the words and Timbaland the bleeps. Does she make the music too?

meirion john lewis (mei), Friday, 22 November 2002 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I forget the woman's name from People Like Us, but that's one, right?

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I forget the woman's name from People Like Us, but that's one, right?

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Great, no-one has mentioned Ellen Allien, so now I can. :) Stadtkind = a wonderful album.

Omar, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

One of the members of Dat Politics is a woman - when I saw them live two years ago their policy on banging things seemed equal opportunity. Don't know about production, though.

locus solus, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Solex, Nicola Kuperus from Adult, Margaret Fiedler from Laika, DJ Rap/Charissa Saverio (Spiritual Aura stills sounds fabulous), Kemistry + Storm (Kemi Olusanya RIP)

stevo (stevo), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.pinknoises.com/
There might be relevant info here.

Honda (Honda), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

'Spiritual Aura' is credited to Engineers Without Fears so i dont think Severio was solely responsible - great track tho. i figure she had Beyonce-style production involvement on her later stuff too (Bad Girl. Good To Be Alive etc.)

stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

noone's mentioned Printed Circuit yet have they?
okay-ish feature in ctcl by one of them from electralene about 'electrrrronica'.
my friend irene has written/is writing a fanzine 'women in electronica'.
the first: Delia Derbyshire - dr. who soundtrack and other stuff

s magnet, Friday, 22 November 2002 21:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Andrea Parker, if memory serves me, is sort of electro, lots of rilly deep bass, in an alternately spacious/claustrophobic downtempo environment, though her DJ Kicks is electro-heavy. On her album proper, she even sings, and pretty well too. It's a little samey, though.

Leee (Leee), Friday, 22 November 2002 22:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Ive only got into hardhouse stuff but women seem to be fairly common at most residencies. As for producers I think Lisa Pinup does some of her own stuff, theres a few on this agencies books, dunno really much about that side of things.


http://www.sparkleproductions.freeserve.co.uk/djshardhousetechno.html


Siegbran or Steve have you ever seen Phil Reyonds play a set? What do you think of him?

Kiwi, Saturday, 23 November 2002 00:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Keven Blechdom &
Blevin Bectum

dsico (dsico), Saturday, 23 November 2002 06:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Maryanne Amacher.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 23 November 2002 08:31 (twenty-three years ago)

the late, great and sadly missed lee newman from > 1

vicky from people like us

and.... the godmother of the whole shebang - bebe barron!

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2002 08:35 (twenty-three years ago)

That dude from the Chemical Brothers.....

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan I heard they cut the hair and it's actually a man although its still hard to tell behind the tinted specs.

Honda (Honda), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:26 (twenty-three years ago)

And the other guy has yet to comment on anything ever.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:36 (twenty-three years ago)

(it would be horrible if they somehow found this thread and thought I wasn't a massive fan)

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:36 (twenty-three years ago)

YO FAGGOT ASS HATIN MOFO FUCK YALL SHIT FAGGOT ASS WIGGA BITCH ILL FUCKING ILL FUCKING SEW YA EARS UP AND PLAY YOU BROTHERS GONNA WORK IT OUT AT THE WRONG SPEED FOR 3 DAYS WIGGA AND KEEP FEEDING YOU AND FEEDING YOU TILL BLAAAAM! MOFO HATIN ASS MOFFAFUCKER

Tom & Ed, Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Fernanda Porto: tho she got the fame from the DJ Patife remix, i think she produced her album all by herself

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 23 November 2002 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Anjali. Great stuff.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 23 November 2002 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

the printed circuit record is brilliant fun.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 23 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd read somewhere that Lali Puna was actually mainly Valerie Trebejhar's gig, with the others initially brought in as a supporting cast -- but some of the related projects without Valerie sound enough like Lali Puna that this may not be entirely the case.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 23 November 2002 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Courtesy of the Xcellent Cynthis Webster, here's a big list ov linx

N0RM4N PH4Y, Saturday, 23 November 2002 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

ryo co

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:10 (twenty-three years ago)

sachiko m?

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

cid & eric

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:34 (twenty-three years ago)

the printed circuit record is brilliant fun.

indeed! plus claire is completely gorgeous too, which doesn't change my enjoyment of the music, but i just thought i'd mention.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 25 November 2002 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

We've finally learned our lesson from all those "Sleater-Kinney are hot" threads.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 25 November 2002 00:28 (twenty-three years ago)

no-one's mentioned pauline oliveros yet? i don't like her "deep listening stuff so much but the early electronic stuff is some of my all time favourite flash gordon retrofuturist forbidden planet type stuff - alien bog is absolutely beautiful. and delia derbyshire - fantastic!

bob snoom, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

who's kelly hand?

kelli (i spelled it wrong before) hand is a detroit techno producer, records as k. hand, you might know "ready for the darkness" or "global warning", runs acacia records.

michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Aki Tsuyuko, both on her own & collaborating w/ Nobukazu Takemura.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 14:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Anna, you suck.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 04:42 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
you wrote:

>Squarepusher doing practically EVERYTHING himself for >example, and i think it would be a really cool thing to see >someone that just so happens to be a woman working along >the same lines, making similar music

of course there are many women who do this. OF COURSE.

I do, Kevin Blechdom does, Peope Like Us does, there's plenty.

and of course when and if the world becomes a more enlightened place, there will be more women who do so. dude.

no one's opinion means anything!!!

Blevin Blectum

blevin blectum, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

after Blevin's righteous blast, to drop just another name seems almost a minor matter
but then again i think this is one very fine musician who hasn't been mentioned on this thread -- Ikue Mori

t\'\'t (t''t), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 10:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Anna, you suck.

Um?

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 10:16 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
Cobra Killer, who I notice T. Moore is digging in the latest Wire, gd for him, their first alb on DHR IS The Slits goes Techno!

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:49 (twenty-three years ago)

good call Blevin but most of the women mentioned on this thread i've only ever heard of on this thread (i know i should get out more) so you can see why i asked the question - maybe its just the fact that these women dont seem to be getting their deserved props, assuming they do deserve them (for the quality of the music, not just cos they're women trying to make it and be recognised as good producers and musicians rather than JUST performers, singers and songwriters)

stevem (blueski), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Does the priveleging of the solitary author (using Squarepusher as an example) lend itself to a phallocentric concept of Artists? Maybe not just focused on men, but the emphasis also has a distinctly American flavor of celebrating the individual, as opposed to collaboration.

Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 08:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Gillian Gilbert?

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Antye Greie-Fuchs (aka AGF aka one half of Laub)

I highly recommend many of the names already mentioned too.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:08 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
BARBARA MORGENSTERN! (Maybe the Blechtums). (And the Mum lassies). And Lali Puna. I'll get back to exactly why Barbara Morgernstern.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 29 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

i have just realised that as well as kevin, blevin is frickin genius!

bob snoooozem, Saturday, 29 March 2003 21:27 (twenty-three years ago)

whoa, this thread started back when blevin and jon l were in a band together ...

sarahell, Sunday, 1 March 2020 18:00 (six years ago)

and when i used to book their band on the reg

sarahell, Sunday, 1 March 2020 18:01 (six years ago)

two months pass...

what the heck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Padberg

Milton Parker, Thursday, 21 May 2020 06:01 (six years ago)

Fortran!

sarahell, Thursday, 21 May 2020 18:26 (six years ago)

Fortran Hero

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:29 (six years ago)

so rad

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:35 (six years ago)

remember last year when nina kraviz was racist and k. hand went to bat for her on twitter? that was weird

crystal-brained yogahead (map), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:01 (six years ago)

seven months pass...
one year passes...

New BBC Culture article on women composers: Oksana Linde and the forgotten pioneers of electronic music

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 30 May 2022 09:06 (four years ago)

waiting for another Karen Gwyer, hoped this thread bump would be that!

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 30 May 2022 09:08 (four years ago)

also my god that aya record im hole is outstanding

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 30 May 2022 09:09 (four years ago)

[MOD NOTE: TRANSPHOBIC BULLSHIT REDACTED]

xzanfar, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 00:54 (four years ago)

what the fuck are you talking about, get the fuck out of here.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 02:24 (four years ago)

Uh. Yeah can we not be transphobic please.

brisk money (lukas), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 05:31 (four years ago)

if that fucking dickhead isn't perma-banned very fast I'm going to be having words

calzino, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 05:52 (four years ago)

"Barging into this thread only to say that I wish both Solex and Mira Calix would release more albums (yes I know they're still working, but still)"

Alas Mira Calix passed away in March. I remember liking Skimskitta but I always wondered if she was a pseudonym for someone else on Warp. It turns out that she helped keep the label running in the background, which is why she had such a spartan discography. I was going to say "she was the only woman on the Artificial Intelligence compilations" but she wasn't actually on the Artificial Intelligence compilations. She was on Blech II.

Radio 3 did a tribute, now sadly unavailable:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015v5h

Just for fun I remember going through the roster of Mille Plateaux Records and City Centre Offices and and Fax Records and counting all of the female musicians and "not British, German, or Japanese" musicians, and giving up because there weren't any. Which is probably true of any cross-section of heavy metal labels, but this music was supposed to be progressive.

It struck me as a kid that literally all of the acts on the European Warp equivalents* etc were male twentysomething graphic design students who spent their lives flying between Tokyo, Berlin, and London, which I suppose was a kind of wish-fulfillment fantasy if you were a teenager back then but ye gods a lot of that music is generic and indistinguishable from itself nowadays.

* Warp itself has working-class people, so it doesn't quite count.

Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 19:59 (four years ago)

two months pass...

Sky Arts showed Sisters With Transistors on friday which was a good watch, all the early female pioneers in original footage. (everything else they showed is being repeated throughout the week but i can't see a repeat for this before friday)

couple of new names to me: clara rockmore and maryanne amacher, the latter of who wins for noticeably scaring thurston moore.

koogs, Monday, 15 August 2022 13:44 (three years ago)

(although both are mentioned upthead)

koogs, Monday, 15 August 2022 13:46 (three years ago)

I’m sure I used to “play out” Amacher’s ear dances at our old Greenwich gatherings, koogs. Good way to clear the room at the end of the evening.

Michael Jones, Monday, 15 August 2022 13:47 (three years ago)

oh and there is a new Karen Gwyer! It’s under Karen Lee Gwyer on Bandcamp. Solid albeit nothing startling.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 15 August 2022 13:56 (three years ago)

I feckin' missed most of it because I was watching Match of the Day!

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Monday, 15 August 2022 17:58 (three years ago)

had a look in programme guide and listings for a repeat of the Sisters with Transistors and can't see one 8(

if you can remember the old Greenwich gatherings you weren't really there. or you left early to get back to the other side of london before the rave music started.

koogs, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 12:42 (three years ago)

one month passes...

https://archive.org/details/delia.-derbyshire.-the.-myths.and.the.-legendary.-tapes

This is the only way I can find to watch the Cosey Fanni Tutti Delia Derbyshire movie since it left the BBC site

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 29 September 2022 07:23 (three years ago)

FWIW, there's a 1080p encoding easily found on the dark net.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:15 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Sisters with Transistors is repeated tonight on sky arts, Freeview ch11, 00:40

koogs, Saturday, 14 October 2023 11:59 (two years ago)

should be earlier imo but they are busy with Floyd, byrds, Stevie Nick's and numnah from 18:00

koogs, Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:01 (two years ago)

(numan)

koogs, Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:01 (two years ago)


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