Is anyone anticipating the new Diddy album?

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it sold pretty well!

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:54 (fifteen years ago)

i mean, that's the crux of my Linkin Park review. I think Diddy fits in a mold of artists (Portishead, Flaming Lips, Chemical Brothers, LP) who are making weird, wild albums in their old age because there's no real reason to sell albums anymore

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:55 (fifteen years ago)

on major labels

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:55 (fifteen years ago)

i mean for an album that went thru the very typical rap/r&b timeline of at least two failed singles and a year-plus long delay, it has actually spawned two legit hits & sold pretty well all told

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

did it? that's good!

i doubt diddy cares much for critical acclaim but i can't help but compare this to dark twisted fantasy and get pissed off.

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

it would be nice if diddy used bad boy for that purpose as well, but that's probably asking for too much

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

i mean, that's the crux of my Linkin Park review. I think Diddy fits in a mold of artists (Portishead, Flaming Lips, Chemical Brothers, LP) who are making weird, wild albums in their old age because there's no real reason to sell albums anymore

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:55 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is an interesting premise btw

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it actually outperformed industry expectations by like 30k iirc

are the two singles doing better than the singles off of MBDTF?

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:57 (fifteen years ago)

it depends on how you measure -- "hello good morning" and to a lesser extent "coming home" have had longer shelf lives as singles, but the raw peak number isn't as high as anything off of MBDTF, but that's just artificial itunes inflation for kanye

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:58 (fifteen years ago)

he did 100k first week which imo is a good number for anyone right now outside of like 5 artists

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:59 (fifteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure diddy bought all of those copies of LTTP guys lol

it was projected to sell like 60K by Hits Daily Double and then MIRACULOUSLY it seels like 110K - HDD is never that far off...

The Brainwasher, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:00 (fifteen years ago)

im not sure i rlly agree w/ that premise. the chemical bros lp doesnt feel that out of line for them, its closer to the sound of their earlier stuff. & this record had hits, sold well & puffy's always been ambitious & something of a trendsetter

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:00 (fifteen years ago)

xxxps to whiney's post

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:00 (fifteen years ago)

it was projected to sell like 60K by Hits Daily Double and then MIRACULOUSLY it seels like 110K - HDD is never that far off...

― The Brainwasher, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

this could be

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not familiar enough w/ diddy's ouevre really. all I remember about him from the 90s was the jimmy page collab lol

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

he should've sent everyone itt one of those 40k copies tho tbh

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

xp neither am i--but i can't believe that he was making music this good in the bad boy heyday when he was massive and everybody paid attention to him.

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not familiar enough w/ diddy's ouevre really. all I remember about him from the 90s was the jimmy page collab lol

― dayo, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

his 1st record is classic -- hes a weird figure because hes accused of both exploiting ppl for his gain (true) but is undoubtedly responsible for putting them on, too -- hes linked to the careers of two of the 90s most significant artists in Mary J & Biggie .... he basically designed biggie's second record

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:03 (fifteen years ago)

xp well it's not necessarily about making good music as it is about making ambitious music, to keep it within the confines of deej's point

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:03 (fifteen years ago)

deej,

just because something is ambitious and weird and different doesn't mean it still can't sell well. Linkin Park record debuted at #1 and sold gangbusters and is a hueg departure for them. Chem Bros. def had some some of the same psych textures as their early stuff but absolutely none of the funk. It was like a glossy Neu! record

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

and yeah see I would love to read more hands on stuff about diddy's behind the scenes machinations like in life after death xxp

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

i mean the perfect example w/ his debut album ... its like the major-label version of a late 90s mixtape. on the one hand, 'benjamins' was a hit at the tunnel & he excised a verse to get his own verse (written by biggie i assume) onto it, then he rereleases it & it become a national smash ...

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:05 (fifteen years ago)

also, yall

battle of the egomaniacal, pan-genre overproducers w/ albums of shimmering genius that i want to drown in '10

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:05 (fifteen years ago)

deej, stop saying tunnel, ffs

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:05 (fifteen years ago)

dayo: http://www.xxlmag.com/magazine/2006/03/the-making-of-life-after-death-many-men/

The Brainwasher, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:06 (fifteen years ago)

thanks BW!

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:06 (fifteen years ago)

i wish someone would write a 33 1/3 on 'life after death'

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:07 (fifteen years ago)

also what is the general consensus on the role diddy played in biggie's death? it kinda makes me uncomfortable when he goes "you know you woulda took the bullet if you saw it" in 'coming home'

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:07 (fifteen years ago)

he had a great ear for talent & a symbiotic relationship with it ... he was behind g-dep, black rob, shyne. they all ended up getting churned out -- g-dep's a drug addict & in prison for murder, Shyne spent years behind bars, black rob too. of course, its not diddy's fault black rob is supposedly a klepto or w/e, and its not his fault g-dep cant get off the pcp. the shyne thing, thats kinda fucked

but he put money into those guys & they released some classic rap songs ... how would things have been w/out him, who knows. Were the Lox helped or hurt by ditching bad boy? idk about that either

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:07 (fifteen years ago)

deej, stop saying tunnel, ffs

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what?

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:08 (fifteen years ago)

it was totally relevant, wtf is your deal

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:08 (fifteen years ago)

you say tunnel on ILX like Homer says gummi

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

i dont even know what that means

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

you say stupid shit on ilx like homer says doh

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

deej is a total tunnelhead

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

me too, but fuck

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

lol i was making a joke on your behalf tbh

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:10 (fifteen years ago)

but "fuck" what

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:10 (fifteen years ago)

lookin at shyne's wiki - is the deal that he took the fall for diddy or what

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:10 (fifteen years ago)

yeah thats basically the assumption i think

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:11 (fifteen years ago)

supposedly

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:11 (fifteen years ago)

tunnelly enough

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:11 (fifteen years ago)

i mean, basically he was good at bringing different talents together and throwing money around like bruce wayne. he lived a calculated millionaire street dream lifestyle & used it to connect a lot of different artists w/ opportunities, a lot of times to further his own career, but in a way that obv worked well for some of them too. and some of their lives turned out tremendously shitty, and he fucked them over (there are a lot of artists who claim this). but u gotta give him this, he has vision

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:13 (fifteen years ago)

he should've sent everyone itt one of those 40k copies tho tbh

― hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, January 21, 2011 12:01 AM (8 minutes ago)

lol this isn't exactly e red here

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:13 (fifteen years ago)

tunnelly enough

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:11 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

youre reaching dude. the only meme this could inspire is that u are really bad at busting ppls balls

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:14 (fifteen years ago)

heh, are there any record labels known for NOT fucking their talent over

dayo, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:14 (fifteen years ago)

keep responding to me, deej, since i'm so bad at busting balls

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 January 2011 05:15 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK22EvFBlQ8

^^^ i cant imagine biggie putting this track together -- obv he wrote all the lyrics, but the epic overreach of it is trademark puffy, even tho he didnt do the beat, didnt write the raps, inserted himself w/ someone else's creative work ,etc. doesnt matter -- rtc called it his 'curatorial flair' -- to me this new album is amazing & great but its also like a career capstone. any rap fan who was in h.s. like me & al were in the late 90s were banging the shit out of puffy-affiliated ish by the time big died

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

keep responding to me, deej, since i'm so bad at busting balls

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im more upset at you wasting space dude, stfu

*gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:18 (fifteen years ago)

he also invented the remix

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:18 (fifteen years ago)


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