Is anyone anticipating the new Diddy album?

i feel like we should have a 'mordy's metal club'-style thread where we make j0rdan listen to records from before say 1997

start with harlem world & move backwards

Lol honestly I would participate in that

i kinda do want to hear jordan's reactions to hearing 'tears' for the first time tbh

itd have to be like, each ilxor curating the thread recommends one song per day, j0rdan reviews

maybe just make it a tumblr or something idk

I listened to it a few days ago just to see if I had heard it but didn't recognize it by name

Lol I'm not making a tumblr

haha ok j0rdan before i start a thread how should we do this -- you listen to one album a week as selected by a rotating panel of volunteers, plus any individual song anyone in the thread wants to suggest?

i feel like w/ albums it'll be easier to get off track & we should focus on singles

Ha, alright that sounds cool

Maybe an album every two weeks

i will be really tempted whenever i have a kid to raise my firstborn as if s/he lives in an alternate universe where there is no such thing as pop music or network tv or radio, just like, sun ra records constantly every day and a tv screen that only ever plays documentaries abt gregorian monks. kind of of cruel but i feel like they would have a unique way of processing aspects of life when they grow up, & will probably make some impt contributions to social theory

pretty sure there'll be tons of babies of the post-iPod world who grow up with a hermetically sealed musical worldview of their parents' favorite indie/niche music and nothing else.

I don't think what people actually heard growing up has much of an impact on the way they think about music one way or another. What is much more important IMO is your early interactions with friends etc and the way music fits into that. It's the role of music rather than the music itself that is important.

my favourite smokey robinson song is cruising but thats cos i sing it to myself when im uh

you sing it to yourself when you sing it to yourself

yes

xp tim - maybe. idk some of the best & earliest memories of my life are singing along to jams in the car w my parents, feel like that has affected me & my tastes in some profound way. but my dad has really good taste in music & i never really stopped thinking that, even during the times when i had the worst taste in music. so i guess that obscures things. first time i heard sex pistols & public enemy was browsing his cd shelf. my dad's ultimate most played album/comp is probably grosse point blank soundtrack & i consider that aesthetic an integral part of my musical dna

my dad owns two tapes

what are they

im not sure but they were in the same cupboard i found the magazines in

frampton comes alive and something by gary puckett and the union gap prob

the magazines eh

was "frampton comes alive" a tape or a magazine.

its rumours and born in the usa. my mam owns about seven records by james last and he is the only person she ever saw in concert up until she took my little sister to a westlife concert a few years ago.

i dont think i would have really cared abt music if my family were into it. it was like my *thing* i guess

other than the Beatles, which my dad played in droves, the first tape he made for me of something that wasn't classical music was Paul McCartney's "All the Best" when I was like 7 or 8. and then "Chicago 17" for some reason.

I don't think it's necessarily important to have a knowledge of the oldies if you're just listening to music for fun, but if you want to shot music crit like lex and j0rdan do then yeah I think it is valuable and at least lets you understand reference points others in the discourse are making

Not an ideal analogy, but I couldn't read contemporary literature without enjoying two hundred years of novels. In addition, I've never cared much about "relating" to what I read.

yeah reading 19th century fiction is definitely key to understanding what the modernists were about, and then the post modernists obv

I used to be pretty much anti-tradition but if you want to be involved in the discourse in any way at all it's valuable to at least have a general knowledge of the past. it's funny too cause from what ir j0rd and lex's reviews is that they do reference stuff from the past, so it's not like they don't understand the value of such references

I'll cop to not having heard tears of a clown til I got a motown boxset about two years ago. btw if you told me I could only listen to motown songs for the rest of my life, I would not be displeased.

motown was my shit when I was a kid. My dad's not a huge motown fan but my mom loves it and I just managed to gravitate towards it, then I'd take my dad's Time/Life "best of" cds for specific years and find the songs that were soul/Motown.

still love it too. co-signed what dayo said above.

also loved smokey in the miracles..."ooooooooooooooh baby babyyyyyyyyyyy"

anyways i finally listened to the whole thing today, loud.

it's just a strikingly beautiful album a lot of the time--the engineers and mixers who worked on this should be inducted into a hall of fame somewhere.

two fav things--the mixing between the drums and the synths on ass on the floor--it's just so perfect and has a ton of depth when you crank it. also the a capella coda on shades is omg gorgeous.

i'm kind of so confused and sad about this album in a sense; like of the 18-track deluxe edition there are prob 14 songs that are totally good songs, would listen to multiple times, etc. etc. and as an album it is fantastically sequenced and maintains variety and diversity while still tying in to a strong central aesthetic.

and then i think of the guy who "made" it. and then i think of its p&j results, and how there was literally one copy in my record store less than two weeks after it came out. and i'm like damn the world is a strange place.

i think diddy is gonna be ok

i'm sure he is, but goddamn this deserved a better fate

yeah idk what j0rd is up about when he says coming home is horribly mixed, it sounds fine & even great on all my devices

I kinda like that this album is gonna pass by without too much fanfare - feel like at this point in his career diddy is making 'art for arts sake' and is not so concerned w/ critical acclaim

it sold pretty well!

i mean, that's the crux of my Linkin Park review. I think Diddy fits in a mold of artists (Portishead, Flaming Lips, Chemical Brothers, LP) who are making weird, wild albums in their old age because there's no real reason to sell albums anymore

on major labels

i mean for an album that went thru the very typical rap/r&b timeline of at least two failed singles and a year-plus long delay, it has actually spawned two legit hits & sold pretty well all told

did it? that's good!

i doubt diddy cares much for critical acclaim but i can't help but compare this to dark twisted fantasy and get pissed off.

it would be nice if diddy used bad boy for that purpose as well, but that's probably asking for too much

i mean, that's the crux of my Linkin Park review. I think Diddy fits in a mold of artists (Portishead, Flaming Lips, Chemical Brothers, LP) who are making weird, wild albums in their old age because there's no real reason to sell albums anymore

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:55 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is an interesting premise btw

yeah it actually outperformed industry expectations by like 30k iirc

are the two singles doing better than the singles off of MBDTF?

it depends on how you measure -- "hello good morning" and to a lesser extent "coming home" have had longer shelf lives as singles, but the raw peak number isn't as high as anything off of MBDTF, but that's just artificial itunes inflation for kanye

he did 100k first week which imo is a good number for anyone right now outside of like 5 artists