Has Led Zeppelin Dated Poorly?

"get people [in the UK] who are pretty into music by any country's standards who literally haven't heard of Rush or CCR."

Depressing.

-- Bill Magill, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:36 (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Wouldn't it be boring if we were all the same?

otoh no one in the US knows who Cliff Richard is

Not depressing.

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no one in the US knows who Cliff Richard is

It's so funny how we don't rock anymore.

*without reading any of this thread -

I guess it sounds "dated" inasmuch as it's readily apparent that it didn't come out last week, but I don't think it has aged poorly at all. By contrast, I heard Bon Jovi's "Bad Medicine" on the radio today for the first time in probably a decade and a half and it sounded kinda jarring (bad drums, poorly mixed vocals). Then again, maybe I'm not quite ready for the inevitable bon jovi reappraisal.

of course, pitting zep against bongiovi risks making this a Classic Rock vs. Hair Metal thing, or in a broader sense the emergence of digital vs. tried-n-true analog (r*ckism ahoy). This isn't my intention at all. It's not that the tools are inherently bad, just the way they are employed in this instance.

also, Zep rules.

I think the question should really be, who is over 30 and has the balls to wear a Led Zeppelin t-shirt in public?

people that rock

don't let shakey get you guys upset, he is the same dude who posted this:

I guess the Byrds are more "important", but the Beau Brummels have more songs that I actually like and listen to (Deep Water, Turn Around), so they win.
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:36 (3 years ago) Link

so just let it go, we can't all be friends, some differences are irreconcilable, etc.

I'll take ... Eric Carmen ... over Michael Jackson or Elvis any fucking day of the week.

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 February 2008 20:58 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Dan I was thinking about Dylan even as I posted that! Which makes me think that actually he could be the exception that proves the rule.

- I love watching MJ haters dig their own graves.

- The almost total lack of anything interesting being said here about LZ is interesting.

In the interview, Keith Richards also belittled Led Zeppelin's December one-off reunion gig, telling Uncut: "They had one? Well, well done Jimmy and Robert ... Stairway To Heaven don't make it for me, baby."

The almost total lack of anything interesting being said here about LZ is interesting.

That's because the hivemind/CW surrounding LZ is that they rock balls. No one really has more to say about them than that.

led zep are so awes.

Keef being disingenuous, blaming it on "addled."

Plays w/ Sheryl Crow, appears in Johnny Depp blockbuster, is OBLIVIOUS to biggest rock show in twenty years covered up the wazoo by a magazine sharing his band's name.

Doesn't know his bassist opened for them, right.

Led Zeppelin: still punker than the Stones.

why ?

Classic, but they have this strange power to reduce highly intelligent people to just grunting and going "Yeah! Fucking sick dude!" a lot.

-- Hurting 2, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:03 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

Short answer: "Communication Breakdown"

Really though, despite the riches they were in-house and nearly DIY if such a thing is possible on that scale. No singles, no cooperation with the press, more or less uncooperative with the industry & aggressively unfashionable.

Also, Plant said their 9th studio album was going to sound like The Damned.

And did it?

The thing I like about them is that a lot of their songs sound rough and dirty but contain a bunch of really neat musical ideas/tricks (weird meter switching, all kinds of polyrhythms, unexpected riffs built off of familiar chord progressions).

They only made eight.

ok. by the way, I don't think the stones were punk at all. except keith (who set the attitude for most of the punks to follow !)

The only thing that sounds particularly dated to me about Zep is some of Plant's vocals, especially the "ooh b-b-baby give it to me" bits, but lots of classic Zep didn't include that in the first place.

Led Zeppelin: still punker than the Stones.

I'd suggest listening to Some Girls and having a good re-think.

actually, saying the exact contrary of what I just said, the stones were much punker than most bands (including LZ) since I don't think there's been a more cynical band on earth !

it all depends on what you call punk, eventually...

They only made eight.

-- Hadrian VIII, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:33 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Including "Coda"? (like I care)

Yeah.... Queen were supposedly going to make an album that sounded like the Dammned as well. Only, they actually made that one (NOTW) with "Sheer heart attack" the song. I.e. no.

Coda wasn't a studio album of new material, was it?

I'd say something interesting but I feel like I've said most of what I have to say on many other LZ threads and this question doesn't really inspire me to wax eloquent.

I think Coda was all outtakes.

"Wearing & Tearing" = pretty punk

"Wearing & Tearing" = pretty punk

Nah. "Wearing & Tearing" is Zep's sour grapes at Punk.

"ok. by the way, I don't think the stones were punk at all. except keith"

o hai stones career and music 1962 - 1970

I'll say it again:

"I wanna be your man" as by the Stones is about the most DERANGED sounding hit single ever!

Alex, Plant has said they weren't taking the piss, that they were energized by what they were hearing at the time & that W&T was indicative of their new direction had they kept on...

Alright, fair enough. It has been documented that Page & Plant attended the odd Damned gig. I don't deny that they appreciated Punk (Plant has gone on record saying that Big Black's Songs About Fucking is one of his all time faves), but that doesn't mean that "Wearng & Tearing" suddenly turned them into punks any more than "Sheer Heart Attack" (the song, not the album) turned Queen into punks.

The `Stones were closer to the mark, however choreographed it might've been.

the fact that often noone really can say anything interesting about lz proves why they endure...to most they just rock or are just awesome...that vague value will endear more believers than a concrete value. (xactly why we get the critical vs popular acclaim split so often)...nothing new or complicated

will always(/already) endear
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previous poast

Can a music matter if its fans don't especially want to read about it?

to click or not to click?

(i do want to do some damned writing this am)

Amount-of-stuff-written / Interstingness-of-stuff-written

In Zeppelin's case, it's about a million to one. Not my favorite band in the world, but I like 'em, and I can't think of a band that I'm less interested in reading about.

So, finally I get a Zep albums box set (it even has all the InThrough alternate sleeves, finickity bunch..)

And the first is dull, the second has good bits but all were done better by the Small Faces..

The third is getting there, the fourth has the big ones and I can appreciate it if not love it.

Houses of the Holy. Now, then. This is the one where it all works! I know it has the two tracks the zep afich love to hate, but the whole thing works!

Phys Graf I have already, and about half of it I like. It seems those tracks are the "old" ones..

Anyway, I did Presence today, it's ok I guess but I won't be returning to it..

So, I have, um, SongRemains and InThrough and Coda to go.

I dunno, it seems like a slog. Are there riches ahead?

you've been through the best, InThrough is boring, SongRemains = meh live recording, Coda I haven't heard.

Houses of the Holy is my fav, but man seeing "first is dull" and "second has good bit" makes me wanna ;_;

Their only good song is All of my Love

I think I speak for everyone when I say that

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http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/wp-content/blogs.dir/417/files/2012/04/i-ce3aadd3e91ba496c68df484bc256079-115973.jpg

*All my Love. I always mess up that title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9XSDoHSsTg

InThrough is boring

lol waht