Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Oct 2010) - hype, anticipation &c

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she gets in this phase where she only likes 1-2 songs on a new album -- first it was "mean" and "mine" -- always wanted to turn it to one of those two. but now that she's had a couple months to live w/ the album & played it in her room a bit, without feeling the need to always ask to hear her favorite 2 songs on a 15-minute car ride, she's come around to loving most everything on it. her current obsession is "sparks fly" -- luckily the subtext about t.swift wanting to hook up w/ a boy flies over her head (i think???) and she's still an innocent

xp to markers

ilxor, Friday, 14 January 2011 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

back to december is so beautiful

teledyldonix, Friday, 14 January 2011 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not sure what's going on in the video for 'back to december'. what's with the letter she stuffs in the jacket pocket? is she wishing it had been the lyrics of the song she couldn't have written unless she'd written a goodbye note in the first place that she now regrets?

i wonder if it's all going to get so convoluted that she one day in ten years time writes a song made completely of bridges. no verses, no choruses.

buy lying (whatever), Friday, 14 January 2011 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

my current fave is the last 'you shoulda known' at the end of 'dear john', where after all the prior accusations towards him she is perhaps addressing herself, flipping over the point of view and opening the song up to the possibility of regret at her own actions.

of course she may not have intended that, but it's there nonetheless.

isn't it the other way round? all the other, earlier 'shoulda known' lines are actually "i shoulda known", like she is cursing herself for falling for him; then the last one is "the girl in the dress wrote you a song / you shoulda known", as in "you shoulda known better than to dump a songwriter".

difficult listening hour, Friday, 14 January 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

so that "flipping over the point of view" definitely happens, just the other way

difficult listening hour, Friday, 14 January 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

yes i've just reread the lyrics and you're right on the sequencing. there are several 'I shoulda known' throughout and then she brings down 'the girl in the dress wrote you a song' at the end.

i think what i meant - and couldn't type it right - was that the final 'you shoulda known' is her addressing herself. it echoes the previous instances of 'i shoulda known' but she's now looking in on herself from outside. i think that's what i meant to say, rather than flipping the perspective from him to her.

fck it's late and i'm rambling but i think i've said what i mean.

buy lying (whatever), Friday, 14 January 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

so it's not 'i shoulda known' but another part of her saying to herself 'you stupid ass'

buy lying (whatever), Friday, 14 January 2011 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://blog.koda.us/2011/01/07/taylor-swift-cant-get-hired/

thank you based jättegod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

That article is pretty much the opposite of correct and i'm not saying that to defend taylor - it's hard to think of another singer where the fan base is more invested in the backstories behind the songs.

I rather suspect that the reason Rolling Stone, Glamour and Elle don't sell well when Taylor is on the cover is that the magazine-buying portion of her fanbase are buying, like, Disney Magazine with her on the cover instead.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

that article is so wrong-headed - taylor swift can get herself hired in her actual line of work more than anyone else right now!

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

i agree totally; thought it was a boneheaded piece.

thank you based jättegod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

the last chorus in "back to december"

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

♪ youuuuu go back (to the last chorus in back) to december all the time ♫

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

looking forward hugely to seeing her in concert again.

utterfilth (whatever), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

^^ i concur!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

yes please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmv26eqduSg

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 07:03 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you if you don't fuck w/ "sparks fly"

little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:24 (fifteen years ago)

havent stopped listening to sparks fly, speak now, back to dec, story of us & better than revenge since this came out

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:29 (fifteen years ago)

all i do nowadays is listen to ginuwine & the first half of this album

little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:30 (fifteen years ago)

the climax of "dear john" really feels like something that a career builds up to

little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:31 (fifteen years ago)

DROP
EVERYTHING
NOW

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:50 (fifteen years ago)

NEXT CHAPTER

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:57 (fifteen years ago)

The Strokes have already covered "Story of Us."

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:59 (fifteen years ago)

Wait what?

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:08 (fifteen years ago)

please tell me yr joking

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

http://files.sharenator.com/justkidding_demotivational_posters_Michael_Jackson-s440x352-26284.jpg

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

let's not sully a t-swift thread with mention of the str*kes, even in jest (also lest i discover any of you are actually fans of them, in which case i may kiss my teeth right out of my mouth in horror)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

fuck you if you don't fuck w/ "sparks fly"

i agree with this

i never got into "the story of us" though

"haunted" is a surprise keeper!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

C'MON C'MON DON'T LEAVE ME LIKE THIS

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

how's it a surprise? it's always been so so awesome

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

it felt a bit like a sore thumb on the first few listens - like, good and catchy but a bit jarring in album context

still not feeling "the story of us" tbh, it's that kind of song that tries ever so hard to act like it's catchy by being loud and fast but doesn't actually have any particularly good hooks - easily the worst on the album

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

I think Story of Us is a highlight and have been hoping for Story of Us to be released as a single, with video and all. The two first singles were very much in the Fearless vein, would be nice with a different sounding thing on the radio.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

has a post-"back to december" single even been announced? i thought it'd be "haunted" for some reason.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

I'd have thought "Sparks Fly" would be a single---agreed on how hot a song that is. I've been listening to Swift since the debut & "Sparks Fly" is the first song where she's overtly sexual, or at least where I can hear her that way & not feel icky about it...that "I'm even better than you imagined I would be" line, with her jump at "better", how she rushes out "imagined I would be", so beguiling.

Euler, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, sparks fly is not only about sex but about unrecommended and not all that serious-relationship-sounding sex, which was cool after all that autopilot SHE HATES SEX SHE NEVER HAS SEX SHE WANTS NOBODY EVER TO HAVE SEX "criticism".

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but it didn't actually stop that "criticism" did it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

not that that was ever based on anything as sensible as listening to taylor swift's music or indeed paying attention to anything taylor swift has said

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, sparks fly is not only about sex but about unrecommended and not all that serious-relationship-sounding sex, which was cool after all that autopilot SHE HATES SEX SHE NEVER HAS SEX SHE WANTS NOBODY EVER TO HAVE SEX "criticism".

even more interesting, perhaps, that it doesn't seem to have been written in response to the press around Fearless re: her clean and s3xless image in 2008-09-10 etc. -- there's a live recording of "Sparks Fly" going back to 2007 or so

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

Right well like Lex says, it's not like sex has ever been absent. She was in a pickup truck with a boy out in the middle of a field on her very first single. (She spends lots of time with boys in cars on those first two albums.) But yeah "Sparks Fly" is her frankest and most grown-up lust song. Plus, it rocks.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

Ok, "stuck on backroads," not out in a field. Still. I don't think they're doing Bible study.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

they're probably reading FAIRY TALES and talking about what she's going to COOK later

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ also very hot

Euler, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

Amazing show yesterday in Oslo!

abcfsk, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:02 (fifteen years ago)

gonna see her on the 30th in london, can't wait

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 March 2011 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

This show was about being professional in the best possible way. The monologues are carefully written down and repeated every show, and she's good enough at acting that you're not totally sure if she actually IS in awe at the screams and shouts from the crowd going on forever, but! She's so in control and comfortable on that stage that whenever she feels like it and does let the fuck loose, rock out, her energy and charisma makes everyone go nuts, and she knows how to work the crowd with every little smile. Also flawless vocals.

Don't expect anything from the first album, though.

abcfsk, Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

checked Setlist.fm and looks like she played more like a half to 2/3 length show? the one i saw last year was like 20 songs... would expect her to flesh out the setlist a bit more

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

maybe she's really been jamming out on stage and doing like 20 minute drum-solo versions of You Belong With Me

Mordy, Thursday, 10 March 2011 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

hah, she did that already w/ a 10-min version of "should've said no"

skip to 3:30 for drum solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJ-IE64qcM

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

Taylor Swift should not have drum solos, no matter how hard it is to change into whatever new outfit she changed into.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2011 15:50 (fifteen years ago)


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