Kanye West & Jay-Z - Watch The Throne [2011]

i like the beat better than most of MBDTF and it's a good look for lex luger i think but wow the rapping is dire. who is kanye trying to ape in the first verse?

good beat. bad rapps. lex luger is a great producer.

disappointed that GIS wouldn't help me find a picture of a toilet on a TV screen

has any artist lost it as completely and totally after being so brilliant for so long as jay?

rod stewart is the one that comes to mind

thank god this has a thread so it doesn't slip by our attention

hahaha the weird classical breakdown reminds me of the Great and Mighty Poo from Conker's Bad Fur Day lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w5neFPat1w

^^^way better song

god this sounds like one of those things where some random internet guy raps over a real beat and uploads it to napster as "NEW KANYE/JAY-Z"

the beat is not redeeming either of them. it makes everything worse. i'm sure its pretty great on it own but the whole package is insufferable

god this sounds like one of those things where some random internet guy raps over a real beat and uploads it to napster as "NEW KANYE/JAY-Z"

in fairness this is exactly what happened; it's only a coincidence that it's actually Kanye and Jay-Z

people who act like Lex Luger is a great producer are fronting harder than people who act like Jay and Kanye are still great rappers imo

lol @ Kanye trying to doubletime for practically the first time in his career, and still filling a bunch of bars with grunting "HAHHH"

the beat reminds me of some trae song i can't remember the title of

(the main beat not the tarded classical stuff)

lol @ Kanye trying to doubletime for practically the first time in his career

lol

people who act like Lex Luger is a great producer are fronting harder than people who act like Jay and Kanye are still great rappers imo

― some dude, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:56 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

some dude acting like 'like me' or 'grove st party' are flukes is fronting harder that his initial reaction couldnt possibly be incorrect

You both are right to an extent -- lex proved himself to be more creative than maybe a lot of us thought, but ppl aren't trying to get "grove st party" beats from him. Everyone wants "bmf" and now we're on like the the 56th incarnation of that beat

there should be a poll -- in which year in the next 10 will people finally stop caring about new jay-z music?

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:08 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you might as well be asking when people will stop making a big deal over shitty new U2 or Paul McCartney albums i.e. never

some dude acting like 'like me' or 'grove st party' are flukes is fronting harder that his initial reaction couldnt possibly be incorrect

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:53 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the second half of this sentence went off the rails somewhere, i don't even understand it

yeah poorly worded but it makes sense if u parse it -- sayin u are in denial that your initial reaction to lex being an overrated one-dimensional producer is wrong

i gues this isn't really my biznass but if there's one thing that i really admire about al it's his ability to -- seemingly -- not hold grudges & in a way evaluate songs/albums as if previous works by the artist didn't exist

jay-z sounds hilarious on his chorus!

Man. Both Nas/Lil Jon collabs that I know of are awesome.

Anyway, the beat is awesome and al is mad, Kanye sucks, the classical bits suck, Jay is ok.

"Grand Finale" for sure

Yeah, the Nas/Lil Jon songs are fantastic. "Grand Finale" is really good too.

ok i am never going to listen to this again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s53SiLUIguk

^better rapping, better classical, worse beats imo

urban appropriations of opera wld be such a better thred than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7gHULq5-Qo

doooope

this is terrible

i don't think the beat on h.a.m is good at all. it's got no knock, would sound pretty unremarkable on a mixtape. kind of imagine lex luger rolling his damn eyes @ jay z and kanye wanting to make a retarded attempt at high art & probably making 100 grand or whatever ppl get paid for jay z beats for adding an opera sample to something he had prepared for a french montana mixtape cut

I just figured the opera was Kayne's meddling.

some dude acting like 'like me' or 'grove st party' are flukes is fronting harder that his initial reaction couldnt possibly be incorrect

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:53 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the second half of this sentence went off the rails somewhere, i don't even understand it

― some dude, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:06 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah poorly worded but it makes sense if u parse it -- sayin u are in denial that your initial reaction to lex being an overrated one-dimensional producer is wrong

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:44 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

deej i am so glad u went to the mat for this incomprehensible jibber jabber never change

Don't get why you've latched on to "Grove St. Party" as a standout, maybe my least favorite song on Flockaveli.

WHAT

ok u keep bumping "bricksquad ft gudda gudda"

deej re: "Grove Street Party" is on some "milhouse is not a meme" ish

deej re: "Grove Street Party" is on some "milhouse is not a meme" ish

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its a single w/ a video and an atypical beat for lex that showed some range so made total sense to bring up in this context u tard

and sorry no one repping for this total disaster of a track gets to make pronouncements on taste for anyone

i don't think the beat on h.a.m is good at all. it's got no knock, would sound pretty unremarkable on a mixtape. kind of imagine lex luger rolling his damn eyes @ jay z and kanye wanting to make a retarded attempt at high art & probably making 100 grand or whatever ppl get paid for jay z beats for adding an opera sample to something he had prepared for a french montana mixtape cut

― flopson, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:27 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

100% otm

deej i am so glad u went to the mat for this incomprehensible jibber jabber never change

― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif its not jibber jabber hoos

al initially argued that lex was one dimensional
i think hes in denial
because its bcome evident that isnt true
& said he was fronting otherwise

Yeah I think this 'album' is gonna be terrible with like 2 or 3 ok songs and maybe 1 pretty good one.

grove st party is amazing and an easy highlight imo

hey deej

can you please post that van der beek gif again

never seen it before

yeah poorly worded but it makes sense if u parse it -- sayin u are in denial that your initial reaction to lex being an overrated one-dimensional producer is wrong

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:44 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

let's not play armchair psychologist about whose stated opinions are honest and who's living in a funhouse mirror world of denial, okay? i mean he's got some good beats that don't sound like his 2 big hits on Flockaveli, but i don't think it's too crazy to say hey let's pump the brakes on "great producer" until he has a 3rd hit or shows some serious versatility or consistency.

if u want me to say southside on the track is a better producer i agree
but i think hes established dude has skills, he produced the bulk of flockaveli which is already being considered a classic ... if thats all he ends up doing hes carved a spot for himself

yes, that's exactly what i want you to do, i want you to say that someone i've never heard of is a better producer, you read my mind

i love that deej's posting style has just devolved typing a bunch of gibberish with someone associated with Brick Squad and then getting all defensive about it

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use Wooh Da Kid even go want to do look more like?

yes, that's exactly what i want you to do, i want you to say that someone i've never heard of is a better producer, you read my mind

― men are from mars, bruno has no penis (some dude), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:34 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry i thought you still paid attention to new rap

i like how whiney's posting style is being the most insufferable person alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG_dA32oH44

so dumb that they had a big premiere for the video in LONDON

so cray

so epilay

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/431253_10150607518312137_686202136_9122475_288686073_n.jpg

babay jay-once! awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....

so dumb that they had a big premiere for the video in LONDON

i don't think they did, i think someone was trolling people but i couldn't bring myself to care to find out who or what or anything

that shit about as cray as a 12-year-old with photoshop

so dumb that they had a big premiere for the video in LONDON

― some dude, Friday, February 10, 2012 8:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

iirc kanye banned from France so that other people get a chance to buy Louis Vuitton

this is my favorite album of all time

dogg what happened to you

Question for people who know things about major label machinations...
re: this: http://pitchfork.com/news/45713-jay-z-and-kanye-west-settle-syl-johnson-lawsuit/
How could that album have ever come out with such a prominent sample uncleared? Aren't there entire legal departments that make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen, or is there a point where labels at that level go "eh - let's see what happens"?

i don't know if it makes a difference, but that was one of the songs from the G.O.O.D. Fridays series back almost a year before WTT dropped, and was only on the deluxe edition of the album. so maybe they just threw it on as a bonus track at the last minute and didn't go through the usual process with it? i agree that that's surprising, though. last month Tyga's album almost got pulled from stores because his dumb ass put an uncleared sample of Martin Luther King Jr. on the album.

god, that's so funny

careless world indeed

So are we starting a thread for the new album or what

Bought this on Amazon for $5 (luxury clearance).

This is otm:
he's much smarter than kanye... which usually wouldn't matter either which way, but w/ the type of thing they're trying to pull off here it makes a big difference

A lawyer wrote me that someone is "likely to go HAM on appeal"... I asked, What does that mean? I'm picturing Spider-Ham. He sent me a link to the "H•A•M" video.

But is he gonna go gorillas?

Better to go HAIM on appeal!

better to brougham on appeal