― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
If they're getting marketed as teenpop, that's because they're on a major label and they don't know how else to promote them.
They've been on late night shows and such. Has anyone gotten a promo copy? Could you tell what market they were leaning toward? I know the song's getting played on the radio somewhere or other, I just don't know what kind of stations.
― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
They're a group with roots in the NY scene that inspires audience stripping, dude!
― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Conveying information != repeating marketing strategy
― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd be a little more impressed if they actually claimed to be influenced by Ashlee Simpson.
― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
If anyone wants to present evidence that Morningwood is being marketed as a teenpop phenom, we can continue discussing them, otherwise we can leave them behind all happy and stuff.
This is pop music, not stem cell research. I had a question, the reasoning which led to I've gone into -- twice. The band appeared to me to be marketed as teenpop instore. Nothing more. I was curious so I asked a question this thread. Da, verstehen Sie?
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 16 January 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 January 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link
It seems to have worked - the disc came in at #6 on our weekly sales chart, 2nd highest chart debut for the week (behind Bleeding Through).
I'm listening now and... Well gosh, I think I love the band so damn much I don't much care if they're contrived or not. But I'm a sucker for female-led fuzzy-guitar power-pop bands (The Sounds are another one).
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link
I think it's odd that the Veronicas are launching in the UK with "Everything I'm Not", which I guess IS kinda halfway between "Since U Been Gone" and "My Happy Ending", but with a lot less kick than either.
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link
(And now Launch Yahoo is playing "All About Us," which is quite gorgeous. The video has the girls walking around wan and expressionless, as if they were forced to appear in a Depeche Mode video instead.)
OK, I'm watching Morningwood again, and I don't see how this doesn't dominate MTV. They're posing as Queen, then they're posing as Santana, then they're Kraftwerk, then they're Hole. And the song is more disco-wavy than I'd indicated (but DOR disco rather than British new-romantic disco).
And now Launch is playing Mariah's "All I Want for Christmas Is You"; the song achieves something I didn't think Mariah could pull off: a Ronettes-Crystals sound while Mariah still gets to be her vocal-trapeze-artist self. (I miss that Mariah. The new Mariah seems chastened and subdued in comparison.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link
And now they're playing real teenybopper pop - that is, System of a Down's "B.Y.O.B." a song I find witty and catchy with its hammy la la la-la la-la-la-la ooooooo leading into a compelling r&b-ish party break, followed by thrash spinach concerning fascist nations and sending the poor to war. "Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth." I saw this band at the Pepsi Center; I was one of the two adults accompanying a couple of 12-year-olds and a couple of 15-year-olds. I told Naomi (my ex gf, mother of two of them) that I found this song very funny, and she said, "Funny? Frank, the words are very serious." In a serious tone of voice.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Credits: Kelly Clarkson's "Addicted" written by Kelly Clarkson, Ben Moody, David Hodges; Evanescence's "Bring Me to Life" written by Amy Lee, Ben Moody, David Hodges; Moody was the guitarist in Evanescence, is the guitarist on "Addicted" and co-produced it with Hodges; "Hear Me" is written by Kelly Clarkson, Kara DioGuardi, Cliff Magness; produced by Magness who played most of the instruments; Magness produced and co-wrote the more melodramatically fraught-sounding songs on the first Avril album.
The song I hear echoed in a lot of these tracks: Stevie Nicks' "Edge of Seventeen" (not the rhythm accompaniment, but Stevie's melody and her way of singing it). And of course Lindsay Lohan covers "Edge of Seventeen" on her recent album.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 07:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Ha! So Frank, you're saying the Morningwood goyl can't sing at all 'cuz Wendy O. sure couldn't even though I liked her. It gets really obvious and desperate on her recordings after Dieter Dirks did Coup d'etat which was the Plasmatics' most metal and probaby their most likely to appeal to teens. Hey, now maybe I'd like Morningwood, although I still don't know if there's someone like Richie Stotts in the band. No one wore a nurse's uniform on the cover.
I bet you could play "Concrete Shoes" for tweeners and a some of them would like it. That song never aged.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
At one point she had points for being beaten by cops -- maybe in Scranton or Detroit -- who took exception to her being onstage with her bosoms covered only by whipped cream.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Nick H (Nick H), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
p.s.s.) I still like the Slunt album fine.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
I STRONGLY FUCKING OBJECT TO THE IDEAS IMPLIED BY THIS STATEMENT
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Which I really enjoyed. I thought they (Morningwood) were a lot more fun than Gang of Four. I was all rocked out by the time the old fellas came on stage. They were loud, fast, and catchy. I really don't get all the hate at PF and Stylus and so on.
― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I love the album, but I'm not yet sure how much of that is because its a good album, and how much is me being a contrary bugger.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Shit, I have the Karen Lawrence and 1994 reissue coming in the mail. There amps were bigger and they didn't even stick her on the cover of the first album.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 23 January 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
That practice hasn't seemed to have made it to the Pasadena chapter. You can do it in Tower at their listening stations, but Morningwood wasn't on any of them.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 23 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link
>Samantha Jo, self-titled EP, available from cdbaby.com or samanthajomartin.com: Potential teen-pop country, but for the five songs *only* potential: the voice is there, and two songs ("He's Always There," about her Dad though maybe also about Jesus who knows, and "These Days") are actually about getting up for school despite not being a morning person and checking email and stopping by McDonald's in Dad's truck and doing homework, but the production isn't there, and the songs all seem too slow to pop. But then, BAM! track six, "time for summer," she makes her hope partlow "crazy summer nights" move, or maybe her undertones "here comes the summer" move (no kidding, that's what the chorus sounds like, totally kicking and bubblicious), or her hope partlow plus undertones equals skye sweetnam move, and the talking parts have a rap flow staight out of, I dunno, "we didn't start the fire" by billy joel maybe, and the band rocks, and it makes me want to go back and listen to the rest again to see what I may have missed, and I will, just not right this second.
Looks like the summer song (along with the get up in the morning and do homework and check email one "These Days") were produced by Karl Demer in Minneapolis, whereas the other four tracks were produced by Jim Kimball in Nashville. Odd how they save the great one for the end; maybe they're afraid it would scare away Nashville record labels?
― xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link