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Which album?

― Cousin yogurt beard (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Achso has persuaded me that I definitely need to hear "Au Harem.." after all too (not that I'm sure that's what Susan's referring to).

― worst iPod case scenario (fandango), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't really have anything negative, analytical or cautious to say about Achso anymore either, it's just fantastic! :)

― worst iPod case scenario (fandango), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

sorry, i'm talkin bout Achso.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it...an EP?

― Cousin yogurt beard (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. But it's 40+ minutes. Virtually an album.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I heard his Daktari remix recently, and it's a complete headfuck, and a curiously addictive one at that.

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

It's album price!

― worst iPod case scenario (fandango), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

...and a bit more (where i got it). but easylee worth every cent.

― willem -- (willem), Friday, 24 February 2006 07:23 (twenty years ago)

i think he may be playing with you when he calls it an ep, yogurt.

― lf (lfam), Friday, 24 February 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)

the au harem was an EP, too. and most import 12"s run $10-12 apiece anyway, so why is this thread suddenly nattering abt price?

― Beta (abeta), Friday, 24 February 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

The au harem was an album, it has nine tracks.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 24 February 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)

When it first came out, I believe it was billed as a "mini-album." Even if it is 70 minutes long or something.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 24 February 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)

autechre's ep7 is 60+ minutes, without the secret track.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 February 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I just worked out what Achso had been reminding me of - Jon Hassell's Power Spot.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Yes!

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:37 (twenty years ago)

ichso's starting to frighten me.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

oh no!

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)

i seem to remember reading about a bunch of new What You Say Is More Than I Can Say remixes. i hope i didnt dream that!

― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

do you need holding again Susan?

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

last nite it wove itself perfectly into a creepy dream involving ghostly reptiles borne out of my campfire in the drizzling tropical forest. but to be honest, it kinda reminded me of the survivor set.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:49 (twenty years ago)

xpost-ha! i'm trying not to wear out my welcome. so not this time - only when completely necessary.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)

This record did have some kind of emotional journey/story attached to it (I was very influenced by the explanations of the titles upthread basically. Half an imagination) at first I thought. It's very very easy to get trans(trance!)ported away and immersed in some other place when really listening to this intently.

It certainly flows as a proper "album" experience to me also (which was why it seemed so wrong and less impressive when i accidentally listened out of sequence!)

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

it does sound really wrong (confusing) out of sequence.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

last nite it wove itself perfectly into a creepy dream involving ghostly reptiles borne out of my campfire in the drizzling tropical forest. but to be honest, it kinda reminded me of the survivor set. fewer late-night tv/marijuana sessions, susan. you've given yourself up.

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

hmm - i meant to insert a line break

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

i swear i really don't watch reality tv (but i have a sinus infection which is better than a psychotropic drug-so otm) --but i think there's actually something pretty cinematic about this stuff.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:26 (twenty years ago)

can anyone ysi me (privately) Thè au Harem d'Archiméde? i only have it on vinyl and i don't listen to it due to turntable problems -truthfully.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 01:26 (twenty years ago)

fandango i hope later tonite you stop holding adam and send this to me. thk you.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:09 (twenty years ago)

I don't have Thè (Thè?) au Harem d'Archiméde Susan!

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

(if still needed i can do it later today)

― willem -- (willem), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Susan, it's on its way. Should be there in about an hour.

― jackl (jackl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

I bought this, what, three weeks ago? and still haven't listened to it due to turntable drama. it just sits there on top of the stereo, silently taunting me.

― electrogrouse (haitch), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Finally got hold of a copy of Taka Taka a few weeks ago... and finally got round to listening to it last night. Wonderful.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)

yeah electro-thanks jack and whoever else sent it.-S

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

taka taka is wicked. wish i could actually get a real copy of it from somewhere. the guy who agreed to sell it to me just disappeared.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

The mixing of Manos Libre by Brothers' Vibe and Vainqueur is incredible.

― William Selman (William Selman), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:51 (twenty years ago)

he used the Brothers' Vibe track last Saturday. mixed it into something else, though.

― a, Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)

has anybody heard this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/635613

― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:57 (twenty years ago)

oh never mind, it's just a reissue

― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:06 (twenty years ago)

this guy was good in "fantasty island " lol

― retrogurl, Friday, 10 March 2006 05:33 (twenty years ago)

T/S: achso "EP" vs autechre circa EP7 / tortoise remixes

also, is minimal techno the new post-rock?

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:31 (twenty years ago)

also, is minimal techno the new post-rock?

what does that mean? without explaining the question, it just sounds like "is minimal techno actually a bunch of boring and pretentious shit that's tricked us into liking it?"

with that said, i sort of liked what i heard of the autechre tortoise remixes (although i only have them in memory), and i see the similarities, but i think achso has so much more to reveal. all of the tortoise remixes i heard (by anybody) always seemed flat, like they weren't holding anything back, everything laid out for you to see and not really being a very interesting scene. i always liked the original tortoise versions better.

― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:41 (twenty years ago)

hmm, i'm not really sure ... except one of the reviews of "confield" from the time (i think maybe the one in fader? is that the british lad-rock/trad-rock magazine? or maybe it was uncut) said something like "HEY GUYS! if you feel like you might be unmoved by abstract electronica, don't worry, just buy this album, it's actually postrock! yessirreeee, it even ends with this endlessly recursive sort of overload of clicks and crunches - it's a guitar squeal, DSP-style!!!!"

and i don't mean to bring this up as a sociological attack on the listenership or anything, because after awhile, i started to agree with the author. in fact, to this day, i would say "confield" is probably the last great post-rock album. pretty much every track on confield deploys one or more postrock strategies. i don't have the presence of mind to list these out, i may or may not at some time, but i really really think that EP7 and confield are more or less working in post-rock idiom and exploring post-rock structures and tricks.

now, i am just struck by the similarity in sound between recent villalobos and that era of autechre's work, and also by the similarity in mood and artwork and song title and so on between lots of late postrock and the current minimal techno crop (i guess you could even draw parallels like villalobos camp = chicago, kompakt = sigur ros, etc) and i'm just wondering if we could brainstorm on this a bit.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:10 (twenty years ago)

i don't know if sigur ros, etc includes the montreal scene, but if it does, i don't that there is an analogue in minimal techno or house right now.

i definitely agree with the villalobos - chicago comparison, though. they are using very similar strategies, and their aesthetics are also similar in sounding both improvisational and structural. i like them both for that reason.

i have to go to bed because i'm too tired to think anymore.

― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:47 (twenty years ago)

"post-dance"? :(

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I really need to go relisten to Confield now, vahid! I'd say some of the noises being employed ("instruments") sound different, but there's a lot of structural and rhythmic similarity.

Whoa -- I just went to Bleep to grab EP7 and they're selling Achso now! In 320kbps mp3s, no less. For anyone who wants a legit non-vinyl copy, this is pretty reasonable..

― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it's available at beatport now too.

― jackl (jackl), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:11 (twenty years ago)

is villalobos the new post rock?

or is minimal techno?

one does not equal the other.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

though admittedly I do get suspicious by just how often I hear ABOUT villalobos from people and how seldom I hear him! nobody who makes such weird music can be that popular!

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

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