Panda Bear- Person Pitch

dubby usually implies some sort of groove

really? sure the deep bass groove is important (and there are even parts of person pitch that have that, regardless), but what sonically distinguishes dub from say, reggae (which has the same bass groove, i guess) are all the atmospherics, the echo, reverb, ambient noises, weird sense of space, etc. all these mean dub to me more than a groove.

dubby usually implies some sort of groove

-- chaki, Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:36 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

GOOD GIRLS/CARROTS

fwiw, I dislike this album

This is a really strange record to get all baffled by. Its virtues are pretty immediate. My only complaint, really, is that it hasn't grown very well (kinda the opposite of being impenetrable).

great thread. max is right.

This album shrunk on me really fast. It sounded really great at first but didn't have much to offer me on repeated listens.

Probably because it's really sonically hollow; there's not much to go back to, nothing that reveals itself on further listens, because it's all flat. It's beautiful, but completely... surface.

But yeah, if you can't see AT ALL why other people would like this, even slightly, then you're being very... bloody minded.

People compare it to the Beach Boys, but I love the Beach Boys.

should probably just let this drop but if you can watch the Comfy in Nautica video and still say "I don't get what this has to do with the Beach Boys" then I got nothin' more for ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_gjUbvqNg

still love this album .... I'm with Tim F., this and Studio are the tops

I totally see the Beach Boys thing, but I passionately despise the Beach Boys, too.

rev if i didnt already know you were a bro your dislike of chic and the beach boy would probably make me hate you

wow that video rules!

Naw, I have nothing against Chic, I just don't get 'em. The Beach Boys DRIVE ME FUCKING INSANE.

I hate those kind of cherubic Glee Club white people voices, is what it is.

I love the Beach Boys, but Panda Bear didn't really do it for me the first couple times I heard the album. Should probably give it another go. I do like the Beach Boys homage "College" on Animal Collective's Sung Tongs.

the Beach Boys are white?! oh man...

I was shocked when I found out, too.

I sort of understand what people mean when thay say this album has "shrunk" on them - it totally hasn't for me, but it's exactly the sort of music that I would absolutely expect to. I've been surprised that I love it so much every time i put it on.

I find this album irritatingly irresolute and wallpaper-y.

let us not go down this road again.

I'm really not into the Beach Boys much at all. The early songs about having sex in cars with your girlfriend's sister are OK, and there's a smattering of decent tunes from later on, but most of it leaves me cold.

I don't even think it sounds like the Beach Boys at all, apart from maybe a few vague signifiers. They certainly never were *this* plodding and drowned in bullshit digi-verb production.

Some of the vocal workouts on this record remind me of a cross between The Missa Luba and the Beach Boys' "Cool, Cool Water."

"...bullshit digi-verb production."

-- Turangalila, Wednesday, January 2, 2008 6:00 AM (7 hours ago)

Fine, not bullshit digiverb. To quote my friend Nick, "it's more like wanna-be Warn Defever circa '94"

Bullshit Digi-Verb: That's What's Happening!

I've heard my share of bullshit digi-verb and sir I can tell you that that is not bullshit digi-verb.

I like this record. It's a bit of an over-simplification to say it sounds like Warn Defever circa '94-'96. Structurally, all those songs (most of which are quite awesome) are about juxtaposition. The Panda Bear tracks are more about blending and mixing allusion and influence--not to imply that this is somehow revolutionary or something because it's not.

I like the more Krauty aspects of the record. The way Bros ends with Amon Duul circa Psychedelic Underground riffage is what makes the track for me. Also, sampling Ananas Symphonie off Ralf and Florian on one track is a nice touch.

Yeah, I guess it's not really that gated, reverb sound from the 80s. It's more of a faux Brian Wilson vibe, but without any of the compositional components that made BW interesting.

You make it sound so exciting, though. Heh.

actually I was gonna say you make it sound like a record critic record

haha yes

a few months back, in a moment of less-than-perfect lucidity, I described this record to a friend of mine as the musical equivalent of one of those waterslides that's partially open and partially enclosed. I'm still not really sure what I meant by that, but every time I think about this record, the metaphor makes more and more sense to me.

I guess in the end, the strongest impression I take away from this album is one of extreme linearity... but somehow, that doesn't make it any less enjoyable. people who said there were no details to discover on repeat listens were right. for me, though, much of the appeal lies in the way that everything fits together. "Good Girl/Carrots" is a great example of what I'm talking about: 3 distinct sections, all more or less static. within the first 10 seconds of each, I remember exactly how it goes and know what to expect for the next 4 minutes or so. but somehow, I have trouble keeping the overall structure of the song in my head, and the way the different movements (ugh, sorry, I can't think of a less pretentious word) flow into each other never fails to excite me. the whole album feels like that to me, really; it's almost like listening to a really good DJ set, or an awesome radio station.

panda designs a hat
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2103/2233678058_f580958593_o.jpg

I bet this will be big with the "bape hoodies in union sq" crue

Also, sampling Ananas Symphonie off Ralf and Florian on one track is a nice touch.

where is that?

damn it guys why were you all talking about dance music up there, i finally bought this and it isn't like dance music at all!

All music is dance music, white boy.

Im starting to get into the second half more than the first, because they have this on vinyl @ work. It reminds me of orbital

every time i open this thread all i can think is DAMN GIRL WAY TO MAKE BOOBS UNSEXY.

yay Maryland. i totally live there. i'm glad Baltimore's hip now.

Yeah I saw that pattern and I felt a lil burst of civic pride.
(halfway through season four of the WIRE it could use a boost)

<em>To quote my friend Nick, "it's more like wanna-be Warn Defever circa '94"</em>

turangalila's friend otm. sounds like something he woulda done had he put together <em>king of sweet</em> around the time of <em>stars on esp</em>.

that hat is a bit much

http://sickmouthy.com/2013/02/23/panda-bear-person-pitch-2007/

a lost classic- this, 'laughed for a world filled with fantasy,' and 'boneless' are all better than p much anything on person pitch. but maybe i've just played it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWLQKVwCSA

I wouldn't say they're better, but they'd make a nice deluxe edition of Person Pitch if you added them in. The best one is Song For Ariel, which later became Guys Eyes on MPP. The solo version is based on a sample that sounds a lot like Dreams by Fleetwood Mac, but is actually Leave Me Be by The Zombies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIICXi18JAg

There's also this little sketch from a 2007 compilation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiFNULZEniw

For completeness, here's Laugh for a World Filled With Fantasy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7063I9L_wHw

and Boneless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJFEBunBHRY

Song for Ariel is the one I'm sad for not making it into PP.

boneless is especially awesome for being a 'remix' of a song that contains no elements, melodies, lyrics from the original at all

sweet new hour-long interview with Noah about the making of Person Pitch. this group is reissuing the record on vinyl next month http://www.vinylmeplease.com/magazine/listen-interview-panda-bear-about-person-pitch/

panda bear's new song with sonic boom is the most brian wilson-y thing in a long career full of brian wilson-y things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMNZuZe2OCY

new album is very much a person pitch throwback with its focus on loops, samples & extremely beach boys vocals

sometimes the repetition is a bit too much but it's pretty solid overall, certainly the best panda bear album since person pitch & easily one of the stronger animal collective-related albums in the past 12 years

Yeah it's a fantastic album. My favourite Anco thing in a decade or so.