Is anyone anticipating the new Diddy album?

the snl performance of "ass on the floor" was hilarious because swizz is used (rather tastefully!) on the song as a backing presence as opposed to a more uhhh oppressive presence like on some other recent songs, but he mugged so shamelessly for the camera like he had never been on tv before, which maybe he hasn't idk

the thing that i think is great about "ass on the floor" is that -- either intentionally or not -- it's sort of a meta take on a dance floor song -- like you have swizz beats saying "when you in the club get your ass on the floor" in a way that almost sounds like a dj is just dropping his vocals over another song -- likewise you have the "pon de floor" sample as if a dj is mixing songs

i dunno out of breath i guess not the right words. but it doesn't have the relaxed flow that i feel a great Swizz Beatz refrain like, say, "Swing Ya Rag," has.

i think j0rdan is otm that it almost sounds like a DJ blending vocals from a different song over the beat, which is exactly what i dislike about it.

& i like that it's a song about how love & dancing & relationships interact on the dancefloor -- i feel like it's a much more classicist & old school take on dance music as opposed to a lot of the max & luke stuff that's all over the radio

i think j0rdan is otm that it almost sounds like a DJ blending vocals from a different song over the beat, which is exactly what i dislike about it.

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

opposite day

because i have to love the chorus of that song? because everyone has to?

i mean i'm trying not to Gier it up like "this song is a bad song because it is not melodic," i'm trying to explain myself

is it time to poll this one?

sure. whoever does it should make sure they include all the bonus tracks and stuff from the deluxe version though

poll the album? or poll this specific argument

I think of "ass on the floor" as being a relationship psycho-drama set at a club, swizz's vocal loop is like the sudden reminder of where you are even while you're staring at this dude and thinking "I love you you motherfucker". It's like a show don't tell version of a Robyn song.

(before you vom I'm not saying the song is good because it's like Robyn)

a relationship psycho-drama set at a club

i like the way the whole album's a relationship psychodrama that plays out as its protagonists jetset from one backdrop to another - the most obvious club moments, "ass on the floor" and "hello good morning", are a bit like glitzy celeb PAs

mjb sounding more alive than she has in years on the "someone to love me" remix btw http://www.thefader.com/2011/01/04/mary-j-blige-f-lil-wayne-and-diddy-someone-to-love-me-mjb-naked-mix-mp3/

i think j0rdan is otm that it almost sounds like a DJ blending vocals from a different song over the beat, which is exactly what i dislike about it.

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

opposite day

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej),

Seconded, and because I agree with deej.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc0mok-QWxs

has everyone seen this !!!

the relationship/between diddy and dirty money, on record and in person, is really interesting to me. i love how they're super-polished and professional and he's just capering around like a big kid.

i really wish my mp3 of my interview with them, as well as the notes from it that didn't make the published piece, hadn't been lost in that fucking hard drive crash last year.

Are they doing the electric slide or

i know right!

the relationship/between diddy and dirty money, on record and in person, is really interesting to me. i love how they're super-polished and professional and he's just capering around like a big kid.

― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 5, 2011 4:31 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kind of reminds me of the way some female pop stars the last few years (Gwen Stefani, Fergie, etc.) tend to have like a 2 or 3-girl posse that are just kind of anonymous and voiceless, always posing or dancing behind them, except Dirty Money sing and do a lot of the vocal/emotive heavy lifting on the song

The tension b/w the two approaches is what makes "Ass on the Floor" the keeper.

the keeper? as if it's the only keeper?

for the sake of the poll, that is.

tbf the dirty mone girls are wearing like 6" stilettos

i think the first six proper tracks are an incredible run - there's so much packed in there, so many ideas, and i love the way all the voices crowd in, no one voice really being allowed to wrest control of a song

This is a flaw for me. This album isn't actually as all over the map as is being made out, I dunno, I found the whole thing kinda boring? Like whatever the reference points it's all filtered through the same glossy production aesthetic that makes it sonically kind of... anonymous? Which is weird for someone with such a larger-than-life persona.

The Grace Jones track is another example, what is the point of getting Grace Jones on a song if you're only going to make her sound like some jobbing rnb diva? Other than to go "look! It's Grace Jones! This means crazy all-over-the-place club music!"

Also I get the introspective side of Ass On The Floor but does it have to be so limp? It's let down by the sort of soggy rnb chorus that ruined the Nicki Minaj album. It's not like it's hard to put divas over dance music, but that song feels like a waste of the Pon De Floor snare for me.

Kinda wish he'd gone further down the house path on I Hate That You Love Me and Strobe Lights - by miles the two best songs, although both could do without the drippy bridges.

I don't think the nicki album is a good
point of comparison - the production moves out of the way for nicki, whereas this album is much more layered and demands to be considered holistically

Like whatever the reference points it's all filtered through the same glossy production aesthetic that makes it sonically kind of... anonymous? Which is weird for someone with such a larger-than-life persona.

weird, I kind of see this as a plus - like the whole album evokes this sort of blown-out, claustrophobic feel, where you're partying way past the point where it's fun & instead it's out of a sense of duty, or not knowing what else there is to do in life. I don't really see this as a straight 'club' album - it's an ambitious headphones album, surely. there's too many things going on at the same time and the album sort of lives in the raw wild interstices of the production.

Yeah it feels like there's so many elements to each song but for every one I like (and there are a fair few) there's one I don't. I like bits of Ass On The Floor (the vocal loop, the snare obviously) but find the whole thing weirdly offputting.

The "club" aspects of the album are heavily overstated IMO.

As in "overstated in everything I read about this album", not overstated in the music itself.

naturally i'm late saying this but there is some fantastic music on this album

lol just reading the liners now and they credited lil wayne as "wayne carter"

there's also a bunch of random as hell & hilariously named publishing companies listed for some of these songs/songwriters

incl

My Diet Starts Tomorrow, Inc
U Can't Teach Bein the Shhh
Tailored 4U Music

The "club" aspects of the album are heavily overstated IMO.

― Tim F, Thursday, January 6, 2011 12:22 PM (Yesterday)

Absolutely-- that being said, second half of this >>>>>> first half ("Yesterday" is solid considering that piece of shit Breezy is on it)

i finally got Press Play. this is really really fun.

http://www.factmag.com/2011/01/14/diddy-dirty-money-last-train-to-paris/

"Hopefully this is the record where he will get the credit he really deserves, but then everyone’s too hung up on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy aren’t they? Here’s a dark fantasy that comes blissfully hype-free."

"Your Love" not getting enough love itt

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 8:12 AM (8 hours ago)

lol dude this is the worst song on the album, come on

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"AAAAA-AAAAAHHHH WHATCHA GONNA DO" is for me one of the big euphoric moments of the album

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:41 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol nobody called me out on "Your Love" and "Shades" totally blending into one long song in my brain

lol i listened to the song after you posted that and was like "what is he talking about" and decided to let it go

ha. i do like "Your Love," but not as much as i portrayed there.

this outtake w/ luda that leaked isn't exceptional but it's an interesting production that definitely would've fit sonically on the album

http://hulkshare.com/4afyjfeduu25

ay brainwasher i know if you wanted it advertised you probably woulda done it yourself but yr new mix is fire man! hangs together really well

assumed it was a (perfect) last train homage so i put it here lol

yeah for real, i got it off this thread - DJs post your mixes for download and love it.

haha oh right soz - i just saw the p&j thread and googled his azz

ive had a tab open w his mix for days & havent gotten a chance to play it yet lol

oh this is dope, thanks for bringing it to attention

TSJ wrote up 'coming home'

gotta agree with the higher scores for this one, this song is 100% corn, but as a professional cornball I love it. woke up this morning with this stuck in my head. for all of my shortcomings WELCOME TO MY HOMECOMING!

some of diddy's best rapps on the album but yeah it's a bit corny for me, def in the bottom tier of songs on this incredible album

also love how awkward diddy sounds on this, which then codes as sincerity in the context of the song. all the random "yeahs!"

Still my least favorite track.

more discussion on this record tho, plz yes