Is anyone anticipating the new Diddy album?

this sort of reminds me of the old terius jackoff seshes where we all loved the albums but had these great/inane arguments about what the best parts of them were. love it

nah i love "your love" - the dirty money girls are great on that. weak link is "yesterday" by faaaar and not just cuz it's c.brown

xps

yeah "yesterday" kind of disrupts the flow of the album, though it isn't a bad song in and of itself

top 3 is prob "hate you now," "i hate that I luv you" and "looking 4 love"

and I wasn't really feeling "angels" when it first dropped way back but in the context of the album it is a killer. especially coming after "shades," when those minimal synths creep in... great moment

they also changed the angels beat up

yeah, those synths weren't on the single version, right?

yeah the original was just like a straight up version of the 'where im from' instrumental

as far as production goes i think danja came hardest on this

i bought this album

chris has been reprehensible obv but as someone who was a huge fan of a lot of his singles pre-incident, i think pretty much everything he's put out since then has been straight crap objectively -- "yesterday" & "i know" are great tho so it breaks down my defenses a bit

The only tracks of his I unequivocally liked were "Run It" and "No Air", so it's been pretty easy to write him off TBH. (I thought I liked "Yo (Excuse Me Miss)" but listening to it on Youtube right now is the worst musical experience I've had in 2011, trebly annoying motherfucker get out of my headphones)

i loved 'kiss kiss' but that was almost all tpain

the original "Angels" just had "Where I'm From" beat + Biggie vox, the remix always had new synths + Ross

my favs are "ass on the floor" (duh), "looking for love" (single please) & "shades" -- the first and the last have my fav lines on the album too & both are about hearts -- "trying to find my way back to your heart, you motherfucker" & "i'll pour gasoline on my heart just to light your cigarette"

i have the rmx slotted in this album in my itunes

swizz hook on 'ass on teh floor' is awesome i dont get the criticism feels arbitrary

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 1:12 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is shipley.

― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 1:19 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"oh that guy that cares about rhythms and cadences and choruses that flow with a nice internal logic -- how silly and arbitrary!"

i mean obviously even the Swizz choruses that are good have a kind of sloppy stupid fun to them, but i think "Ass On The Floor" and some of his other recent hooks ("So Appalled," "Gucci Time," "Start It Up") are kind of annoying and just don't add anything to the song

"Your Love" not getting enough love itt

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 8:12 AM (8 hours ago)

lol dude this is the worst song on the album, come on

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"AAAAA-AAAAAHHHH WHATCHA GONNA DO" is for me one of the big euphoric moments of the album

I dunno, I think *VROOM VROOM* is pretty integral to "Start It Up"'s awesomeness, just saying

the secret to "Angels" is it sounds like "Desert Rose", which is a dope thing to sound like imo

his hook on 'ass' is a huge part of why that song is awesome

the divide there i guess is the idea that "Start It Up" has any awesomeness (xpost)

yes. xp

It was tough for me to ignore Chris's music at first because I really liked Exclusive, but it was easy to develop an aversion to his music by drinking rubbing alcohol and letting my roommate punch me in the stomach repeatedly while I played his discs back to back

i just think he sounds rushed and out of breath going "whenyouintheclubgetyourassonthefloor" -- like he might've made it sound dope if it was more at a "Bring Em Out" tempo or something but as is it just doesn't sound hot to me

I disagree with that so much that words fail me.

I mean, rushed yes, because he is saying 10 words practically all at once rapid-fire style and as such is going to sound "rushed", but where the hell are you getting "out of breath" from?

the rushedness just reads as excited and hence exciting to me. enthusiasm, infectious.

the snl performance of "ass on the floor" was hilarious because swizz is used (rather tastefully!) on the song as a backing presence as opposed to a more uhhh oppressive presence like on some other recent songs, but he mugged so shamelessly for the camera like he had never been on tv before, which maybe he hasn't idk

the thing that i think is great about "ass on the floor" is that -- either intentionally or not -- it's sort of a meta take on a dance floor song -- like you have swizz beats saying "when you in the club get your ass on the floor" in a way that almost sounds like a dj is just dropping his vocals over another song -- likewise you have the "pon de floor" sample as if a dj is mixing songs

i dunno out of breath i guess not the right words. but it doesn't have the relaxed flow that i feel a great Swizz Beatz refrain like, say, "Swing Ya Rag," has.

i think j0rdan is otm that it almost sounds like a DJ blending vocals from a different song over the beat, which is exactly what i dislike about it.

& i like that it's a song about how love & dancing & relationships interact on the dancefloor -- i feel like it's a much more classicist & old school take on dance music as opposed to a lot of the max & luke stuff that's all over the radio

i think j0rdan is otm that it almost sounds like a DJ blending vocals from a different song over the beat, which is exactly what i dislike about it.

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

opposite day

because i have to love the chorus of that song? because everyone has to?

i mean i'm trying not to Gier it up like "this song is a bad song because it is not melodic," i'm trying to explain myself

is it time to poll this one?

sure. whoever does it should make sure they include all the bonus tracks and stuff from the deluxe version though

poll the album? or poll this specific argument

I think of "ass on the floor" as being a relationship psycho-drama set at a club, swizz's vocal loop is like the sudden reminder of where you are even while you're staring at this dude and thinking "I love you you motherfucker". It's like a show don't tell version of a Robyn song.

(before you vom I'm not saying the song is good because it's like Robyn)

a relationship psycho-drama set at a club

i like the way the whole album's a relationship psychodrama that plays out as its protagonists jetset from one backdrop to another - the most obvious club moments, "ass on the floor" and "hello good morning", are a bit like glitzy celeb PAs

mjb sounding more alive than she has in years on the "someone to love me" remix btw http://www.thefader.com/2011/01/04/mary-j-blige-f-lil-wayne-and-diddy-someone-to-love-me-mjb-naked-mix-mp3/

i think j0rdan is otm that it almost sounds like a DJ blending vocals from a different song over the beat, which is exactly what i dislike about it.

― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

opposite day

― ich bin ein ilxor (deej),

Seconded, and because I agree with deej.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc0mok-QWxs

has everyone seen this !!!

the relationship/between diddy and dirty money, on record and in person, is really interesting to me. i love how they're super-polished and professional and he's just capering around like a big kid.

i really wish my mp3 of my interview with them, as well as the notes from it that didn't make the published piece, hadn't been lost in that fucking hard drive crash last year.

Are they doing the electric slide or

i know right!

the relationship/between diddy and dirty money, on record and in person, is really interesting to me. i love how they're super-polished and professional and he's just capering around like a big kid.

― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 5, 2011 4:31 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kind of reminds me of the way some female pop stars the last few years (Gwen Stefani, Fergie, etc.) tend to have like a 2 or 3-girl posse that are just kind of anonymous and voiceless, always posing or dancing behind them, except Dirty Money sing and do a lot of the vocal/emotive heavy lifting on the song

The tension b/w the two approaches is what makes "Ass on the Floor" the keeper.

the keeper? as if it's the only keeper?

for the sake of the poll, that is.

tbf the dirty mone girls are wearing like 6" stilettos

i think the first six proper tracks are an incredible run - there's so much packed in there, so many ideas, and i love the way all the voices crowd in, no one voice really being allowed to wrest control of a song

This is a flaw for me. This album isn't actually as all over the map as is being made out, I dunno, I found the whole thing kinda boring? Like whatever the reference points it's all filtered through the same glossy production aesthetic that makes it sonically kind of... anonymous? Which is weird for someone with such a larger-than-life persona.

The Grace Jones track is another example, what is the point of getting Grace Jones on a song if you're only going to make her sound like some jobbing rnb diva? Other than to go "look! It's Grace Jones! This means crazy all-over-the-place club music!"

Also I get the introspective side of Ass On The Floor but does it have to be so limp? It's let down by the sort of soggy rnb chorus that ruined the Nicki Minaj album. It's not like it's hard to put divas over dance music, but that song feels like a waste of the Pon De Floor snare for me.

Kinda wish he'd gone further down the house path on I Hate That You Love Me and Strobe Lights - by miles the two best songs, although both could do without the drippy bridges.

I don't think the nicki album is a good
point of comparison - the production moves out of the way for nicki, whereas this album is much more layered and demands to be considered holistically