RFI: Border Community - Nathan Fake, James Holden, The MFA, Petter etc.

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Heh, that live @ Lausanne would be the night I mentioned a couple of posts higher, when I DJed the small floor. So the live set I'm talking about probably also exists as a recording somewhere...

― blunt (blunt), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:32 (twenty years ago)

i kind of dont get the fake lp. its kind of...rock?

― terry lennox. (gareth), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

i take it everyone's heard holden's depeche mode remix by now?

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

(btw gareth the fake thread is here: nathan fake - drowning in a sea of love)

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

i've not heard it, mark. what's it like?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

i have gone to the other thread

im still sort of unsure about BC. perhaps it is that bit too fluffy for me. they seem very now, but also out of kilter with everything else, at the same time

soopertrack i like, i always wondered when there would be a marco zaffarano revival;) gazebo is probably my favourite one though

― red flag over st pancras (gareth), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

i take it everyone's heard holden's depeche mode remix by now?

pretty good (I'm talking about the dub version). Maybe not as immediate as the Black Strobe remix after one listen, but another interesting version of his wipe-out style (copyright T.Finney).

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

firstworldman: i just posted the regular (ie. not dub) version to the ysi thread

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:57 (twenty years ago)

which MANDY mixes are those, ronan?

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to nominate Minilogue's The Girl from Botany Bay as an honorary Border Community epic-track. My favorite part is to spot the finger snap, like Where's Waldo.

― yassarian, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Live@Name and Live@The Plaza.

Do you have them?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:50 (twenty years ago)

did you slsk those?

what tracks do they have?

― yassarian, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

i've seen those two more often on boards than slsk. try here. The Plaza set is the business.

― jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Just witnessed part of a N4th4n F4ke live set and didn't get it. It's noisy, weird and improvised, which could be good, but it's all drawn-out breakdowns every other minute with fucked-up sounds, hacked-up beats and noises, and one theme (a couple reoccurring notes or a bassline) every ten minutes. Brutal. I guess it makes more sense on some drug or other.

-- blunt

I like hearing his stuff that way a lot more than on record! Pretty OTM description though... it's not so fucked up though (imo) just not ball-achingly over-"beautiful".

Listening to a Holden essential mix now... is it Border Community's mission in life to deliberately wring the unfamiliar only from the utterly familiar & played out sounds of old?

Like how that Nathan Fake record kind of makes an IDM 101/Ulrich Schnauss record with an actual spine, handily cutting most of the crud off in the process?

And this Holden set is like... absolutely bog-standard fluffy prog house, or at least it WOULD be if the whole thing wasn't seemingly pitched down to the entirely wrong speed (Black Dog's "The End Of Time" in slo-mo), but stay with it and it starts to become... kind of interesting!

― file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:01 (twenty years ago)

some fairly glib impressions here hmm... they do seem "out of kilter" indeed, perhaps in a different (perhaps better) way than I'd previously imagined.

― file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:17 (twenty years ago)

The weird thing about that live cacophony was, NF didn't seem to acknowledge his (pop-eyed and mouth agape and anything goes.. into my nose) audience and they didn't seem to mind. Well, clubbers will mostly keep bouncing off the walls because that's what they came for and have been doing for hours - there is wishful momentum involved.

It felt like he had built a setup with improv/noise features which had him so fascinated that he didn't entirely master it or became too overwhelmed by its possibilities. Also, considering that variations in sound dynamics (beyond the constant, obvious tweaking) were few and far between overall, said possibilities weren't truly explored. It sounded more like "OK, there's this mode in which I can hold it together, let's not stray too far because this shit's messy enough as it is".

Also, losing track of time is what's called for in these proceedings but when a performer doesn't seem to realise he is doing it too, it veers towards self-indulgence.

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 19 March 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)

pop-eyed and mouth agape and anything goes.. into my nose

wait - you can snort e?

― Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 19 March 2006 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Yes, you crush it in to powder first.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Sunday, 19 March 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

not terribly recommended.
also, that minilogue "girl from botany bay" 12" (which rules my fucking world) is totally an honorary BC track... they should get some kind of decoder ring in honor.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

James Holden Essential Mix...the goodness! Also has a Nathan Fake liveset which blows his album away.

if you speak of me...

― Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Holden's "At The Controls" mix, anyone?

― mike h. (mike h.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

I dunno if I like the indie sound palette of At the Controls but the new Lazy Fat People - Big City is a track.

Eulberg is playing out a remix of All Together by Petter which is very nice. Is this Eulberg's own stuff? I really like it.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:12 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

I deleted that BBC session but... is that anything like his Mixes on CD?

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

fandango, that mix wasn't much cop I heard.

Also I did a Holden interview.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 20 May 2006 11:32 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

i really like doc martin much better than james holden.

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Sunday, 16 July 2006 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

you have just crossed the line into self-parody

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Sunday, 16 July 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

the Holden remix of Madonna's "get together" is really bizarre. i like it alot but it also sounds like he knocked it off in about an hour. it's like a deliberate attempt to sabotage any fame that might come about as a result of doing it in the first place. it sounds like one of Thomas Brinkmann's weirder tracks.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 16 July 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

i like it alot but it also sounds like he knocked it off in about an hour.

Yeah, like he has a button on his computer that says "press for instant Holden remix". Lovely remix indeed.

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 16 July 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

Petter's "Some Polyphony" is amazing.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 July 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

seriously guys, this "balance 005" mix (which is like years old now) is rather predictable, isn't it???

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Monday, 17 July 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

i am finding it sort of boring, compared to, say, the mixed relief/cajual comp i just got off ebay or the locodice/villalobos mix i just bought. am i missing the point?

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Monday, 17 July 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

fao vahid

http://www.discogs.com/release/694121

skip straight to cd2.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 July 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, what a tacky looking record.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed Ronan, that Petter track is just right.

― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 17 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

"seriously guys, this "balance 005" mix (which is like years old now) is rather predictable, isn't it??? "

Vahid it's a four year old prog mix! How unpredictable can it be?!?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

good call

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

lol, you guys!!

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

the balance mix is aight but its not wooshy enough for me

nothing's really wooshy enough for me

someday im just gonna have to start making the dance music i want to hear

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't like it on saturday night very much when i wanted to hear a baby ford CD but i liked it much better last night when i started that "recommend me music like steve hillage / jean michael jarre / e2-e4" thread.

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-but Baby Ford is on it!

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

"or the locodice/villalobos mix i just bought. am i missing the point? "

This is good isn't it, I especially love that second housey track on the Villalobos mix.

"someday im just gonna have to start making the dance music i want to hear"

Jess descriptions plz.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

yes baby ford is on it for a whole 1:19 but his monotone robotic bass jam is just used as a dj tools.

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

in this instance tim i think i mean incredibly light and fluffy and airy and wooshy trance-style stuff, like, i dunno, "the difference it makes" remix but even more, uh, wooshy.

also, i dont think this is possible but somehow driving and lighter-than-air at the same time.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

giant rave anthems made out of compressed oxygen

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jess it doesn't really fit your description but seriously have you heard "In White Rooms" yet?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

or maybe gas's pop compressed into riffs and stabs

xpost: no, what is?

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

also maybe suburban knight's "midnight sunshine" with way overloaded lush pads behind it

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

basically i want to feel like i'm in a bouncy castle made of cotton candy

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

jess wants timo maas

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's the big trancey track from the Booka Shade album, like "Mandarine Girl" but with something of the emotional epicness of the Superpitcher mix of "The Difference It Makes" and it's own special "things will never be as perfect as they were at this particular moment" brand of nostalgic melancholy.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

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