it really is sort of incredible
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:12 (fifteen years ago)
"I hear 'Tears of a Clown'...I hate that song!" never ceases to crack me up
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 12:22 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol yeah, but I actually love it because it sounds sincere instead of some of his ghostwritten stuff
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:14 (fifteen years ago)
the whole song is like "diddy ponders some deep thoughts"
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
was my #3 album
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
i do feel like pretty much every song on this album really does open up w/ repeated listens [...]
― ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 13, 2010 5:34 PM (3 weeks ago)
this is true for me too - originally i liked the first run of songs and then a few at the end, but almost every song has some really rewarding nugget buried that you don't appreciate until you've heard it a few times - i mean the first half of "strobe lights" is pretty useless for me but then that last minute is just killer, then there's the last minute of "hate you now", which took couple of listens for me to realize how incredible that changeup really is. and those gorgeous layers of vocals on "ass on the floor", even the very end of "your love" (probably the worst song on the album), but i'm a sucker for those chipmunk vocals. the back part of the album, which is i think pretty clearly the inferior half (especially if you don't have the deluxe!!) contains i think diddy's best rapping on the record, so that picks up some of the slack.
i'd be kind of interested to see everyone's poiii from this album
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:23 (fifteen years ago)
def an album that really takes a few, I always liked it but it was more a 'oh gee that's nice' type feel after the first two listens, and I didn't appreciate the density until about the third or fourth listen (especially the first time played in hte car)
― those balls look like a butt (San Te), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:25 (fifteen years ago)
you are all suckers, I understood its genius before I even clicked the download link
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:27 (fifteen years ago)
My number two album of the year but might end up number one if I keep enjoying it so much. "ass on the floor" is about as good as music can be.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 07:42 (fifteen years ago)
originally i liked the first run of songs and then a few at the end, but almost every song has some really rewarding nugget buried that you don't appreciate until you've heard it a few times
yeah - i really think this is a function of how frenetic the whole thing is, even when it's meditative, how many voices there are passing the narrative around and how many sonic change-ups there are beneath them - and yet the whole coheres so easily into really enjoyable club r&b.
i almost can't pick a top 3 yet because it flows so easily - maybe "yeah yeah you would", "i hate that you love me", "shades"?
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 07:59 (fifteen years ago)
agree that "change" isn't great - v.amusing to remember how terius was all like "i've done this song that's BETTER THAN UMBRELLA" a couple of years ago (jesus that's how long it's taken for this album to get off the ground)
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 08:00 (fifteen years ago)
when the handclaps or w/e come in during the chorus of 'hate that you love me'
so good
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 08:37 (fifteen years ago)
i love "change"!!
my top 3 would be "ass on the floor", "hate you now", and "yeah yeah you would". not at all set in stone
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:58 (fifteen years ago)
"ass on the floor" is about as good as music can be.
― Tim F, Tuesday, January 4, 2011 2:42 AM (3 hours ago)
yeah this is hands down the best song i've heard in ages
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:59 (fifteen years ago)
the first time you get the backing vocals "and you know just what to do" and one of the dirty money girls singing the same line with a different melody over the top is just like, guhhhhh, heroin hit right there.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 11:13 (fifteen years ago)
top3 "ass on the floor" "strobe lights" "hello good morning" but "love come down" is maybe my favorite song from this project
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 11:17 (fifteen years ago)
damn rev stole my top 3 ;_;
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 11:18 (fifteen years ago)
'love come down' is great but I was thinking of why it didn't make the cut - it's a little too straightforward, doesn't bob & weave like the other tracks do. the beat is so utterly magnificent and the primacy is established so convincingly within the first 5 seconds that there's really nowhere else for it to go imo.
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 11:21 (fifteen years ago)
also it kinda sounds like 'diddy does neptunes'
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 11:22 (fifteen years ago)
the vibe to me is so mid-90s, maybe the vocals moreso than the production
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 11:38 (fifteen years ago)
"Your Love" not getting enough love itt
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 13:12 (fifteen years ago)
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, January 3, 2011 9:23 PM Bookmark
It occurs to me that one of the reasons this is more successful than MBDTF is that Kanye's album stretches things out to allow all of its ideas time to bring attention to themselves, whereas on LTtP, everything is just piled on top of each other. After one listen to the Kanye, you've heard everything, whereas the enormity of Diddy's album takes many listens to understand.
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:30 (fifteen years ago)
And thus repeat listens to this one are much more rewarding.
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:31 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really annoyed that he put Chris Brown on this. I would like to pick it up, but I absolutely refuse to on the grounds that I don't want any of my time or money knowingly going to a project that involves that douche.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:31 (fifteen years ago)
if you bought several albums by different artists in your life, you surely already gave money to big douches
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
Ashamed to say I like both the CB tracks. u_u
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
i wonder if T-Pain is still getting royalties off this album, considering that it's a bit less AutoTune-y and influenced by him than it probably was going to be when Diddy originally made that deal with him.
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
not exactly the point
I am not blanket-opposed to giving money to all douches; I am specifically opposed to giving money to Chris Brown, a dude I thought was marginally talented at best (aside from "No Air") before he beat the shit out of his girlfriend and then acted mad and petulant that people were pissed at him for it.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:03 (fifteen years ago)
yeah...i don't know how guest stars on albums like this make money from it, if they just get an upfront fee or if they do get some performance royalties. either way it's gotta be pretty negligible where your copy won't make much of a difference. and anyway it's never been easier to enjoy someone's music without financially benefitting them, so there's always that.
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:05 (fifteen years ago)
well also I am opposed to giving money to projects that contain Chris Brown as this will help business and creative people think that his name will help drive sales
this is not an "I must Make A Stand!" opinion, this is an "I would like to opt out of that part of the process" opinion.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:07 (fifteen years ago)
(also you know I go out of my way NOT to pirate shit; again, personal choice)
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i feel you. i guess you could buy all the non-CB songs individually on iTunes? although yeah you're still supporting the tainted project in general.
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:09 (fifteen years ago)
ha maybe I'll just buy the singles (assuming they are Brown-free)
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
I placed "Ass On the Floor" on my NYE playlist and my sister goes, "Holy shit, who is this? It's awesome!"
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:12 (fifteen years ago)
SMOKE WEED LISTEN TO SADE
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:15 (fifteen years ago)
yeah I heard "Ass On The Floor" at a club this weekend and it was really mindblO_Owing, especially since they were playing crappy house mixes of Beyonce and Britney otherwise
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:15 (fifteen years ago)
it took me a couple of listens to to figure out he said Sade.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:16 (fifteen years ago)
i like "Ass On The Floor" but i have a hard time seeing it as one of the album's best tracks, maybe mainly because it's got one of Swizz's more awkward and rushed-sounding hooks
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:18 (fifteen years ago)
I love the synth pad under the rap though.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:19 (fifteen years ago)
okay "Ass on the Floor" wins just for using the "Pon De Floor" beat
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
(or more properly cadence, since it isn't EXACTLY the same beat)
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:18 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is crazytown
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
i love "ass on the floor" but it's definitely not "OMG HIGHLIGHT" for me - it has some of the best moments on the album (the electrik red-esque verses pivoting around the word "motherfucker", the insane post-diddy breakdown) but could definitely do without swizz's vocals on it.
totally feel dan re: chris brown's presence - ditto on the keri hilson album - luckily for me i'm not giving money to either project (though i've already given both positive publicity, i guess), and in both cases the brown track is by far the worst and so skippable that i need never actually think about it. but yeah it's the principle of the thing, bringing him back into the fold.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
swizz hook on 'ass on teh floor' is awesome i dont get the criticism feels arbitrary
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
this is shipley.
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
i don't get the anti-chris brown activism
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:20 (fifteen years ago)
Some people do not like encouraging unrepentant woman beaters; there's not really all that much to get.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
rap music is full of unrepentant criminals... i'd buy a chris brown album or an ike turner album, even a burzum album if i liked the music...
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:31 (fifteen years ago)
And I wouldn't.
Hooray, we both win! Isn't modern society great?
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
being logical is even greater
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
How is individually deciding not to knowingly contribute money that may directly or indirectly provide some sort of support to a figure who you do not feel deserves it? Dan chooses not to, you do, nobody is criticizing you for it, get over it
― those balls look like a butt (San Te), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:44 (fifteen years ago)