James Blake, Mt Kimbie, CD/SD

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but with antonyish vocals

diamonddave85, Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

listening to the new album now and it's just really damn boring aside from Limit to Your Love. it's not surprising that the one track with a real melody is a cover. "unparalleled use of space" has flatlined into "where's the music".

skip, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

Lex is gonna hate me even more for this, but I'm listening to this randomised with the new Nicolas Jaar, and there really ain't a lot of difference in tone, mood, ideas etc. The singing doesn't really bother me, it just sounds like another instrument. I was expecting loads of horrible faux-cockney crooning, but the vocals have mostly been manipulated so they blur in and out with the music.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 6 January 2011 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

AntonIver... what a disappointment this record is.

Hector Savage, Saturday, 8 January 2011 00:16 (fifteen years ago)

?

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Saturday, 8 January 2011 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

Good fucking God, this James Blake album is awful.

Cracker Flocka Flame (Doran), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

I thought you said you liked it John?

Haven't really listened to it properly yet. I want to like it, but then the only tracks I've really enjoyed so far have been L2YL and the CMYK ep.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

No, I really, really like the CMYK EP but this is like Jamie Liddell or Fran Healy suddenly deciding to their tribute to 808s and Hearbreak.

But not as charming as that sounds.

Cracker Flocka Flame (Doran), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

It's atrocious.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

Annoying thing is, there's the kindling of a great album in there - piano + subdued electronics + vocals that sound like they're sampled from 70 years ago, but the execution is terrible. It's like the Caribou album in that I can't believe he listened to those vocals again and again and decided they would in some way do.

Also, the singer songwriter aspect is being played up a bit, it's mostly the same refrains repeated over and over again.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I agree about that. Other than "Limit", it's not indie or singer/songwriter music. Maybe this is a matter of overhyping. Only a couple of months ago this guy was an unheard-of dubstep producer making slightly subdued, sketchy tracks, now he's supposed to be some sensitive saviour of modern pop writing.

(agree on Caribou too - I don't get that album).

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 10 January 2011 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

there's the kindling of a great album in there

this is otm, there are a few moments on this record where i think 'damn a whole album of this could be my favorite thing in the world' but with the exception of those few bits ('wilhelms scream', 'lindesfarne', the feist cover) he doesn't seem to have enough grasp of melody/harmony to pull off the 'hauntingly beautiful' look that i assume he's going for here. most of the tracks are underdeveloped, and what's there just isn't resonating with me melody-wise even though i really want it to because i love his sound palette and production. it's frustrating.

ciderpress, Monday, 10 January 2011 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

I tried to listen to this album when I was in the mood for something similar but it failed to capture my attention. It's just not a good effort.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 10 January 2011 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Okay, so I listened to the whole thing on headphones on my way back form work yesterday.

It's not bloody awful. In fact the only thing that offends me about it is the autotune, which sounds like it's been applied as liberally as cover-stick on a Stevenage girl's face of a Friday evening.

So much has been made of Blake's capacity as a singer and "classically trained" songwriter that it's almost eclipsed his production talent, which I really do like. So why, with such mooted talent, has he decided to make himself sound like the fat warbling woman who takes your sandwich order at Greggs? Unlike Kanye, Blake evidently can sing, as evidenced by his deliberately deadpan delivery on "Limit To Your Love".

The use of autotune ruins so many moments, ironically making things sound out of tune, more often than not. Lindisfarne could have been an amazing piece of vocal harmonics, but it sounds like sort of a mess.

But maybe that's the whole point. This is electronica, after all, and maybe Blake is wary of aligning himself with Rufus Wainwright just yet. Had this been released on Warp for example, would this album be viewed differently? Everything Blake has done before has been idiosyncratic to say the least. An artist like this getting this kind of acclaim would have been unimaginable a couple of years ago. Since then we've had The xx, Burial, Darkstar etc, all plowing ahead with ideas of restraint and space, and receiving a fair amount of attention too.

I think the problem with this album is that it has had so many hopes pinned to it in a relatively small amount of time, yet it's very difficult to categorise. It's not really a singer/songwriter album; it's miles away from dubstep in the traditional sense of the word; and the hype factor has boosted it beyond the realms of IDM or experimental electronica. And don't start telling me it's indie,because FFS.

But in other ways, this album almost comes off as a parody of the last coupl of years of music - the autotune, the slight mockney affectations, the UK-singer/songwriter/producerness, the AC-esque vocal clouding, the dubstep influence, the XX-ness of it all... this might well be why ilxors find it so irksome, as opposed to the album sounding awful, because autotuned vocals aside, there are some quite cool bits on it.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

Blake evidently can sing, as evidenced by his deliberately deadpan delivery on "Limit To Your Love"

This isn't actually evidence that he can sing, quite the opposite actually.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

He's using that delivery to mask the lack of any real vocal range or power, is what I'm getting at.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

I'd call that singing. It's an idiosyncratic style, and it sounds like he's treated the vocal a little, or slowed it down, but it works for the song. He's been quoted in interviews as saying that he prefers to flatten his vocal when he sings, influenced by certain Sam Cooke songs apparently. He has sung in gospel choirs and things too. So he can sing, but it's like he's got something to hide with the excessive treatment.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Slowest, most defective Procol Harum album ever.

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:41 (fifteen years ago)

I'd much sooner listen to Kerogen, if I'm going to go for Lover's Dubstep. Lovestep if you will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY-Beggc2zE

Bonnie Tyler The Creator (Doran), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

last year i spent hours digging out a kerogen cd-r that had been sent to me.
all that effort for a 1 track cd-r.
then again, it was a bloody good track (not the one posted ^^ i think).

mark e, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

blubstep

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno what you lot are hearing. this album is great. and lovely. listening for the first time now. much better than jamie fucking woon in any case.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

That's a relief. I was beginning to think I was the only person here who loves this album.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

one of the best albums ive heard in ages. i dont know how its inspired such hate.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

(apart from people being sheeplike, obv)

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Love the album too, from start to finish.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

Agree that Kerogen is better than both Blake and Woon.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

yeah love this album a lot

the Chinese firewall of the heart (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

that korgen track is pretty boring, lacks character imo. this stuff jacks burial better imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV9Lrt8ZVaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS52AKvj8M0

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

i wish it was a whole album based around the vocoder chorale sound in 'lindesfarne', that's the most magical bit of this for me

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/feb/03/james-blake-album-review
Petridis on the new album. Sounds like he's being a little fair on it.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

The Quietus and Fact reviews are pretty damn fair as well: http://thequietus.com/articles/05632-james-blake-review / http://www.factmag.com/2011/02/04/james-blake-james-blake/

I still need to hear it I've been sleeping on it cos I don't dl and couldn't be arsed asking for a promo. Glad there is some sense being talked in amongst the hype he deserves it, he's got some killer music in him.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

thought the Petridis review was reasonable overall but he raised my hackles straight out of the blocks with "tiny independents" in the first paragraph - pretty sure R&S isn't run out of someone's bedroom ffs

look its not that you listen to metal its that youre a bellend ok (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

That Quietus review is pretty much OTM.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

fuck fairness this album is abysmal and thoroughly worthless

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

god i should've pitched to review it somewhere but i couldn't face slogging through it again

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

TheQuietus are pretty much otm its a bit unfair to call it dance music for bedweters though, its not really got any dance on it as far as I can tell. Couldn't they just call it music for bedweters? lol

jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

eh, well as much as a "what *is* dance music really" conflab would be as boring and pointless as the equivalent 'indie' one that ppl on here seem have been flogging of late, there are plenty of programmed drums and basslines on the album

look its not that you listen to metal its that youre a bellend ok (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

lots of boring strawmanning here

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

mrdreamnyc MR. DREAM by rifftrafft
Also...one free Best New Music to the first chillwave band that names itself "James Blake the Tennis Player"

i lol'd

no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

Its more electronic than dance though, you can be one without the other. He does make dance music in other places like... But not here. Doesn't really matter though.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 February 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

i do find it amusing that james blake the producer's rise to prominence coincided EXACTLY with james blake the tennis player falling out of the top 100

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:03 (fifteen years ago)

I by no means love this album; I by no means hate it either. I'd be interested to hear why people who hate it do though - especially those who like his previous stuff, but also Lex. Not trolling, but I'd like to hear it articulated into words beyond "it's awful".

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

my cousin represents the tennis platwe -- i should ask her about this james blake

no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

you never mentioned that your cousin represents tennis players j0rdan!!! :O

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol "platwe"

yeah she works for IMG

no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

dog latin: http://twitter.com/lexpretend/statuses/20406733859987456

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

OMG DOES YOUR COUSIN MANAGE VERA ZVONAREVA TOO??!!!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

lol idk

no beans, push to fart (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 February 2011 15:10 (fifteen years ago)


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