i wonder how many the waka live streams have pulled in without credit card promotions as many fans as arcade fire
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
credit card companies are the only thing that draw more eyeballs than gangsta rap, everyone knows that
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
corporate promotions do tend to increase something's visibility yesbut be smarmy for no reason if u want
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
even the youtube comparison is kind of impressive for arcade fire. u wouldn't expect ppl to "consume" arcade fire thru youtube like u wld yo gotti, right?
― zvookster, Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
why not?
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
uh, all the reasons stated by you and others upthread about how social media and streaming sites represent a bigger piece of the pie for mixtape rappers than for AOR indie bands?
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont recall saying that about youtube but about illegal downloads / bootlegging & what audiences are likely to pay for CDs. just because someone pays for a CD doesnt mean they dont stream youtube when they're at work / dont feel like getting the cd
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
like, the question isnt 'who is likely to stream' its 'who is likely to pay money for a musical product'
those are related but not inverted questions
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess? i mean the much-referenced datpiff streams music too, it's not all downloads.
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i think of a lot of modern rap as being more song-oriented where someone might just play the track(s) they like 10 times on youtube or whatever vs. a rock artist where you're only considered a 'fan' of the artist if you have the album and can name every song off it
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
like it doesn't seem like a fluke that there aren't a lot of "check out this cool song i found on youtube" posts on ilx rock threads like the ones you fill the rap threads with
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
you guys should check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXHuf5Oo3PY
― scott seward, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link
so amazing.
hahaha well played scott
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Arcade Fire's biggest viral video wasn't on YouTube; it had it's own website because it utilised html5 code. Just saying. Also 3million AT ONCE vs 3million over the lifetime of a video on YouTube (ie several months) is a BIG difference.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link
dont worry, deej is still otm -- he just hasn't figured out his next move yet
http://www.chessguru.net/end_game/two_rooks_checkmate/checkmate.png
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link
this is so dumb
theres also gonna be like 5 times as many yo gotti tracks as arcade fire tracks in a given year. most of which are all competing for views on youtube.
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link
and ilxor should really stop posting until hes doing something other than scorekeeping & otm-ing more times than a 2008 hoos with meth in his dr pepper
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Last.fm
Arcade Fire76,887,119 plays (1,459,726 listeners)
Yo Gotti1,181,879 plays (262,194 listeners)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ not scorekeeping, just another glimpse of reality
i know you dont care
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah sorry dude i dont consider last.fm anything like a scientific sample, no
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
'reality'
and i dont even know how to being to process the apples / oranges comparison that is a live streaming show being compared to streaming youtubes of album & mixtape tracks
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link
so basically there is no "accurate" sample that you'll accept, because the available samples all disprove your claims
right
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link
glad that is settled then
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf why would last.fm ever be an accurate sample
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
^^
― markers, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link
why would any inaccurate internet site be a perfect (i.e. "accurate") sample?? last.fm, youtube, whatever, it's all just snapshots of people listening to stuff. but it's all we have to go by, unless deej is to be believed saying "i got no evidence, perfect or otherwise, but trust me, i am right, k?"
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
stfu markers ;_;
just b/c you clocked 200k arcade fire plays in 2010 doesnt mean it's not a decent talking point
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
right--we shouldn't go by terrible statistics just because they're the only ones we have
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:12 AM
still got <3 4 u dude, but i have to agree w/ what cad said upthread
― markers, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd agree that last.fm isn't perfect (same w/ youtube) but they are by no means "terrible" -- unless you'd like to qualify that for us
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
last.fm is just a bunch of ppl who like to broadcast their music tastes to other ppl!
― markers, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
using a service that most people aren't on to get a sense of what's popular makes no sense
― markers, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link
last.fm is for college student for chrissakes
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
You cannot accurately judge this in either direction. The winner is Take That because they sold 1.8million albums in 8 weeks or something.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link
no fucking clue where dude is getting these stats, but
http://perezhilton.com/2010-12-28-top-ten-most-illegally-downloaded-albums-songs-and-music-videos-of-2010
― nog it out with (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 30 December 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Kylie is gangsta rap, right?
comment #45
― markers, Thursday, 30 December 2010 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney that seems to be the stats of a shitty tumblr
― zvookster, Thursday, 30 December 2010 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
who illegally downloads music videos?
― /\/K/\/\, Thursday, 30 December 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link
uhm i was a member of an invite-only rap vids room on slsk tbh :/ but eh yeah i doubt it's common. in this case they're talking about streams tho and it's just some shitty tumblr, honestly
― zvookster, Thursday, 30 December 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Terrorizer top 40 - mag is out today I think - p good list imo (NB I voted in it and daresay I moved eg the Christian Mistress record up a few places)
1 TRIPTYKON EPARISTERA DAIMONES CENTURY MEDIA2 ENSLAVED AXIOMA... INDIE3 WATAIN LAWLESS DARKNESS SEASON OF MIST4 GHOST OPUS EPONYMOUS RISE ABOVE5 ELECTRIC WIZARD BLACK MASSES RISE ABOVE6 BURZUM BELUS CANDLELIGHT7 SWANS MY FATHER... YOUNG GODS8 KVELERTAK KVELERTAK INDIE9 DARKTHRONE CIRCLE THE WAGON PEACEVILLE10 KILLING JOKE ABSOLUTE DISSENT SPINEFARM11 CHRISTIAN MISTRESS AGONY AND OPIUM YOUNG GODS12 BLACK BREATH HEAVY BREATHING SOUTHERN LORD13 ANATHEMA WE'RE HERE BECAUSE... KSCOPE14 IRON MAIDEN THE FINAL FRONTIER EMI15 IHSAHN AFTER CANDLELIGHT16 DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN OPTION PARALYSIS SEASON OF MIST17 NEGURA BUNGET VIRSTELE... CODE 66618 ALCEST ECAILLES DE LA LUNE PROPHECY19 GNAW THEIR TONGUES L'ARIVEE... CANDLELIGHT20 WINTERFYLLETH THE MERCIAN SPHERE CANDLELIGHT21 TWILIGHT MONUMENT TO TIME PROFOUND LORE22 CATHEDRAL GUESSING GAME NUCLEAR BLAST23 NACHTMYSTIUM ADDICTS PART II CANDLELIGHT24 ROTTING CHRIST AEOLO SEASON OF MIST25 KYLESA SPIRAL SHADOW SEASON OF MIST26 ENFORCER DIAMONDS EARACHE27 BASTARD PRIEST UNDER THE HAMMER PULVERISED28 HAIL OF BULLETS ON DIVINE WINDS METAL BLADE29 HIGH ON FIRE SNAKES FOR THE DEVINE E1/CENTURY MEDIA30 SHINING (NO) BLACK JAZZ INDIE31 ION DISSONANCE CURSED BASICK32 VOMITOR DEVILS POISON HELLS HEADBANGERS33 AGALLOCH MARROWS OF THE SPIRIT VIVA HATE34 OCEAN HELIOCENTRIC METAL BLADE35 ATHEIST JUPITER SEASON OF MIST36 SABBATH ASSEMBLY RESTORED TO ONE AJNA OFFENSIVE37 ABSCESS DAWN OF INHUMANITY PEACEVILLE38 INTEGRITY THE BLACKEST CURSE DEATHWISH39 SLOUGH FEG THE ANIMAL SPIRITS CRUZ DEL SUR40 LUDICRA THE TENANT PROFOUND LORE
― When I Pardew I See Rakes (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I just got back from the town centre with my copy and saw your email haha. At least it saves me from typing it up lol
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Good list but some bands way too low (or high)
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Darkthrone will find it difficult to circle that single wagon ;_;
― Neil S, Thursday, 30 December 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i was disappointed with that sabbath assembly album
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 30 December 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I was too, didn't hear what others seemed to be hearing. Agalloch way too fucking low. I realize that album on the verge of being the metal world's 2010 Arcade Fire album (in that it shows up on every damn list), but it really really is that amazing. Had to drive in to work last night for the first time in months, cranked it up really really loud for the commute home, and fell in love with it again.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:05 (9 hours ago)
yeah but deej you said pretty much the same thing about Youtube views & yet you are still using those stats to declare Gucci victorious over Arcade Fire
― Ned Rag & the Evil Olive Gardens (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link