How Daryl Hall Became Cool Again; Or, How Glossy Magazines Started Paying Attention Again.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
don't worry, we thought he was cool before everyone else did
― gravity explodes (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Hall and Oates were always dope.
― rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
The end of the Hall & Oates era came in a hotel bathroom in 1990 in Tokyo, where they had just performed at a Yoko Ono–sponsored concert commemorating the death of John Lennon. There, in a sad, reflective moment, John Oates said good-bye—to the mustache.“It really was a kind of spiritual moment for me,” Oates says, laughing. “The mustache represented a me I no longer was. I shaved it off and never looked back.” The next day, he and Hall were waiting at the Tokyo airport for a flight back to the States when Miles Davis appeared. “He came up to me with those red eyes of his,” says Oates. “He got like three inches from my face and kinda drew his finger across his own upper lip, as if he was shaving, and he said to me [in a deep, raspy voice], ‘Now the lovin’s gonna be better.’ ”
“It really was a kind of spiritual moment for me,” Oates says, laughing. “The mustache represented a me I no longer was. I shaved it off and never looked back.” The next day, he and Hall were waiting at the Tokyo airport for a flight back to the States when Miles Davis appeared. “He came up to me with those red eyes of his,” says Oates. “He got like three inches from my face and kinda drew his finger across his own upper lip, as if he was shaving, and he said to me [in a deep, raspy voice], ‘Now the lovin’s gonna be better.’ ”
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
oh my god at miles davis
― peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
There was a period where people cut down Hall and Oates as if they were Air Supply, but how long ago was that? "Maneater" was street just like "Beat It" and "Billie Jean". And they were put a song with the word "bitch" in it on the radio!
― toni mitchell (u s steel), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
According to Daryl Hall, when Jackson was recording “We Are the World”, Jackson approached him and admitted to lifting the bass line for "Billie Jean" from a Hall and Oates song, apparently referring to "I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)". Hall says that he told Jackson that he had stolen the bass line as well.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Really though, what sort of lyric is "She needs a place she can lounge and wear gowns in."
A genius one, that's for sure.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link
PFM posted Ben Gibbard's H&O piece. It's stupid.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
That Miles quote cracks me up.
― Cuius regio, eius radicchio (Michael White), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the Gibbard thing veers close to genuine fannish excitement in places but he's at such pains to describe the band's output as absurd and ridiculous that you wonder why he bothered at all. Doesn't seem much of a step above the "name-checking for cred" thing that he dismisses at the start.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
"Italian Girls"This is a rare appearance of John Oates on lead vocals. A quick perusing of the liner notes indicates that Oates penned this tune without the assistance of Daryl Hall or any of the other songwriters the duo had been known to collaborate with. And you can tell. The ethnically tinged lyrics (ex., "I see Sophia on the silver screen-a" ) hit a level of offensiveness rivaled only by Genesis' "Illegal Alien"
I guess "offensive" means something else in Gibbardsville.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
jesus. so that's the nudnik who gets to put it in zooey d?
― a lil weezy goes a long way (will), Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
btw, John Oates had a lot more lead vocal bits in the 70s, so calling "Italian Girls" a rare occurrence just makes me think Gibbard is more of a doofus than I already did.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah! The most persistent misconception is Oates' redundancy when he in fact wrote many songs alone, cowrote most of their hits, and played better guitar than Hall.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
okay I don't need to read that article, the picture at the top pretty much says everything
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, 18 August 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-zn-CuBD6U
― post, Thursday, 18 August 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GAqzcMevgg
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 August 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
this is weird, "I Can't Go For That" was just playing on my PC when i clicked on this thread
man, cee-lo is an embarassingly bad singer, bad choice to put him in a place where he'll be compared to daryl fuckin hall. Probably true of anybody that appears on this...podcast? What a weird idea for a series.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 August 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Really? I thought he sounded pretty good. Anyway, the series make sense to me, but I think the informal muso jam session works here in general (maybe because it's actually pretty structured). It's not just various people doing H&O covers with Daryl Hall. Anyway, I was impressed with the Company of Thieves episode.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 August 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Daryl Hall still sounds good, but he still doesn't sound like the Daryl Hall of the 70s and 80s. It's not like putting peak era Hall next to other singers.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 August 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is a tight version, especially rhythimically
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
as sick as i am of Cee-Lo these days i don't really see how anyone can call him a "bad singer"
― contender's game (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
this is wonderful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5B6lJPa1Wc&feature=related
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
Ehhh, I guess maybe I overstated it, more "he annoys me" than "he is bad," but Hall is one of my favorite singers in the game so I'm sorta biased on that side too.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 August 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDFaUVCaUuI&feature=related
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 22 October 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
Mannnnnnnnnnnn, that guy can sing. I was a little disappointed it wasn't a Blink-182 or Bjork oover but that faded fast.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 22 October 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
Last year's solo album was a genuine surprise, and, yeah, the bastard can still sing.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 October 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes >>>>> Bjork-182
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 22 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
lmao @ 'bjork-182'
― 乒乓, Monday, 22 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
it's a collab that needs to happen
ol' Darryl shoulda got Beans to spit his verse from "This Can't Be Life" there, speaking of collabs that need to happen
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 22 October 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://dinerhotline.wordpress.com/2010/08/14/the-story-of-the-the-abandoned-luncheonette-aka-the-rosedale-diner/
^second part of this is a great read, but first part is worth reading for context
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
What a great story! Thanks Rev.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
Fantastic find, Rev. Will be sharing that one out!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
can anyone tell me who the first musicians to come out and namecheck hall and oates as favorites were, in terms of rehabilitating their image with the general public? i kind of feel like that will happen too with billy joel if it hasn't already, but he comes across as such a sad sack i am guessing it will take alot longer (and his music doesn't have any "urban" cred which H&O always did)
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 6 January 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
the general public never thought H&O needed rehabilitation. It was kids whose parents bought H&O records and later started writing music reviews and going dancing who realized that "I Can't Go For That" and "Out of Touch" and at least a half dozen other singles were marvelous. No rehab necessary.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 January 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
and they have never left R&B and adult R&B stations.
yeah, that was imprecise of me, i guess i meant indie types who i am imagining ridiculed them as 80s dreck, and now they are "hip" "again"....put another way, did any big time indie musicians come out as fans starting, maybe, 10-15 years ago?
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Too tired to write all the necessary qualifications but Fun Lovin Criminals come to mind
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
maybe an outgrowth of those yacht rock videos
― Spectrum, Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder if the H&O as punchline thing was entirely from the cheesy videos
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
re: billy joel, i was listening to him in the car a while ago and had a sacrilegious moment where i thought "maybe this guy ain't so bad, he writes catchy songs." and i've heard a quiet murmuring of joel reappraisal recently. maybe his moment of being appreciated by the People Who Really Matter (ie, not corny ass suburban lame-o's) is dawning.
― Spectrum, Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
but the corney-ass suburban lame-o's have for thirty years been responsible for H&O's royalties!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
definitely, spectrum, joel's stock is on the rise
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
I like them, if only in an American Psycho / sterile yuppie kinda way. I mean, "Rich Girl" is a great song, no?— Bob Marley
― buzza, Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
In Philadelphia Hall & Oates is in the tap water. (That's not what gives it that funny taste though.)
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
My sense is that a whole lot of people went "Gee that Billy Joel ain't half bad" after the Sandy benefit performance. This immediately made me want to run to the hills.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
can anyone tell me who the first musicians to come out and namecheck hall and oates as favorites were, in terms of rehabilitating their image with the general public?
surely this is solely responsible:
http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/5896-death-cab-for-cutie-my-favorite-ten-songs-by-the-rock-group-hall-oates/
Death Cab for Cutie: My Favorite Ten Songs by the Rock Group Hall & OatesBy Ben Gibbard, Death Cab for Cutie , February 10, 2003
― President Keyes, Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
oh did you have to
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link