No, you're right, it's just the first thing you hear on the song, thus the first thing I had an opinion. And yeah, I shut this off after like 45 secs.
― rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Thursday, 23 December 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
man you guys are sensitive
― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno whiney just not into rap fantasies about home invasion involving rape
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similies (deej), Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
so you're gonna throw all your Geto Boys CDs out?
― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
ive never seen a geto boys video where they actually act this sort of thing out, no
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similies (deej), Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh son
― The Reverend, Friday, 24 December 2010 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Probably helps that I can listen at work and use a popular streaming service but at the end of each month I usually end up with 10-12 new records I feel I've digested enough to have an opinion on, by the end of the year I'll have 100 records that I am familiar with to a degree. Most year's, be it from when I was 16 and my paper round used to pay for Our Price shopping trips to now I'll always come back to about 20 records. Also likely that five or six of those aren't in the top 20 I finished in that year's December.
― Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 24 December 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i listened to somewhere around 150-200 full albums this year (plus many mixes, countless singles/trax etc) - in most cases i privilege stuff i'm likely to enjoy; unless i actually have to, i'm unlikely to listen to, say, the full ke$ha album, given how much i hate the singles. anyway i usually wind up with around 20 that i'd actively recommend from that, and about 20 more albums that aren't necessarily amazing but are still "worth hearing".
i mean, literally everything i listened to this year is on my last.fm, except the repeat plays of albums i disliked but had to listen to over and over again for work - i kind of think all critics should have one? like, our taste is part of our ~brand~.
an interesting qn might be - how many times do you have to hear an album to really get a grasp on it? obv the answer varies from album to album...
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 24 December 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link
for me it's almost not how many times i hear an album but the course of time -- i trust myself much more after hearing an album 5 times over the course of a month or two than 5 times over 2 days
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 December 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i haven't been writing reviews on a strict deadline for a while tho
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 December 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah, pretty much agree. if you are working to deadline you have to try to second guess yourself a bit in that regard. this doesn't always work - several times i've overrated something that i thought would be a slow grower, only to never play it again. and indeed vice versa.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 24 December 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Without prior exposure (live, twitter snippets etc) probably five on average. If by the 4th listen I feel like I know a lot of the album already that's probably a good sign.
― Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 24 December 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Kinda surprised that Corinne Bailey Rae only showed up on a few of these lists.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 December 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I like some of this LoneLady stuff, though I'm not sure how much yet. (Was not familiar with them--or her, if it's just one person--before.)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i think we should let anyone with the balls/deeplisteningskills to do a top 100 like chuck, matos or fastnbulb to post in this thread― buzzoff (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, December 20, 2010 12:48 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark
― buzzoff (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, December 20, 2010 12:48 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark
not xhuxk, not matos, nof fast'n'bulby...but all balls. if yr favorite records aren't on the list then i either didn't hear them or didn't like them or wasn't interested in them.
1. Allison Moorer, Crows2. Cibelle, Las Venus Resort Palace Hotel3. Erykah Badu, New Amerykah Vol. 2: Return of the Ankh4. The-Dream, Love King 5. Das Racist, Shut Up, Dude6. Titus Andronicus, The Monitor 7. Calle 13, Entren Los Que Quieren 8. R. Kelly, Love Letter9. V.A. The Scottsboro Boys, Original Off-Broadway Cast10. Michaels Uncle, Return of Dark Psychedelia11. Tarbaby, The End of Fear12. Ciara, Basic Instinct13. Mulatu Astatke, Steps Ahead 14. Shakira, Sale el Sol15. DJ Zhao, Ngoma 4: Generation Bass 16. M.I.A., Maya17. Henry Threadgill, This Brings Us To, Vol. 218. Janelle Monae, The ArchAndroid 19. Cathedral, The Guessing Game20. Heart, Red Velvet Car
21. Sade, Soldier of Love22. Markus Laufenberg Mumur, Ennedi23. Guzaarish soundtrack24. Nortec Collective, Bulevar 200025. Traband, Domasa26. Ranjit Barot, Bada Boom 27. Cee-Lo Green, The Lady Killer28. The Roots, How I Got Over29. Al-yaman, Insanyya30. The Morning Benders, Big Echo31. Ted Leo and the Pharmacists, The Brutalist Bricks32. Esperanza Spalding, Chamber Music Society33. Beppe Crovella, What’s Rattlin’ on the Moon34. Big Boi, Lucious Leftfoot35. Format A’3, Sync36. Cornershop, Judy Sucks a Lemon for Breakfast37. The Body, All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood38. V.A., Fela! Original Broadway Cast Recording39. Das Racist, Sit Down, Man40. Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
41. High on Fire, Snakes for the Divine42. Raheem DeVaughn, The Love and War Masterpeace43. Benoit Delbecq, Circles & Calligrams44. Bruce Springsteen, The Promise45. Speed Caravan, Kalashnik Love46. It’s a Wonderful Afterlife soundtrack47. Taylor Swift, Speak Now48. Of Montreal, False Priest49. Black Keys, Brothers50. MGMT, Congratulations51. Yellow Sisters, Tubab Woman52. Manu Chao, Baionarena53. Matorralman, Guateque Estelar 54. Vampire Weekend, Contra55. Omar Sosa & NDR Bigband, Ceremony56. Pat Metheny, Orchestrion57. King Giant, Southern Darkness58. Holy Fuck, Latin59. Robin Holcomb and Talking Pictures with Wayne Horvitz, The Point of It All60. Sufjan Stevens, The Age of Adz
61. Bird Show Band, Bird Show Band62. Black Robot, Baddass63. Chrisette Michelle, Let Freedom Reign64. Jamey Johnson, The Guitar Song65. My Name is Khan soundtrack66. Nellie McKay, Home Sweet Mobile Home67. How to Dress Well, Love Remains68. Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings, I Learned the Hard Way69. Rob Swift, The Architect70. Pantha Du Prince, Black Noise71. Gil Scott-Heron, I’m New Here72. Bettye LaVette, Interpretations73. Jon Oliva’s Pain, Festival74. Big Light, Big Light75. The Doubt, Never Pet a Burning Dog76. Alesana, The Emptiness77. Raduza, Miluju Vas78. Steve Raegele, Last Century79. Untied States, Instant Everything, Constant Nothing80. Emanuel and the Fear, Listen
81. Ruth Gerson, This Can’t Be My Life82. Deadbeat, Radio Rothko83. Moraine, Manifest Density84. Elizabeth Withers, No Regrets85. The Mynabirds, What We Lose in the Fire We Gain in the Flood86. Mob Rules, Radical Peace87. Yodo Gimi, 8:3088. Virginie Teychene, I Feel So Good89. Brandan Wright, Boiling Point90. V.A., A Little Night Music soundtrack 91. Dennis Rea, Views From Chicheng Precipice92. Locksley, Be in Love93. Bezobratri, Bezobrav94. Right the Stars, Right the Stars95. Playdate, Playdate96. Serena Maneesh, S-M 2: Abyss in B Minor97. Mighty Tiger, Western Theater98. Enter the Magical Mystery 36 Chambers mixtape99. Solution .45, For Aeons Past100. Shearwater, The Golden Archipelago
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, we overlap on two albums. Not bad. Of course, I only have a list of seventeen (but that's a really lengthy EOY list for me).
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
American Songwriter top 50:
1.Black Keys – Brothers2.Mumford and Sons- Sigh No More3.Dylan LeBlanc – Pauper’s Field4.Jamey Johnson – The Guitar Song5.Yeasayer – Odd Blood6.Robert Plant – Band Of Joy7. Phosphorescent - Here’s To Taking It Easy8. Neil Young – Le Noise9. Arcade Fire – The Suburbs10. Laura Veirs – July Flame11. MGMT – Congratulations12. Taylor Swift – Speak Now13. Elizabeth Cook – Welder14. Elvis Costello – National Ransom15. Punch Brothers – Antifogmatic16. John Mellencamp – No Better Than This17. Zac Brown Band – You Get What You Give18. Old 97’s – The Grand Theatre Volume 119. Kings Of Leon – Come Around Sundown20. Bonnie Prince Billy – The Wonder Show of the World21, Sufjan Stevens – The Age of Adz22. Junip – Fields23. Superchunk – Majesty Shredding24. Laura Marling – I Speak Because I Can25. Midlake – The Courage Of Others26. Vampire Weekend – Contra27. Justin Townes Earle – Harlem River Blues28. Damien Jurado - Saint Bartlett29. Lightspeed Champion – Life is Sweet! Nice To Meet You30. Warpaint – The Fool31. William Tyler - Behold The Spirit32. Johnny Flynn – Been Listening33. Mount Eerie – Song Islands Vol. 234. The Preservation Hall Jazz Band – Preservation Hall: An Album To Benefit Preservation Hall35. The Dead Weather - Sea Of Cowards36. Jenny & Johnny – I’m Having Fun Now37. Thee Oh Sees - Warm Slime38. Chromeo - Business Casual39. Caribou – Swim40. Beach House - Teen Dream41. Jim Lauderdale – Patchwork River42. Local Natives – Gorilla Manor43. Joanna Newsom – Have One On Me44. Ty Segall – Melted45. Black Angels – Phosphene Dream46. Dr. Dog – Shame, Shame47. Javelin – No Mas48. Lissie – Catching A Tiger49. Patty Griffin – Downtown Church50. Sun Kil Moon – Admiral Fell Promises
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Caucasian-American Songwriter, amirite?
― The Reverend, Sunday, 26 December 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Matt: Das Racist, homeboy?
― The Reverend, Saturday, December 25, 2010 6:29 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark
c'mon their #1 album is by the black keys!
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 26 December 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe the Chromeo guys can teach R. Kelly a thing or two.
― Andy K, Sunday, 26 December 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Rev: you cot damn rite I like the Das Racist stuff; they are funny and good at freestyling and they dropped a reference to my favorite Mexican crime novelist so I fell in love with them immediately. Plus, their albums were free; I would have gotten into lots of cooler hip-hop like all you guys around here but I don't download commercial albums w/out paying, and for some reason Waka Flocka Flame never got down to $9.99 at Target, which is unfortunately the basis for a lot of my musical buying decisions.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Most good hiphop isn't commercially released these days and is only available for free download so not a good excuse imo.
― in my world of yung joc (The Reverend), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay you got me. Good job dude you win.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
You been told.
― in my world of yung joc (The Reverend), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah but like usual I probably ain't gonna listen.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
gotta stand up for those major labels
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
RJG: There were a lot of factors behind me having to amp down my music internet coverage this year, including death of laptop. Also, feeling about hip-hop these days like it sounds like you're feeling about R&B.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
death of laptop affected me this year too :/
what's up with the cave btw?
― in my world of yung joc (The Reverend), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Had to shut down the Cave, due to job stuff and life stuff and the fact that we were about the only people who read the damn thing. Damn shame, too, it was fun. But c'est le guerre.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
:(
Also, feeling about hip-hop these days like it sounds like you're feeling about R&B.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Saturday, December 25, 2010 5:44 PM Bookmark
I've been way happier with rap this year than I have been in a few tbh.
― in my world of yung joc (The Reverend), Sunday, 26 December 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
matt cib did u check the youtube playlist i madei would think youd dig some of it
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Sunday, 26 December 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
deej i am very interested in your youtube playlist, when I get a new laptop and some actual time I will watch all these things.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link
for some reason Waka Flocka Flame never got down to $9.99 at Target, which is unfortunately the basis for a lot of my musical buying decisions.
shit's been $9.99 on amazon since release day (+ no tax in many states)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 26 December 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
you make a valid point, but if you knew how much i spent on music this year you would be like 0_0. in general though i don't buy music on amazon unless it's obscure brazilian shit i can't find anywhere else. i'm actually more embarrassed about the lack of south american and african and mexican music on my list than the lack of u.s. hip-hop.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 26 December 2010 04:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Serious question: Is there anything approaching a general-consensus hip-hop critics' poll?
― slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blog.afropop.org/2010/12/top-10-african-compilations.html
Afropop Worldwide's top 10 African compilations for the year. That 18 cd "Africa:50 Years of Music" one is number one.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
xp not that i know of, and if so i prob wouldn't wanna read it
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
passion of the weiss did a decade poll a year or so ago
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, and his jury was clearly made up of indie-rock cornballz
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
right
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Matt, you know I love you but this:
they dropped a reference to my favorite Mexican crime novelist so I fell in love with them immediately
is like something that falls from the mouths of indie-dilletante strawmen that guys like me and deej construct on the daily
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
might as well post the passion of the weiss's top 50 hip-hop songs of 2010 list:
50. Celph Titled & Buckwild - “Fuckmaster Sex” 49. 5 0′ Clock Shadowboxers - “No Resolution” ft. Has Lo, Nico the Beast, Elucid48. L.E.P. Bogus Boys-”Going in for the Kill” 47. B.O.B. - “Bet I Bust” ft. T.I. & Playboy Tre 46. Dru Down ft. The Jacka - “Hellooo” 45. Gangrene – Chain Swinging 44. Fat Joe f/ Young Jeezy “Ha Ha (Slow Down)” 43. Blu ft. U-God - “Keep It Going” 42. Black Hippy - Zip That, Chop That 41. Intuition - “Al Bundy” 40. Ludacris - “How Low” 39. Smoke DZA ft. Curren$y & Big K.R.I.T. - “Etc Etc” 38. Co$$ - “Fake Kings” [37. Shad - “Rose Garden” 36. Mistah F.A.B. - “Ungrateful” 35. Killer Mike - “Swimming” 34. Method Man + Raekwon + Ghostface - “Pimpin Chipp” 33. Earl Sweatshirt - “Earl” 32. Homeboy Sandman - “The Carpenter” 31. The Roots – “How I Got Over” 30. Lloyd Banks ft. Juelz Santana - “Beamer, Benz, or Bentley” 29. DJ Quik & Suga Free - “Nobody” 28. Open Mike Eagle ft. Nocando - “Unapologetic” 27. The Funk League ft. Large Professor - “Through Good & Bad” 26. Twista – “The Heat ft Raekwon” 25. Grimace Federation “Bosico (Aesop Rock Remix)” 24. Big K.R.I.T. - “Hometown Hero” 23. E-40 ft. Too Short & 50 Cent - “Bitch” 22. Freeway & Jake One - “African Drums”21. Shabazz Palaces “32 Leaves Dipped in Blackness Making Clouds Forming Altered Carbon” 20. Vado - “Large in the Streets” 19. J Cole - “Who Dat”18. Soulja Boy - “Speakers Going Hammer” 17. Nocando - “Hurry Up and Wait” 16. The Knux - “Medusa (Let’s Get Stoned)” 15. G-Side ft. 6 Tre & Codie G - “Feel The” 14. 13. Tyler, the Creator - “Bastard” 12. Black Milk ft. Danny Brown - “Black & Brown” 11. Waka Flaka Flame - “Hard in the Paint” 10. Rick Ross ft Styles P – B.M.F 09. Das Racist ft. El-P - “Sit Down, Man” 08. Jay Electronica - “Shiny Suit Theory ft. Jay-Z” 07. Danny Brown - “Nowhere 2 Go” 06. Freddie Gibbs - “The Ghetto” 05. Roc Marciano - “Scarface N**ga” 04. Curren$y – “King Kong” 03. Big Boi - “Shutterbugg” 02. Kanye West ft. John Legend - “Blame Game” 01. Yelawolf - “Looking for Alien Love”
http://passionweiss.com/2010/12/16/the-50-best-hip-hop-songs-of-2010-50-26/
― prolego, Sunday, 26 December 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
that is one random ass yelawolf song
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 26 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
that's a solid list
that's my favorite krit song too!
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
props on "bitch" too
Bitch is hands down the worst song on that entire album
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
not at all. ban
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Sunday, 26 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
the list is pretty decent & totally in line w/ potw writers, but the writing is hella lazy
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 26 December 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
also this re: "who dat" is hilarious
Probably the most straightforwardly lyrical single to drop on major label since “A Milli.”