i haven't been able to check out anything new in the month of december at all :/ fucking dead laptop
― The Reverend, Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)
I was amazed to hear that some company were able to vastly increase its sales of some shitey vodka to African Americans, merely by getting Puff Diddy to endorse it.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 23 December 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)
so basically you were amazed by the concept of endorsements?
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 23 December 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)
sounds like he perceives a lack of discernment in the african american community
trying to find the appropriate gif ....
― classic fat joe face (deej), Thursday, 23 December 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
that ciara/diddy dirty money/jazmine sullivan all released pretty amazing albums in the final stretch really shows up the concurrent kanye love
I have a really hard time calling the Diddy album "amazing". Its way better than I expected, but still falling short of Kanye's or even being among the best of the year (full disclosure: Kanye isn't going to make my top ten either). And I'm really having a hard time hearing what you guys are hearing in that Jazmine Sullivan. I love "Holding You Down", but the other three tracks I've heard just aren't exciting me.
Anyway, what I wanted to say that I think we can blame publications with early due dates just as much as we want to blame the critics for not giving these albums love. Also, I'm far from getting any of this mainstream rap/R&B promo stuff, how are they about sending out advances?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 December 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
am i imagining it when he says "let's end this charade" but pronounces it "Sade"?!
― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
it's stronger than pride
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)
sort of feel like whether you prefer this to kanye is about as good a 2010 litmus test as we're gonna get
― james fondleboy (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
I think another interesting discussion to be had about the two albums is the insular vs collaborative nature. We may have already touched on this somewhere, but too much shit to wade through to find it. I mean, both feature tons of guest stars, but Kanye's is one very singular vision while Diddy's, while the whole vibe is very focused, feels like so many different minds being thrown into it. My thoughts aren't really clear yet on which I prefer, but I find it interesting to think about.
Maybe the wrong thread for this, don't want to start a whole new one, but have you guys heard that new David Banner? The cover art alone makes it look like it might share some ideas with this Diddy thing.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
it doesn't
― sisilafami, Thursday, 23 December 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
okay, insightful
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 December 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)
shit had no idea "change" a) wasn't on the album and b) was a terius job. love that one - no idea how it could have been left out, seems essential
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 December 2010 04:13 (fifteen years ago)
alright now that i think of it it seems sort of terius in an idiosyncratic way - according to wiki, this is a tricky joint - what are some reference points for this? i'm sort of blanking
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2010 04:46 (fifteen years ago)
dont' say "sorry" btw
ugh apologize in advace for the following 25 terius posts u_u
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2010 04:47 (fifteen years ago)
"Change" is on the deluxe edition (which is better than the undeluxe edition)
― ok (Tape Store), Sunday, 26 December 2010 05:21 (fifteen years ago)
"loving you no more" remix ft t-pain & gucci manehttp://hulkshare.com/mnwys2may4wy
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)
i think i've gotten to the point where, also counting "ass on the floor" and "i know", i love basically every song that's not tagged as "ft. [somebody]" and am gradually but surely working my way into the rest
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:27 (fifteen years ago)
oh ok forgot about that first brown joint and also "yeah yeah you would", love those too
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)
i keep skipping the middle part of this but that's just because i love "last night pt 2", "i know", and "change" so much and just want to get to them
who the hell decided to cut "last night pt 2" and "change" from the album proper i wanna know
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)
chris brown's last verse on "i know" is secretly one of the best on this whole album
"change" sucks
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)
^truth bomb
― nog it out with (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)
"lsat night pt 2" is great but i'm not sure it would fit into the album -- it's like "veteran" on love king or something -- i get why it was left off, the fact that it exists is enough
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)
LSAT night
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:34 (fifteen years ago)
if i skip any songs on the album it's the last two
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)
"LSAT night" is like a vampire weekend title
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)
"i know" -> "coming home" is a great 1-2 -- also "coming home" probably has diddy's best performance on the album
― a snooki and a killer (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
btw k3v "change" reminds me of "mama"
― dayo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)
this is actually quite cool.
― O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Friday, 31 December 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)
i've been (mis)hearing this line in the second verse of 'yeah yeah you would' as "didn't want to be your mistress / but now i'm too proud of it" which i've loved as 2010's answer to "thought i wouldn't really give a fuck / but now a bitch all in love". was kinda bummed when i realized that's not what the lyric actually is
― k3vin k., Friday, 31 December 2010 05:34 (fifteen years ago)
Sad state of the homogeneity of Young Money,but I mistook Lil Wayne for his wannabe Drake on two tracks on this until I read the label!
― O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)
<3 this album btw
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Friday, 31 December 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)
I like it a lot too. I am no Diddy fan and prefer the new Kanye, but sonically this sucker's all over the map, in a good way. An album for people who like sounds yo
― O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Friday, 31 December 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)
YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YOU WOULD
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 31 December 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)
ok I went from liking this a lot to loving it. "Yeah Yeah You Would" and "Looking for Love" are my favs. i love the sterile nature of the latter.
― O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:04 (fifteen years ago)
shit man the last minute of "hate you now" just pops off
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 3 January 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
man, i really like this album, but "change" is just not very good. underwhelming considering the creative minds involved.
― swvl, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:19 (fifteen years ago)
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"I hear 'Tears of a Clown'...I hate that song!" never ceases to crack me up
― washa flocka brain (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:22 (fifteen years ago)
this really is a p good album huh
i ended up pnjing it btw
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:11 (fifteen years ago)
it really is sort of incredible
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:12 (fifteen years ago)
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lol yeah, but I actually love it because it sounds sincere instead of some of his ghostwritten stuff
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:14 (fifteen years ago)
the whole song is like "diddy ponders some deep thoughts"
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
was my #3 album
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
i do feel like pretty much every song on this album really does open up w/ repeated listens [...]
― ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 13, 2010 5:34 PM (3 weeks ago)
this is true for me too - originally i liked the first run of songs and then a few at the end, but almost every song has some really rewarding nugget buried that you don't appreciate until you've heard it a few times - i mean the first half of "strobe lights" is pretty useless for me but then that last minute is just killer, then there's the last minute of "hate you now", which took couple of listens for me to realize how incredible that changeup really is. and those gorgeous layers of vocals on "ass on the floor", even the very end of "your love" (probably the worst song on the album), but i'm a sucker for those chipmunk vocals. the back part of the album, which is i think pretty clearly the inferior half (especially if you don't have the deluxe!!) contains i think diddy's best rapping on the record, so that picks up some of the slack.
i'd be kind of interested to see everyone's poiii from this album
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:23 (fifteen years ago)
def an album that really takes a few, I always liked it but it was more a 'oh gee that's nice' type feel after the first two listens, and I didn't appreciate the density until about the third or fourth listen (especially the first time played in hte car)
― those balls look like a butt (San Te), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:25 (fifteen years ago)
you are all suckers, I understood its genius before I even clicked the download link
― dayo, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:27 (fifteen years ago)
My number two album of the year but might end up number one if I keep enjoying it so much. "ass on the floor" is about as good as music can be.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 07:42 (fifteen years ago)
originally i liked the first run of songs and then a few at the end, but almost every song has some really rewarding nugget buried that you don't appreciate until you've heard it a few times
yeah - i really think this is a function of how frenetic the whole thing is, even when it's meditative, how many voices there are passing the narrative around and how many sonic change-ups there are beneath them - and yet the whole coheres so easily into really enjoyable club r&b.
i almost can't pick a top 3 yet because it flows so easily - maybe "yeah yeah you would", "i hate that you love me", "shades"?
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 07:59 (fifteen years ago)
agree that "change" isn't great - v.amusing to remember how terius was all like "i've done this song that's BETTER THAN UMBRELLA" a couple of years ago (jesus that's how long it's taken for this album to get off the ground)
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 08:00 (fifteen years ago)