speaking of Stones Throw, is no one else following the Madlib CD series on Stones Throw this year??? not one mention anyplace.
http://blog.allmusic.com/2010/12/15/allmusic-loves-2010/
http://blog.allmusic.com/2010/12/15/allmusics-favorite-reggae-albums-of-2010/
http://blog.allmusic.com/2010/12/14/allmusics-favorite-world-albums-of-2010/
― Andy K, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
OH MAN
*spends rest of workday getting lost in AMG writers' individual lists*
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
your list is awesome Andy!
― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was about to say if there's one list i most look forward to seeing it's andy's
you still slept on jeremih tho!
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
deej props for putting "you neva know" at #1, that's in my top 5 too i think - haven't seen anybody talk about that one in a while
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
(Thanks, you guys.)
― Andy K, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Here are some lists by a bunch of political writers, in case you want to know what's blasting out of the speakers at Foreign Policy magazine or the Cato Institute:
http://gq.tumblr.com/post/2418770447/political-hacks-best-music-of-2010
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Dave Weigel, Reporter, Slate.com
* Rick Ross - Teflon Don
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
XD
― classic fat joe face (deej), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm sure i'm not the first to say this but i would not have predicted the emergence of "did it on em" as the consensus nicki minaj track on these list. in retrospect it kind of makes sense, but really?
― /\/K/\/\, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Charles Homans, Associate Editor, Foreign Policy
* Das Racist: Shut Up, Dude
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
it's all hip-hop/rap though!like, if someone puts out a year-end list that's 100% "in my world of white guitar ppl" we all lose our shitdeej's list is similarly zzzzzzzz, right?― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:46 (7 hours ago) Permalink
like, if someone puts out a year-end list that's 100% "in my world of white guitar ppl" we all lose our shit
deej's list is similarly zzzzzzzz, right?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:46 (7 hours ago) Permalink
ilxor, I think you and contenderizer are riding this whole anti-anti-indie steez too hard. No-one's gonna complain about a list of white guitar ppl that is called "best white guitar ppl of 2010". It's the short-circuit between white-guitar-ppl (and kanye) with "best music anywhere in the world" that gets negative reactions.
I hinted at this upthread but one of my favourite sets of lists are those done by juno, which are even more severely circumscribed e.g. "Best Electro-House Tracks of 2010" etc. - these are genuinely helpful, and actually focus the minds of the listmakers on what constitutes "best" within particular parameters (with particular barometers). It's all these "best albums of 2010" with the same 20 f***ing records that are much more zzzzzz IMO.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Alright, people probably would have a problem with the title "best white guitar ppl of 2010", but not because it's genre-specialist.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^lol
― classic fat joe face (deej), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― james fondleboy (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
It's the short-circuit between white-guitar-ppl (and kanye) with "best music anywhere in the world" that gets negative reactions.
i've never seen a yearly best-of list that really addresses the "best music anywhere in the world." all such lists are limited by the culture and broad genre boundaries from which they come ("western pop music" being an example of a broad genre boundary). it's a matter of how broad you claim your list to be in relation to how broad (or how narrow) it actually is.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
otoh, i'm not a critic, so maybe i'm not in a position to opine.
i've never seen a yearly best-of list that really addresses the "best music anywhere in the world."
Yes this is true in practice, but:
it's a matter of how broad you claim your list to be in relation to how broad (or how narrow) it actually is.
Right. Any list which states that it's a list of the "best albums of 2010" and includes at least a couple of albums by a couple of genres is implicitly saying that there are few if any formal restrictions on what can be included.
I much prefer a list which is formally constrained and, as a result, is more inventive, unusual or informative.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
cosign on the juno lists, btw. but i wish they'd have two extra filter categories, for "songs with buzzy, arcade effects" and "songs without buzzy, arcade effects"
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
They could rename those categories "overrated in 2010" and "underrated in 2010".
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
im sure there are ways to make interesting cross-genre lists -- but maybe these are just easier as radio formats ("quiet storm") or DJ genre constellations ("balearic") than critics lists
― classic fat joe face (deej), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ha!
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
(xp)
Yeah DJ constellation (or similar) round-ups can be the best because the very act of listing the songs together also performs that process of drawing the constellation in a way that doesn't exist for straight "best of" lists and isn't necessary for official genre lists.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
& obv 'personal lists' qualify that way too
― classic fat joe face (deej), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link
speaking of, i made a youtube playlist of the top 50 rap songz
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3FF03078C1191155
― classic fat joe face (deej), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
good job, more yt playlists already
― idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link
oh man... appreciate the sincere response. honestly i was bored at work (office is DEAD this time of year) & about 20 minutes into the day, posted a couple straight-up trolling posts on ilx to make my day a bit more interesting. was hoping for a good whiney/deej/j0rdan response or something fun. i don't actually believe any of what i wrote there ;)
i agree w/ you tim & also really like deej's list -- in fact, i said as much upthread:
i love everything i know from that list (about 20% of it, naturally) and am really thrilled w/ all the youtube links: that's one of my favorite year-end formats, when i can quickly click over and check out the stuff i haven't yet heard― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Alright sorry ilxor, I couldn't remember your prior posts when I saw the last one.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link
props to Andy K for including the Mathew Jonson album, that's the record i loved the most this year that hasn't been getting much list love
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 23 December 2010 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link
tim... no worries, & no need to apologize, no offense taken! i just saw yr response and was all O_O
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 23 December 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
ilxor, I think you and contenderizer are riding this whole anti-anti-indie steez too hard.
― Tim F, Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:03 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
hey, i don't think i've even made that point in this thread. not that i haven't made it elsewhere, but...
thing is, my eyes glaze over at relentless indieism, too. tried to get something out of those AMG lists, but if half your contributors stuff up their top 20s with some combo or variation on deerhunter/best coast/arcade fire/lcd soundsystem, then your definition of "allmusic" probably isn't broad enough to justify the name. otoh, lists composed entirely of equally obvious non-indie stuff are just as tedious. it's obviousness and impersonal pack-following timidity, rather than indieness per se, that i find most dispiriting.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure it's even timidity, more like people have limited time to listen to new albums, so they listen to the 50-100 most critically trumpeted albums in a given year, then spit out "personalized" lists that rank their favorite 10-20 of those 50-100 albums; it's just rather small pool of albums to begin with, though, so all the lists come out looking like variations on a theme
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link
not that i'm one to talk as my top 10 would include robyn, big boi, four tet, caribou, the-dream etc. etc.
pot kettle black etc.
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure if this counts as agreeing w tim, & even though this is in some ways the opposite of my own approach to listening to music, i would a hundred million percent rather read someone who focuses on a small number of tightly related genres & knows a lot about them & is consistent and discerning over some cosmopolitan dork overenthusiastically trying to capture some nonexistent zeitgeist who knows nothing. it's really interesting when you feel you understand someone's tastes, that you can see it as an aesthetic set, what makes a song functional or acceptable to them, it becomes possible to rediscover music & see if in a way totally foreign to you, & i think that's easiest to do if it's applied to a more limited range--although it can definitely stretch across genres if necessary
― flopson, Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link
everyone who is a cool music fan should listen to as many albums outside of the most critically trumpeted set as out, imo. big world &c
― flopson, Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i know the feeling. i bitch, but several obvious names are at least flirting with my ill-defined 2010 best list. no sin in that, but lists composed entirely of things found on everybody else's list are terribly depressing. i hope, as flopson says, for the expression of an interesting personal aesthetic.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
one thing i like to keep in mind is audience. like, to other ILXors and critics, no one really cares that robyn or flying lotus or curren$y or caribou is on a best of 2010 list. seen that shit a million times. but to, say, a friend who casually listens to top 40 radio and that's it, those could be brand new. and great discoveries. not to say best-of lists shouldn't also poke around less critically-lauded circles, or challenge popular perceptions, but not everyone is obsessed with music like a lot of us are. we're looking at these "terribly depressing" lists from a different perspective. i mean, someone else may see arcade fire on a 2010 list not knowing them, and love that shit. who knows!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, sure, it's all good, but i strive to believe, on some hippy-dippy level, that the truer you are to your own personal (and hopefully somewhat idiosyncratic) tastes, the more meaningful your expressions of those tastes will be to anyone who encounters them. even if they seem obscure, uncool, "weird" or whatever. that's something of an article of faith with me.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll second Karl on giving props to Andy K for including Mathew Jonson on his list. I have no idea why Agents of Time was so slept on bar that there was no interesting stories tell about the album, except quality.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Phonica's top 100 albums of 2010
100) Guido - Anidea99) Arp - The Soft Wave 98) Julian Lynch - Mare97) Moritz Von Oswald - Live In New York96) ANTHONY 'SHAKE' SHAKIR - Frictionalism95) COMMIX - Re:Call to Mind94) DANGERMOUSE & SPARKLEHORSE - Dark Night of the Soul93) MAGDA - From The Fallen Page92) RED RACK'EM - The Early Years91) LUKE ABBOTT - Holkham Drones90) JOHN GRANT - Queen Of Denmark89) OVAL - O88) DONATO DOZZY - K87) CONNAN MOCKASIN - Please Turn Me Into The Snat86) JUS ED - Next Level85) MAKAM - How Long Is Now?84) JEFF PHELPS - Magnetic Eyes83) EDWARD LARRY GORDON - Celestial Vibration 82) F - Energy Distortion81) DUCKTAILS / DRACULA LEWIS - Split80) WOLF + LAMB - Love Someone79) PETER GORDON & THE LOVE OF LIFE ORCHESTRA - Love Of Life Orchestra78) PAUL WHITE - Paul White & The Purple Brain77) HOT CHIP - One Life Stand76) THE HUNDRED IN THE HANDS - The Hundred In The Hands75) WALLS - Walls74) VOICE OF THE SEVEN THUNDERS - Voice Of The Seven Thunders73) CHILLY GONZALES - Ivory Tower72) SOLAR BEARS - She Was Coloured In71) SALEM - King Night70) AEROPLANE - We Can't Fly69) ORIOL - Night And Day68) MR G - Still Here67) ARP & ANTHONY MOORE - Frkways 366) ROBERT HOOD - Omega65) DEERHUNTER - Halcyon Digest64) TORO Y MOI - Causers Of This63) CHRIS CARTER - The Space Between 62) KONONO NO.1 - Assume Crash Position61) SHIT ROBOT - From The Cradle To The Rave 60) MIM SULEIMAN - Tungi 59) MATTHEW DEAR - Black City58) GAMES - That We Can Play57) DEMDIKE STARE - Voices of Dust 56) ARCADE FIRE - The Suburbs55) THE ALPS - Le Voyage54) COS/MES - Gozmez Land Chaosexotica53) TAME IMPALA - Innerspeaker 52) RECLOOSE - Early Works51) LCD SOUNDSYSTEM - This Is Happening50) CHARANJIT SINGH - Ten Ragas to a Disco Beat49) ERYKAH BADU - New Amerykah Part Two: Return Of The Ankh48) STL - STL And His Quest For Sound 47) SHACKLETON - Fabric 5546) DAM-FUNK - Adolescent Funk45) AUTECHRE - Oversteps44) JIMMY EDGAR - XXX 43) HEDZOLEH SOUNDZ - Hedzoleh42) STELLAR OM SOURCE - Trilogy Select 41) DARKSTAR - North40) MASSIVE ATTACK - Heligoland 39) WBEEZA - Void 38) ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITI - Before today 37) ALOE BLACC - Good Things36) DIGITAL MYSTIKZ - Return II Space35) SAN SODA - Immers & Daarentegen34) SUFJAN STEVENS - The Age Of Adz 33) PASTOR T.L.BARRETT & THE YOUTH FOR CHRIST CHOIR - Like A Ship (Without A Sail)32) LONE - Emerald Fantasy Tracks31) THEO PARRISH - Sketches 30) CFCF - Continent29) MARK MCGUIRE - Living With Yourself28) AARDVARCK - Choice 27) ESP INSTITUTE - Concentration Volume I CD (mixed by Lovefingers)26) BRIAN ENO - Small Craft on A Milk Sea25) URBAN TRIBE - Urban Tribe24) TEENGIRL FANTASY - 7 AM 23) ROLL THE DICE - Roll The Dice22) NICOLAS JAAR / VARIOUS ARTISTS - Ines21) GONJASUFI - A Sufi and a Killer20) SCUBA - Triangulation 19) MARK E - Mark E Works 2005 - 2009 Selected Tracks & Edits 18) EMERALDS - Does It Look Like I'm Here? 17) FLYING LOTUS - Cosmogramma16) GIL SCOTT-HERON - I'm New Here 15) PANTHA DU PRINCE - Black Noise 14) MOTOR CITY DRUM ENSEMBLE - Raw Cuts Vol. 1 13) MOUNT KIMBIE - Crooks & Lovers 12) GOLD PANDA - Lucky Shiner 11) SEAHAWKS - Ocean Trippin' 10) ONRA - Long Distance09) FOUR TET - There Is Love In You08) JOHN ROBERTS - Glass Eights 07) MAXMILLION DUNBAR - Cool Water06) ACTRESS - Splazsh05) ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER - Returnal 04) FOREST SWORDS - Dagger Paths03) CARIBOU - Swim + Swim Remixes02) VIRGO - Virgo 01) SHED - The Traveller
― Jedmond, Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Must say I'm glad they mentioned Roll the Dice, Mim Suleiman's Tungi, and Oriol's Night and Day. Tungi is bubbling Fulton-produced goodness, while Night and Day contrasts the sharp cuts of something like the Soft Pink Truth's Promofunk against the hazy blurred discoid glow of the Avalanches. Wally Badarou looks on approvingly.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Boomkat end-of-year charts:
http://www.boomkat.com/charts.cfm
― O Permaban (NickB), Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link
LOTS of different lists from various Boomkat types btw.
― O Permaban (NickB), Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Looks like it's brought down their entire site now though - including the shop - so good work.
― O Permaban (NickB), Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link
It was an impressive line up though, a pity it was for only ten seconds or so.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link
thing is, my eyes glaze over at relentless indieism, too. tried to get something out of those AMG lists, but if half your contributors stuff up their top 20s with some combo or variation on deerhunter/best coast/arcade fire/lcd soundsystem, then your definition of "allmusic" probably isn't broad enough to justify the name.
Those lists are from the willing editors and staff writers. Several people in the department -- some of whom specialize in something other than rock -- don't make year-end lists. I would love to incorporate lists from the dozens of active freelancers who cover everything else, but when it comes to year-end features, we are barely able to justify the time we spend on what we put together. (If you want a broader range of picks, check the genre/style posts. Most of the editors/writers who didn't make personal lists contributed to them.)
― Andy K, Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Kiran Sand of Blackest Ever Black has a strong look.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 23 December 2010 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blackesteverblack.blogspot.com/
― O Permaban (NickB), Thursday, 23 December 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh yeah that boomkat and friends best of 2010 is awesome. All this stuff around the Raime post satanic techno industrial thing looks extremely interesting!
― Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Thursday, 23 December 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link