Is Everybody Who Edits the Village Voice Really This Stupid?

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OMG! Best thread ever!

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Boards Of Canada are pro-narcolepsy. i dunno about there love for rock.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You're nibbling the bait while trying not to spring the trap, my VV-associated friend.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Small Wonder pictures! Twice!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard that Boards of Canada record "Music Has the Right to blah" for the first time a few weeks ago, it was one of those I'd missed somehow. It's pretty great.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this thread about that AC/DC album that Drag City is putting out in 2005?!

― Carl Winslow is WHAT!?!? (deangulberry), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Boards of Canada have the same initials as Blue Oyster Cult, Scott!!

Otherwise, um...I think I liked some album on Drag City a lot this year, but I can't think of what it was. (Did this year's Ghost one come out on Drag City? That was nice.) My Rock-Hating Label of the Year Award, though, would possibly go to Temporary Residence, for its sheer consistency in putting on truly beyoooooootiful elevator noise which I could read books and wash the dishes and then fall asleep to.

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

mmmm, temporary residence. my label of the year. did you like the Cex reissue they put out, chuck? that might have been their most rocking release.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually thought the label was going to slowly die until the Joanna Newsom disc hit big. The new splash page for the DC announces "Superwolf," a collaboration between Matt Sweeney and Bonnie Prince Billy. I have my doubts, to be honest, but I'll give it a listen.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Otherwise, um...I think I liked some album on Drag City a lot this year, but I can't think of what it was.

chuck, do you realize that this reads like self-parody?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

(and if it's true it's pathetic.)

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(or it could be alzheimer's.)

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

― Carl Winslow is WHAT!?!? (deangulberry), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I think it's time to mention the Small Wonder pictures again.

Next BOC release: Don't Fear the Tinky-Winky 12"
(someone do better than this, please)

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ Kamandi to thread!

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I think it's time to mention the Small Wonder pictures again.

Yowsa!

Also, nothing wrong with falling asleep music; then again I have fallen asleep at some extremely loud shows before.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, this is the thread where i outed chuck as a Flip-Flopper. ah good times.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost:
I seem to recall some episode of the old Dick Van Dyke show where he was in trouble because he went AWOL or missed his wedding or something and his alibi depended on his having slept through The Guns Of Navarone, which nobody believes (because apparently they think the guns are blasting throughout the whole movie, when in reality there is probably 85 minutes of strategizing and five minutes of blasting?)

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i fell asleep in black hawk down AND first blood so i can relate.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I fall asleep a lot at movies I like, it just shows that I am relaxed.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I fell asleep at a No Means No show once, but only during the opening acts. (One of which I think may have been Sister Double Happiness, so maybe it was an MSG-related nap.)

I also fell asleep during my one and only visit to CBGBs, to see Camper Van Beethoven, of all bands. How not punk is that?

But by all means, proceed.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Everybody Who Posts to This Thread Really This Sleepy?

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I had fallen asleep when I saw Camper Van Beethoven.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Then I would have missed it.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Sleep to thread!

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It was something like a defense mechanism, I do believe. Thank god for natural reflexes.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i fell asleep at a straightedge hardcore show in brewster, new york after having my wrist broken in 3 places by a big straightedge sneaker. actually, i might have passed out. the rumplemintz was flowing. I was neither "bold" nor "aware". hahaha, i think that's who was playing. but what do i know. all those muscley little fellas looked the same to me.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sleepy. i'm going to bed. i'm gonna read a little Peter DeVries and then hit the hay. I have to take a driving test tomorrow! I want to be snappy in the morning!

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this was the best thread ever till I read this:

chuck, do you realize that this reads like self-parody?

-- Amateur(ist) ([email protected]), January 4th, 2005.

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(and if it's true it's pathetic.)
-- Amateur(ist) ([email protected]), January 4th, 2005.

now I REALLY think it is!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

if only dave q were here to save us from the horror.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know, as per the pickle bar thread, i think it's dubious to say you really liked something you purposely played (presumably several times) and have no recollection of what it is. and it's suspicious when stories like that get told over and over and over again, like the author takes some pride in his indifference. it's so "real"!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:02 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck eddy, you stand accused of severe incompetence both in life and in your chosen career.

― Carl Winslow is WHAT!?!? (deangulberry), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread has made me love Amateur(ist) even more than i used to.

― t0dd swiss, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Royal Trux?
Ghost?
Weird War?
Vocokesh?
The Nig-Heist?
WTF?

― Nanker Phelge, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know, as per the pickle bar thread, i think it's dubious to say you really liked something you purposely played (presumably several times) and have no recollection of what it is.

especially when he follows it by saying what it was (Ghost)!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

My Rock-Hating Label of the Year Award, though, would possibly go to Temporary Residence, for its sheer consistency in putting on truly beyoooooootiful elevator noise which I could read books and wash the dishes and then fall asleep to.

now chuck that's gonna just get you in bigger trouble, as the guy who runs that label is a close friend of mine.

(yeah, most of what he puts out ain't rock by any stretch, but the dude is majorly into some good rock stuff, I can vouch for it.)

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

but he likes the label!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, sure.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

especially when he follows it by saying what it was (Ghost)!

-- Matos W.K. (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), January 4th, 2005 8:05 AM. (M Matos) (link)

but he made a point of saying that at first he didn't remember! and it's not clear if the ghost album he mentions is the same one he was struggling to remember. even if it were, he could have simply written, "you know what, i liked the last ghost album on drag city."

obviously this wouldn't be an issue at all--i'm sure i've done the "i can't remember what it was" thing some times--if chuck didn't make such a habit of it (for evidence, see aforementioned pickle bar thread). it's not even a big issue anyway, i was just pointing out what i thought: that it's beginning to resemble self-parody. and (IMO) it's unbecoming a professional critic to repeatedly insist upon not remembering the music he's paid to review.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

which slides into a larger possible-point about the sheer volume of music chuck apparently takes it upon himself to listen and pass judgement on has a deleterious effect on the quality of his criticism. (this is not unique to chuck obv.)

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

man this thread really didn't need to be revived.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

that's very true

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

who are the most thread-hating posters can be the new question

― andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the kids just wanna rock. thank you jeebus for sending rock rock rock rock rock and roll critics to tell them in the village voice what does rock and what doesn't. i know the kids love the voice. lots of kids, sure, 'tho none under the age of 39 ever look at it. 's ok, 'tho, cause if they did, they'd know what rocks and what(does)not, etc. so, so what? no kids under the age of 39 look at ilm either. kids are so smart nowadays. i wish i woulda been like that back in the day, wasting all that time that i did, thinking 'bout the vicissitudes of rock.... ruminating on rockism and pop. look where it got me. i guess where i am now.

maybe it really is existential devil's music, after all.

still, that poster who said in 2003 that the royal trux question hadn't been properly addressed was right. besides, i think the howling hex rocks. fortunately, they do more than merely that. 'transmaniacon' rocks but in a shitty way. (shitty rock records tend toward shitty rocking, don't they?) but it's neither here nor there. even so ... it's a bit like complaining in 1971 that harvest records "doesn't rock". drag city somehow reminds me a lot of harvest in its heyday. but who cares? no one reads internet posts on threads no one wants revived.

― Victory Chimp, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

you read it. and, come to think of it, so did i!

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Other labels that don't rock:
Rounder
Deutsche Grammophone
Blue Note

er, can't remember this thread and can't say much abt rounder and blue note. the latter is very up and down from the handful of releases I've got from it but Deustche grammophone were a great great label. Like I always see some of the old LPs in second hand shops and snap them up and its always wonderful in terms of artwork, notes, and the sounds but I do enjoy much classical music post-50s. There is no doubt they are sitting on some unissued stuff (you can get a cpl of kagel LPs he released on the label as mp3s on UBU web - go check).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm afraid i think chelsea will win the title

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The new splash page for the DC announces "Superwolf," a collaboration between Matt Sweeney and Bonnie Prince Billy. I have my doubts, to be honest, but I'll give it a listen.

What I've heard hasn't been great, but I gave up on Oldham after Arise Therefor and never liked Chavez. I do recall someone on this board saying that a band name involving Wolf is to 2004 what Super was to bands in 1992, so I like the name.

― Vic Funk, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm afraid i think chelsea will win the title
-- charltonlido (...), January 4th, 2005.

do remember that they haven't had a bad run yet every team has one.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I should like to point out that, while this charming thread went sleepy-shit-pie, the Village Voice published (yet another) favroable mention of The Suntanama, carefully entwined within my roundup of conceptualist combos, yclept "You Can't Catch Me." And also published (yet another) favorable mention of Ghost's HYPNOTIC UNDERWORLD, within Mr. Scott Seward's review, the title of which I forget, even though I am not an editor. And even though I am a poster on ILM, that greeny and happy land where no one ever forgets anything, especially charming threads like this.

― don, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

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