Von Sudenfed - Tromatic Reflexxions

Fucking hell, that video is the most Classickest thing I've seen all year.

Yeah I want every single person who likes the manufactured freaking idiot pop diva shite that passes for music nowadays to watch that video. They're making fun of the whole ridiculous media farce!

oh my god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSABYdYcszs

Finally listening to it here. Great stuff, frothy even.

wanko: wtf is that?

just some dude making funny i guess

Yeah, that guy's voice was really annoying.

On Saturday - driving up to Newcastle - I finally got into Rhinohead - took me a while though.

I love the cover art. It makes me think of the decor in a crap 70s hairdressers. In a parallel universe where MES and Mouse on Mars were hair product models.

this is pretty rad.

the second MoM on the cover looks uncannily like an ex of mine.

God, I've been reading this as "Von Sudafed" since the beginning, and am hugely disappointed to discover my error.

I've been reading this as "Von Sudafed" since the beginning

The similarity is intentional.

Suden = South in German... does Suden + Fed add up to some kind of pun? Southern ____?

fed

'südenfeld' means southern field... if theres a pun there, i dont get it

I think one of the Mouse On Mars guys is from a town called Suden or Sudenfeld and MES though of Sudafed and there you go.

The Suden Will Rise Again

Loving Von Südenfed right now, this stuff slays. Particularly the track "That Sound Wiped", take a second listen if you didn't get into it right away. Marky Smith is godhead.

That song is very extremely good.

You don't look like no goddamned singer-songwriter to me

i've got this playing on repeat all night

I had to ... modify the chicken

Can't MES forget about his squad rotation system and draft the MoM boys as the latest version of The Fall for a few more albums-uh?

That or have MES join MoM. Or forget both and go under the Von Sudenfed banner forever. Because it's FUCKING WUNDERBAR.

No laptop wankers overground
With Fall sound

Taking sides - this vs the new Happy Mondays LP.

howsit?

southall, even without having heard either i can confidently describe that as one of the most potentially one-sided TSs in the history of ILX

yeah, just check th monday's promo, and it sounds like crap beer ad music

Both are aged Mancunians babbling over 'dance' 'music'.

I propose we add Section 25's new album to this Mancunian 2007 game. Whereas I just can't quite get really interested in the new Happy Mondays, the new Section 25 is pretty damn good.

But Von Sudenfed trumps all, I think.

Although...maybe Grimly Fiendish will get on me for this. Section 25 are actually from Blackpool. Sorry.

In any case "I am the DJ tonight".

Not a bad candidate for album of the year. I salute Mr. M.E.S.

It is really nice but has a bit of filler. For this decade's output from MES I've been dropping about half the tracks from each album to wind up with a much stronger set of songs. From VS I chose:
Fledermaus
Rhinohead
Family Fued
Duckrog
Chicken Yaiamas
That Sound Wiped
Dearest Friends

Am going to see them at Heaven tonight! With ledge. Can't wait. Anyone else going to be there? Just got an email from EYOE trying to offload cheap tickets, so it clearly hasn't sold out.

JEALOUS

Yes.

This sucker has been sitting underneath a pile of my CD's and I only recently uncovered it.

Who are XX Teens (they're supporting)? I'm semi-tempted to go to this, I could get there in 45 mins...

XX Teens were awful. And Von Sudenfed were a shambles! Maybe they jsut hadn't rehearsed at all. MoM were playing very different, remixed verions of most of the tracks, which unfortunately seemed to result in MES never being sure which song he was meant to be singing! He spent the first chunk of the show with his back to us, shuffling through (and regularly dropping) a huge pile of lyric sheets, and mumbling and/or shouting various lines from various songs. About halfway through he muttered something about not being able to stand being on stage, and wandered off into the wings, where he stayed for a song and a half (although he still sang occasional lines from there). Then the track (whichever it was, I couldn't keep up either) ended and he said the only really intelligible thing he said all night: "no trumpinnnnnnnng....no fartinnnnnnnng....it's london!".

And things just got weirder from there on. He carried on wandering on and off stage. He'd occasionally go around behind MoM's dask and reach over to petulantly twiddle a knob or two. He gave his mic to a guy on the front row (who admirably carried on ranting into it for the next few minutes) while he did another vanishing act. It was all round one of the strangest shows I've ever seen. And I said to Tom as we were leaving that if I'd never seen The Fall before, I'd probably just assume that's what he was always like. But I have, many times, and he's always been great before!

I guess he was still great though, in a way. I'm definitely glad I was there to see it.

(Oh, and the other support band were FANTASTIC! Chrome Hoof. My new favourites).

MoM themselves were pretty awesome. V loud - almost too loud. V hardcore - almost too hardcore. Verging on noise at some points. Maybe I'm gettin old.

I went in the end. Agree with above - MoM were awesome, MES was all over the place. Seemed to have microphone problems as well as the not knowing which song he was supposed to be mumbling over.

I thought the XX Teens were OK, assuming they were the band that was playing when I arrived. And the DJ between them and Von Sudenfed was playing cool stuff.

Is it just the two MoM guys, or do they have someone drumming? I think I'd really like seeing just the two of them on tour, MES or not.

Great gig report, JimD!

I really recognise the "he sucks, but he's great!" from trying to explain MES to other people who never heard of him.

Mouse on Mars. Like Tromatic Reflexxions but no MES... Still fucking great!

SWEEEEEET REVIVE!

god this album rules

this is dope

yeah!!!! REVIVE THIS THREAD! Lovely! LJ, I don't care about the haterz, you are a cool dude, and I'll back you up til the end.

being up at 3.30 am is not the zenith of cool tbh but this music is kinda keeping me awake...amazing it's taken this long for it to click

Yeah, dude. I'm with you. No doubt about it. Just gotta rip it to my iTunes and I'm set. Hold on...

The Rhinohead is, like, SO SO SO good.

I FLOODED THE CLUB!

Name aside, this record is great to listen to when you're sick. I had a bastard of a cold around this time last year and it was just what I needed.

I been in mah gar-den
I just kept sing-ing

Fuck, why haven't they made another one of these?

because the first one's perfect! why ruin a great legacy?

I see ur point, but I'm greedy.

I FLUH-DUD THE CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!

Alarming how many Fall fans I've talked to who have never heard this! Like two. But that's two too many.

Was listening to this yesterday as well! Marvellous album, so much fun and invention. Had a fluhdid the club moment on the train home. Periodically suggestions rise that they'll do another one surface, but I'm not sure Smith will consider it unless he's strapped for cash.

If he was strapped for cash, he'd make another fall album, surely?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think a lot of the collaborative stuff, and indeed Fall repackaging stuff, as well as more or less constant touring, is partly driven by this (speculation on my part, but fairly strongly felt). The MoM collaboration was both high-profile and successful and MoM have said they'd be happy to work with him again.

God, this is fucking great.

But I mean it's Mouse on Mars so what do you expect

No, it's Mark E Smith, what do you expect.

MoM are incredibly good live. Von Sud live would be great, did they tour this?

I've been waiting for Mouse on Mars to come back to the states again for, like, 7 years. At this point they are the band I most want to see live right now. Well, "at this point" has pretty much been the past 7 years.

Von Sud live would be great, did they tour this?

I saw them perform with it twice, the first at.. Fabric was it? which was good (v good Fledermaus Can't Get It). And Heaven, which was absolutely fantastic. Extremely memorable. Even the security stewards were grinning at one point. There are recordings I believe.

Was that the one were he kept on distractedly wandering off the stage? And it was also insanely loud? It was an experience, certainly.

Hmmm, he did go off stage a bit, but I guess I'm used to that (he often likes to sing behind the amps I think). We're probably talking about the same one, as the Fabric one was rather less chaotic iirc.

I saw them perform with it twice

Not sure we should refer to Mark as "it". ;-)

Mark E Smith, yesterday

http://www.dailyinfo.co.uk/images/cinema/sammy.jpg

'...I ended up in the 1860s. I been there for 125 years.'

-ah."

Iiii was in mah gaaaaaarden, iii just kept siiiiiiiiiiinginnnnng

yamayamayamayamayamayama

Iiii was in mah gaaaaaarden, iii just kept siiiiiiiiiiinginnnnng

― yuoowemeone, Friday, 12 March 2021 08:05 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

such an anthem

i was the DJ tonight, the other DJ pissed the bed.

i spent the past week listening to 'flooded' on repeat, and i can't get over how hilarious the concept is. since there's no printed lyrics, i found myself wondering the words past the above lines. i got so far as realizing that it's essentially a (presumably) fictional vignette of mark having a barney with an events manager over who 'booked the club', while sven väth - a popular german DJ - argues that he was in fact the disc jockey of the evening; mark then berates sven väth for requiring a rubber sheet for his set ("he pissed the bed").

not to insult anyone's intelligence at all or anything, especially not ilxors, but i really do feel like mark's storytelling is overlooked sometimes... this track is exemplary penmanship of his to me - it takes you a while to decipher what he's banging on about, but when you do, and it clicks, it's just fucking class.

It was Mark's interpretation of a dream that Jan St. Werner had told him, in which he'd been booked to DJ a club but then gets booted off the decks by Sven Väth.

It’s kind of funny: he’s translating this dream I had. In the dream, I had to book the whole club because I am such a lousy DJ; I had to buy the whole club out for that night. So I’m arriving there with all my records, glad that I can finally play all these great tunes that I have invested all my money into. And I get there, and there is already a DJ, the in-house DJ. He’s like, “You might’ve booked the club but I’m the DJ, I’m putting on the records”. And then, I’m going so insane that I flood the club, flushing the whole thing away. Mark liked the dream so much that he put down lyrics straight away. With him, he thought also of the connotations of having a dream and something going really wrong and you piss your bed, in this Freudian way. There’s this reverse personality on the track, which is a recurring theme of the record – who is actually who? Like, I’m the narrator, and also the band member, then he’s Mark E. Smith, then he becomes me, then he’s the DJ, then the DJ’s pissing in his own bed.

shit, that's great! i wasn't really far off then...! thank you!