― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Hahah. Hey, it worked for Ian Astbury.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
And so do I, now. A fiver. Whee.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
that sucks, i wrote that... should be in the next issue!
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 21 January 2005 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 January 2005 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.productshopnyc.com
just the idea of a smiths reunion blows my mind.
― rm265, Friday, 21 January 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 21 January 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 21 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 21 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― the first church of latebloomer, friend of plebians and santa (reformed) (latebl, Friday, 21 January 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Radiohead to record "happy songs" Guardian - 11 hours agoCritically -acclaimed rock miserablists Radiohead are to release an album of covers of happy songs from the Eighties. Songs will include “Happy Talk”, “The Birdie Song”, and a duet with Cliff Richard on a startling re-interpretation of his 1988 Christmas smash “Mistletoe & Wine”The Smiths to reform Reuters
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 21 January 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― (plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― klung (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
Jonathan King?
― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
― JD from CDepot, Monday, 14 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
― stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
― klung (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
"Just had dinner at Daniel (NY) with some work friends, when I noticed an older and wiser Johnny Marr of The Smiths coming in as we were going out. I stopped to gawk because, well, that's what you do.
As he went to his table, he shook his dining partner's hand - it was a greying Morrissey. Smiths reunion, anyone?"
Morrissey fan sites are rubbishing these claims, but my money is on 'something' happening for Manchester vs Cancer, a charity concert at the MEN arena in Jan 2006. Maybe.
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)
I'm sure that would be a lot of people's opinion - but I'm not at all sure I agree.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)
― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
I still tend to think that Johnny joining Morrissey on stage for a couple of numbers is far more likely to happen than any sort of actual reunion.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)
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-- k/l (lauter...), November 15th, 2005 8:00 PM. (later)
I'm not too sure to be honest. I'm certainly not amongst those who are against all reunions on some sort of principle (in my experience for every Page and Plant there's a Damned or a Bauhaus or a Buzzcocks or a Buzzkunst or a Penetration or a Pixies....); however there was something so essentially.... adolescent.... about so much of The Smiths material, that it's hard to imagine how a bunch of 40-somethings would be able to either recapture that or compensate for its absence.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
That was the first Coachella festival. No reunion happened, obv.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
most otm post ever
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
OTM. I mean, id go see morrissey anytime, but i find it hard to believe that the essence of the smiths would be anything but betrayed by a reunion.
― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)
A few of the reunions I've seen recent years, Mission of Burma, Pixies, Bauhaus, Gang of Four, Buzzcocks, were all pretty great, actually.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001659262
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
http://www.manchestervcancer.co.uk/
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)
http://www.manchestervcancer.co.uk/tickets.asp
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
― The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 17 December 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)
― retrokid, Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
Statement from Mike Joyce with reference to Classically Smiths . It is with much regret that I have to announce that I will not be taking part in the show (s) Classically Smiths. I entered into agreement in good faith to perform these shows with Andy Rourke and Craig Gannon. Unfortunately it became apparent very late that Andy would not be taking part. I agreed with Andy that I would take part in the press conference and inform people that he would not be taking part. Unfortunately on the morning of the press conference I was informed I would not be able to say this. I therefore agreed to take part in the press interviews but did so without discussing Andy’s participation in the venture at any point during all tv, radio and print interviews. After much deliberation and soul searching I have decided that without Andy, an integral part of why I agreed to take part in the first place, I have come to this difficult decision. I still believe the shows and concept to be a fantastic idea and wish them all the success they deserve.
so they made up fake quotes to pretend Andy was playing. then Joyce finds out Andy didn't actually agree to it and the two of them decide to tell the press. then before he can set the record straight he finds out he can't is not allowed to discuss it. do i have this right? what the fuck
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:32 (eight years ago)
Rubber Ring Cycle
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:34 (eight years ago)
If it hadn't already been done to death, I'd have launched a Smiths website. But too many already. So I decided instead to launch a website around the music of two other great songwriters - Cathal Coughlan and Sean O'Hagan, who I was thrilled to see lead Microdisney into a reunion period in 2018 and 2019. On https://coughlanohagan.com/, I think I'm building up something worthwhile. Hope you enjoy it.
― weirwrite, Saturday, 23 May 2020 06:52 (six years ago)
"six figures per band member" - how adorable 2005 was.
What would Coachella pay for a Smiths reunion in 2021, $10 million?
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 23 May 2020 07:01 (six years ago)
What has Microdisney got to do with The Smiths?
― Mark G, Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:25 (six years ago)
At least we have Rick Astley and Blossoms to fall back on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XluAp8yEhZ8
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 08:25 (four years ago)
Oops
Well, I met The Blossoms a few weeks ago and they elected to not mention it. Nice.— Johnny Marr (@Johnny_Marr) September 17, 2021
― groovypanda, Friday, 17 September 2021 14:40 (four years ago)
lmao at salty Johnny Marr
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 17 September 2021 17:38 (four years ago)
didn't they realise he was the perfect guitarist to be in The Smiths with a better singer? :-(
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:08 (four years ago)
Someone start an ILX Go Fund Me to buy The Smiths name and reform with Rick Astley on vocals.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/sep/03/morrissey-puts-his-business-interests-in-the-smiths-up-for-sale-to-any-interested-party
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:33 (nine months ago)
Are there examples of this happening before? From one half of a songwriting partnership I mean..
― piscesx, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:40 (nine months ago)
I look askance at that listed email.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:42 (nine months ago)
Morrissey shares 50% of the rights to the Smiths with Marr. Whether the brand retains its value to investors without Morrissey as an active participant to help market it remains to be seen.
i am not a rational consumer, but isn’t there a good chance the brand would increase in value once people know Morrissey’s not making money off of it?
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:46 (nine months ago)
honestly i love the smiths and i still put them on, occasionally, but far less than i would if i didn’t have to think “goddamn morrissey’s a fucking asshole” as i did it, or feel the need to mutter something about how i know ‘morrissey sucks, but’ if i want to play them in the company of someone else (who would be people who like the smiths but hate morrissey)
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:47 (nine months ago)
That Morrissey statement reads like something that has been machine translated.
― visiting, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:49 (nine months ago)
Wasn't there a rift between Hall and Oates a while back about something similar? Daryl Hall was upset that John Oates wanted to sell his half of the band's publishing company (which I learn is called Whole Oats Enterprises, or WOE for short):https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/nov/30/the-ultimate-betrayal-more-details-emerge-in-hall-oates-lawsuit
Oates counter-argument was that Daryl Hall had gone out of his way to portray the band as two individuals rather than a team, which gave him the right to sell his stake independently.
Of course it could be that Morrissey is having a fit, or his internet has been hacked.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:53 (nine months ago)
Why does he write like English is his second language?
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:54 (nine months ago)
(xxp) Snap!
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:55 (nine months ago)
Hall and Oates rift; officially healed btw
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/aug/12/hall-oates-lawsuit-settlement
― piscesx, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:00 (nine months ago)
The Guardian has contacted representatives for Marr and Joyce for comment.
Johnny Marr must love getting phonecalls on the regular about Morrissey's bullshit.
― visiting, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:12 (nine months ago)
Pretty sure they’re still broken up
― Dumpy's Rusty Nuts Gimmick Poster (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:15 (nine months ago)
What does Andy Rourke not count or something?
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:18 (nine months ago)
At first I was like "say it isn't so," but
This makes my dreams come true
― je ne sequoia (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:45 (nine months ago)
M-E-T-H-O-D-O-F-L-A-W
― peace, man, Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:00 (nine months ago)
xxp Rourke died last year
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:03 (nine months ago)
I know but does Morrissey?
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:14 (nine months ago)
haha fair point!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:23 (nine months ago)
Pretty sure he doesn't care.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 September 2025 09:35 (nine months ago)
Haha that Guardian article linked to another piece describing how Morrissey apparently wrote an anti-woke screed so bad that even Nick Cave wouldn't sing on it. My life flashed before my eyes trying to even imagine it
Let's crowdfund a cagematch between Morrissey, Nick Cave and Jonny Greenwood over who can espouse the most old man shouts at clouds anti-woke diatribe on the interwebs
― Etherwave, Thursday, 4 September 2025 10:32 (nine months ago)