― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
What about the Fire Theft? The relative silence about that album from the usual places makes me think it must have sucked.
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― charlie va (charlie va), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 3 May 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
really good band excellent flair for melodic songwriting i guess the emo affiliations tend to scare people off
― Charlie Howard, Monday, 28 April 2008 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link
play this stuff to an emo kid of today and they would piss their pants with laughter
― electricsound, Monday, 28 April 2008 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link
But who wouldn't piss their pants with laughter even looking at an emo kid of today?
― Nhex, Monday, 28 April 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link
he thinks "i gave her my heart. she tasted my soul. now she's gone again."
― Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I pretty much love these guys btw and I'm shocked nobody mentioned "In Circles" itt as I think it easily trumps "Seven" as their best thing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 17 August 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
SDRE is one of my absolute favorite bands ever. Period.
― Marty Innerlogic, Monday, 17 August 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
"In Circles" rules obv.
I once bought one of their CDs, but quickly exchanged it for another.
― _Rockist__Scientist_, Monday, 17 August 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
in circles is fine but i still prefer seven
was listening to this album again recently for some reason
― you! me! posting! (electricsound), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
"The Prophet" is my favorite SDRE song. I think I'll take "Seven" over "In Circles" but "Grendel" is the one I come back to the most on the debut.
― afternoon "delight" (Euler), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link
"Sometimes" is fucking dope
― do HOOS ever just steen into space and weep (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Seven over In Circles. How it Feels to Be Something On over either of them.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 August 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
secret reunion show kickoff:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-fzrtV8_KI
― *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 September 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Today's a really good SDRE day.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Just listened to Return of the Frog Queen yesterday and remembered that these guys had a Record Store Day 7" this year that I forgot about.
― cwkiii, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
It's on Spotify. Good song. Too bad they never pulled another album together.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
I had completely wiped The Fire Theft from memory. I'm sure it must have at least mildly excited me in 2003, but stumbling across it on wikipedia today was like completely new information.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
"heaven" off the fire theft record is remarkable
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
The other night I got a nostalgic urge to listen to SDRE's second album, because I was nuts about them in high school and beyond. I listened to it all the way through, but felt distinctly underwhelmed. Maybe one song on it sort of did anything for me. I will reserve judgement until I re-listen to the first one. But agreed that 'seven' is fucking awesome.
― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Monday, November 25, 2002 1:56 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
similar nostalgic urge last week and came up with different results. The 2nd album (always my favorite of the two--never bothered with anything post-breakup) holds up for me. It's so oppressive and gloomy. I also noticed (maybe for the first time) how good the drumming is. No wonder Grohl tapped that guy to play in Foo Fighters.
Pushed my luck and revisited Diary, which, as stated many times upthread, starts out strong, but really fizzles off after that. Still, good "sound" on these records. They're very of-their-time, but in a good way.
― Wimmels, Saturday, 22 October 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, William Goldsmith is such an incredible drummer, especially on that second record (which is still one of my favorite records).
Post-breakup, still think How It Feels is brilliant, but that's where I get off the boat.
― cwkiii, Saturday, 22 October 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link
I guess I should hear that one, a lot of people seem to like it. I felt like I'd sorta 'outgrown' them at the time or something, they just weren't at all on my radar by that point
― Wimmels, Saturday, 22 October 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
It's a totally different vibe from the first two but it's a very very good record.
― cwkiii, Saturday, 22 October 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link
I never really listened to this band, but this was a pretty good/intense interview about SDRE and being miserable in Foo Fighters.http://www.thetrapset.net/094-william-goldsmith-sunny-day-real-estate-the-fire-theft/
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
How It Feels is no question their best record. Nostalgic for the first two from time to time, but I still actively love that one.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
xp Wow, I'd forgotten about The Trap Set! Crazy that they're up to 94 episodes now. Lots of digging to do.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
Just got tickets for the Return of the Frog Queen 20 year anniversary tour. Feeling old rn.
― cwkiii, Friday, 20 April 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link
so like, the rising tide, which tt has basically just forced on me, is a ridiculous masterpiece
― imago, Saturday, 3 November 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
how had i not heard this
tt you've known me for 4 years almost to the day
j'accuse
― imago, Saturday, 3 November 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Apparently I thought it was more urgent for you to hear Sugarcult or something I’m sorry.
― tangenttangent, Saturday, 3 November 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
oh god i’m so glad you love the rising tide lj
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 November 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
Have never been able to get into Rising Tide as much as the other SDRE albums but I'll keep trying.
^ Me on the emo poll thread - it's now one of my favourite albums of the '00s.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 4 November 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link
she's in myyyyy heeead
― imago, Sunday, 4 November 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
it's the law that you have to tell me what you think of the fire theft and/or jeremy enigk's solo career after this
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 November 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
the fire theft album: it's nice and pretty, doesn't blow me away, but then again I'm only halfway through it so it still has time
― imago, Sunday, 4 November 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
as soon as I posted that the album got better haha
― imago, Sunday, 4 November 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link
lol absurd epic closing track thrown in to tempt the lower demons of my nature
― imago, Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
oh no it's a hidden track job WHY DID EVERYONE DO THIS
― imago, Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
This all seems... bizarre. I'd love to hear another SDRE record though.
https://pitchfork.com/news/drummer-claims-dave-grohl-is-blocking-unreleased-sunny-day-real-estate-album-bandmate-denies-it/
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
the goldsmith/grohl beef drums on
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
In The Trap Set interview - which is a good listen - he is kinda pissy about Grohl, with good reason imho and interestingly very direct about how Dan Hoerner is apparently a terrible person, also a lot of his family seem to have had battles with alcohol with tragic results, so perhaps he's some kind of grudgeful drunk poster.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
I knew he held no love for Grohl, the supposed "lost album" was a new twist to me.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
one day in the late 90s i was minding my own business reading a SDRE interview, and then william goldsmith starts describing his approach to playing drums, and that with every snare hit he's trying to "crack the earth" so that his dead sister might one day rise up through it... i swear that quote flashes thru my mind monthly
― rip van wanko, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
https://www.spin.com/2022/01/sunny-day-real-estate-2022-reunion-tour/
!
― ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
the lost album goldsmith was rambling about years ago was just their unfinished attempt at recording a new album after the 2009 reunion, right? it was pretty well-established that they'd written new material & tried to record it after the reunion tour but the sessions didn't end up going anywhere for whatever reason?
― ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link
Wow, after hearing Will Goldsmith talk about Dan Hoerner on that Trap Set podcast a few years back, I figured they were done forever.
I think he may have also talked about the "lost" album in that interview, too? iirc, it was just the sessions that "Lipton Witch" came from; I think they had a few other half-finished songs before they split again.
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link
i didn't become a fan of this band until How It Feels which I still rank very highly; I saw them on tour for the Rising Tide and thought it was great, so I'll likely check this out.
― akm, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link
XP - That was my first thought too, he was very robust about Dan, to say the least.
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 19:54 (two years ago) link
weird, I really hated the Rising Tide up above, but now I think it's excellent.
― akm, Saturday, 19 November 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link
It's their best album.
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 20 November 2022 08:34 (one year ago) link
Rising Tide is all time. What a masterpiece. That album was my introduction, and nothing I've heard from them topped it.
― octobeard, Sunday, 20 November 2022 08:55 (one year ago) link
It was my favorite of theirs last time I thought about such a thing. That was a long time ago, though.
― alpine static, Sunday, 20 November 2022 09:08 (one year ago) link
Wow i think i just “never got to” Rising Ride, tho I liked HIFTBSO— this is v good. There is a vocal tone and like, guitar crescendo thing going that now makes me think of manchester orchestra a lot.
― i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
Rising Tide is a prog masterpiece
― imago, Sunday, 20 November 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
They play Denver Dec 4. I am v poor at going to shows, but damn, I think I am there. Reports?
― i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 November 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/7583-the-rising-tide/
what if a brent d review is the reason i never got to rising tide omg what if that
― i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 November 2022 05:18 (one year ago) link
xp FYI, their December dates were just posponed, due to drummer's broken hand (we had tix for Dec. 12).
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link
ah shit but maybe for the best since I think that fell during finals week for my kid and he wanted to come with me.
― akm, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
pretty great last night, guess I should finally hear the albums after Diary
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 23 April 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link
they're doing a diary 30th (oof) anniversary tour and putting out a rerecording of the album
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2dA-oWPQOS/
this clip of the rerecorded "blanket was the stairs" sounds excellent
― ivy., Tuesday, 23 January 2024 19:33 (seven months ago) link
I'll have to check that out, highly, highly suspect of bands rerecording stuff like this.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 19:41 (seven months ago) link
I remember the 15th anniversary show at Metro in Chicago - one of the band member's wives was pregnant and it was the first time Metro had a no smoking policy for a show. My how time's change.
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 19:42 (seven months ago) link
the circumstances of this re-recording are a little weird, not sure how i feel about this happening when nate mendel isn’t currently in the band (whatever interpersonal and professional conflicts that required them to reunite again without him notwithstanding, i don’t pretend to know about these things, glad they’re touring it’s awesome) and god knows the reason i love diary and LP2 is the particular dynamic of these guys playing together, maybe the first time i heard a non-jazz record where i felt like a whole world was being opened up just through interplay, a feeling i think is a little lost on the records they made when they first reunited without mendel, even though both of those records are insanely good
but also that studio clip sounds dope, and one of the flaws-that-is-a-feature of diary is how ruined his voice is from the tour they did right before recording it, and i’m interested in how he’ll approach it with a not-ruined voice. notice he’s taking a lower register in the verses which admittedly sounded painful to sing on the og
― ivy., Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:10 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQa_CrPHdX0
the new song is good, shame there's not more on the way
― ufo, Friday, 26 January 2024 05:33 (seven months ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL55ljbjKy_Qf46TyePVwfd9MSLppszHV1
i went digging and some instrumentals from the unfinished 5th album sessions during their last reunion leaked a while ago and the band's confirmed they're real. hoerner's said he's not happy with the songs at all though so they're probably never finishing or releasing those.
― ufo, Friday, 26 January 2024 05:47 (seven months ago) link
that "new" song (it dates back to how it feels) is outrageously beautiful
― ivy., Friday, 26 January 2024 18:24 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJNn2vsyw4E
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:04 (four months ago) link
sounds pretty distinct from the album version, like... the vocals are audible
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:28 (four months ago) link