Rolling Teenpop 2007 Thread

Also, just noticed this on his (tentative, I assume) year-not-quite-end album list:

23. Soulja Boy: Souljaboytellem.com (Interscope)

Billboard's top 10 singles of the year:

1. Beyonce - "Irreplaceable"
2. Rihanna ft. Jay Z - "Umbrella"
3. Gwen Stefani ft. Akon - "The Sweet Escape"
4. Fergie - "Big Girls Don't Cry"
5. T-Pain ft. Yung Joc - "Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin')"
6. Carrie Underwood - "Before He Cheats"
7. Plain White T's - "Hey There Delilah"
8. Akon ft. Snoop Dog - "I Wanna Love You"
9. Nelly Furtado - "Say It Right"
10. Fergie ft. Ludacris - "Glamorous"

Not a lot with a teenpop flair there. Last year's #1, "Bad Day", didn't get a single vote in P&J or Jackin Pop. This year's top 2 figure to do better.

I still think that "Gimme More" and "Get Naked (I Got a Plan" and "Freakshow" are all better than "Piece of Me".

Blackout has now taken over as my #1 album of the year.

Also, just noticed this on his (tentative, I assume) year-not-quite-end album list:

23. Soulja Boy: Souljaboytellem.com (Interscope)

I noticed this...has he written about it anywhere? It's hard for me to listen to the album all the way through, even though I do like it. Kind of begs to be scattered around to other places/mixes. It's REALLY annoying all in one sitting (kind of in a good way, but annoying is annoying). I also like the idea that kids are probably using this album to bug the hell out of their parents.

CELEBRITY NOSES! Ashlee Tisdale now looks like this.

Apparently Fall Out Boy was nominated 4 times by different PFM writers, but they all nominated different songs from each other (Hum Hallelujah, Thnks fr the Mmrs, I'm Like a Lawyer and The Take Over). MCR's Teenagers only got one nomination. Aly + AJ got two nominations for PBS (14 on one list and 20 on another). I don't know how the aggregations work, but I would've thought that would've been enough for them to place

Greg, it's funny but outside Piece of Me, the one song that keeps sticking out to me on Blackout is Radar (where "On my radar" starts to sound like "Amaraida," a far more exotic annunciation.)

mord otm re: "radar". i like to here it as "amaretto" with an a at the end instead of an o. favorite song on a pretty okay album.

The Britney Spears, she be sippin' amare-TTA

Jessica Poptastic heard "Radar" as "Because I got you gonorrhea."

I note that the Britney got album votes in P4k in a Ewing/Finney/Trousse trifecta.

Fall Out Boy also polled pretty well on the P4K list and must have just missed the top 50. It had two #4 votes and a #13 vote (I think).

FYI, This is what Ashlee Simpson currently looks like.

Ashlee bounces off wall in new vid, Sigmund provides no help

Very silly in a good way, ambitious too, though I still think the song is about her mom. Of should be. (I know little about her mom except that I found her very appealing berating Ashlee for not knowing how to mop the floor in episode one of the Ashlee Simpson Show.)

In MTV's description of the vid, Timbo plays the psychotherapist, but either the vidmakers replaced him or there's a longer version that isn't up on Launch Yahoo.

Maybe Timbo couldn't get permission from his studio to be in the vid.

My ears and eyes and everything but the airplay numbers tell me that "Outta My Head" is a hit. How can it not be? (But I'm still afraid it won't.)

Of should be = Or should be

Teenpop Hava Nagila from Lauren Rose:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgdHjWPuCrI&

Bullshit! They don't show the feet during the so-called hora! I contend that it's a fake! (But it sounds good. And she looks like Ashlee used to, except she smiles too much.)

I love how (her own?) YouTube page calls it a "Christmas single release" and calls it the "re make of Hava Nagila" (a remake of the Will To Power original version, right?).

Omg. I totally picked up on the Ashlee thing too. In fact, when my editor sent me the link and asked me what I thought, I said I thought she looked like Ashlee Simpson.

Dear Lauren Rose, who I have barely heard of, please do not have a nose job or I will be very unhappy.

Your devoted fan.

Frank

I think she's exactly 50% old-Ashlee and 50% old-Ashley (Tisdale).

Fergie's Glamorous as sung by the Constance Billard Choir on Gossip Girl:
http://cwtv.com/thecw/images/music/gossipgirl/Glamorous.mp3

Also, if I can find it, they sang Santa Baby on last night's episode.

Dear Lauren Rose, who I have barely heard of, please do not have a nose job or I will be very unhappy.

I could easily turn that comment into a question about Ashlee Simpson and Jewish physical stereotypes. But I won't.

Hm, Ashley Tisdale is Jewish.

Yeah, dabug, on Monday, March 19, 2007 7:38 PM (9 months ago) on this thread, I linked to an American Jewish Life article about her Jewishness and her Bat Mitzvah (or lack thereof).

Radio report: Miley Cyrus's "See You Again" at 1,109 spins on Mainstream Top 40 stations (puts it at #35 in that format); added in Roanoke, Portsmouth, Saginaw, Lansing, Burlington VT, Augusta, Knoxville, Buffalo; rising in Atlanta, Philly, and Miami; holding strong but not gaining on Z-100 in New York. Radio Disney still not playing it (insanely having chosen "Start All Over" as the next Miley track to push (not that it's a bad song, but don't the Disneyans notice they have a potential breakout hit in "See You Again"?). Although New York numbers indicate the song will peak in several weeks, the adds suggest that it has the potential for a steady climb up the charts à la Pink's "U + Ur Hand." (But the Pink song had a video and was by an established Top 40 radio act.) Taylor Swift's "Teardrops On My Guitar" has gotten its second wind on Top 40 stations and is at #11 with 4,904 spins. Britney Spears' "Piece Of Me" is at #28 in the format with 2,199 spins but doesn't seem to be tearing the place up. Ashley Tisdale's "He Said, She Said" has climbed to 906 spins and was added in Wilkes-Barre, McAllen (?), and Canton but won't go much higher, since it's falling on almost as many stations as it's rising - unless Rolling Teenpop's discussion of Ashley's nose reinvigorates airplay. Ashlee Simpson's "Outta My Head" got thirteen spins in Phoenix and two in Reno. None on Radio Disney ("L.O.V.E." got about three). So a whole lot depends on response at TRL and Launch Yahoo, I'd think. Or maybe someone who doesn't post on this thread or Poptimists will also notice that the song is catchy.

Billboard Hot 100: Jordin Sparks' "Tattoo" is #8; Sara Bareilles' sub-sub-Tashbed "Love Song" is rising fast at #16 (Tash's "Love Like This" f. Innocuous Roly Poly is holding on at #19, one behind Innocuous Boy's "Take You There"); Taylor Swift's "Our Song" at #21 and "Teadrops On My Guitar" at #24; Britney's "Piece Of Me" is #45 (#20 in downloads); Miley's "See You Again" is #78.

Frank, what stations in Atlanta are playing "See You Again"?

WSTR 94.1 FM ("See You Again" is #33 on their playlist with 18 spins)

Also, if you're in earshot:
WHHD in Augusta 98.3 FM (#27 with 17 spins)
WCGQ in Columbus 107.3 FM (#26 with 21 spins)
WFBC in Greenville 93.7 FM (#24 with 31 spins)
and WZAT and WAEZ in Savannah (2 spins each)

Rolling Teenschlock Talk 2008: Britney's sister is allegedly preggers. (Or: Britter's sister is allegedly preggy.)

Ack. My Jackin' Pop ballot is due tomorrow... Is Gunpowder & Lead a single for 2007 (even though it's officially being released in 2008).

Idolator will count it because they're counting "tracks." I think "G&L" was released as a single, then rescinded as a single by the label. They now claim that it wasn't a single (I think they talked about this more on the country thread, so I might be misremembering). Right now it's slated as a single for 2008 according to Wikipedia, but I'd just count it toward 2007. (And anyway, your vote will still count toward next year if it's released and people vote for it in 2008.)

Crazy one shot video for Miley's "Start All Over." They seem to have blown the opportunity for a Fefe Dobson cameo.

I've heard "See You Again" on the XM top 20 channel. It's nice that the best song on that album is a hit, I wasn't sure they'd even try it as a single.

oh man, the new ashlee is spectacular. Someone put it on the ILX year end poll since I missed it before voting.

re: nose jobs:

sketchy magazine covers aside, Ashlee's nose job is great. Just about the perfect nose job.

Tisdale's on the other hand is a horror I've yet to wrap my head around.

Via Frank via Jeff W, Aly and AJ doing Bullseye acoustic (Youtube rip fairly LQ and ending is cut off). I think the vocals are identical but the arrangement's pretty different. It's good, replaces grungy power chords with something closer to Peter Gunn, then to meet its grunge quotient (not sum) goes into something that reminds me of Pearl Jam for the bridge.

xp I will never recognize this as anything but awful:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/nameom/plastic.jpg

Ashlee Considers Making A Metal Record
"It's about making a silly comment and turning it into a song. What if I do a metal record? I think it goes with how you are, where you're at, and right now I'm in an easygoing, fun-loving time."

The new album is now called "Bittersweet World."

First, it was the rumors that none other than Robert Smith, morose and made-up frontman of the Cure, was helping write songs for the record (note: not true). Then, there was talk that the album would see her rolling out an alter ego named Vicky Valentine (also not true). And finally, there was news that Wentz himself was contributing songs, which — you guessed it — also turned out to be false.

Loving Veronicas' "Untouched" on the radio. I haven't actually heard the album, but I like the idea that they consciously decided to merge studio teenpop and confessional teenpop into a single shiny rush.

Hi Tim. The Veronicas' album is way better than their first, even if it has no "4ever." "Untouched" is the second-worst song on the album, but I don't think I'll get many people to agree with me there. One of my favorites is "Take Me On The Floor," which, despite its being on the floor, is really over the top - seems like a female version of Kid Rock's "So Hott" ("I wanna fuck you like I'm never gonna see you again"), though not as deliberately funny. But pretty funny.

By the way, do you receive those links I've been sending by email? I'm not sure I have your correct email address?

Matt, I still haven't confirmed that "See You Again" was intended as a single or just started acting like one owing to audience demand.

I do receive them and I'm shit about remembering to download and respond! Will try to follow up with yr latest though. And check out the Veronicas album.

I may like The Hood Internet's Lil Mama vs. Marnie Stern mashup "Absorb The Lip Gloss" more than the original "Lip Gloss." I may like Lil Mama's "Shawty Get Loose" more than "Lip Gloss." I definitely prefer the acoustic "Bullseye" to the original. Exact same Aly & A.J. vocals, but the acoustic chords make the song moodier and more obsessive, the "ha ha ha" not sounding fun this time, but ominous.

I'll try that link again: Shawty Get Loose

My Idolator ballot.

You were a little kinder to teenpop this year than I was, I think. (Both Kelly and Hilary took a nosedive to the near-bottom of my list at the last second.) In retrospect I think I'll slowly grow to like Aly and AJ's more, Hilary's even less. I can't imagine my opinion on Britney or Kelly changing too much over time (since I've come to understand/accept the flaws in both of 'em, which in Kelly's case means ignoring at least three or four songs).

The Lil' Marnie mash-up is nice, but I don't really think it works -- Marnie's too busy and Mama's too relaxed/assured. It's frantic, nervous, feels like it's moving too fast and it's about to crash. Although I can imagine if you're not totally enamored with the original you might enjoy that effect.

Also, out of curiosity (since you like the V's alb more than I do) what's the worst track on it? I love "Untouched," prefer it even to "Hook Me Up" as a single.

Catching up on a lot of non- and semi-teenpop stuff over the holidays, haven't been blown away by anything yet. I really don't understand why people like Against Me, who sound to me like the Offspring that wishes they were the Hold Steady (with some <i>American Idiot</i> thrown in, not intended as a compliment). Kind of liking Yelle, who reminds me a little bit of CSS, but with more bonkers sugar high style hyperactivity and less hipster detachment.

HSM alum #4 (#5 if you count Drew Seeley), Lucas Grabeel - You Got It. Um, not what I was expecting.

I'm so humiliated to admit that I didn't understand what's great about "All My Friends" until I heard Franz Ferdinand cover it. WHAT IZ TA RONG WITH ME?

I never understood what was so great about Barr (even though I reviewed him favorably) and Battles (whom I reviewed somewhat favorably) and Dan Deacon and Of Montreal (whom I like pretty well, actually) and Grinderman and Dinosaur Jr. and Justice until, um (some event in the distant future that causes me to reevaluate 'em).

(I'm working my way through the Paper Thin Walls year-end mixtape. Don't mean to imply that the ones I haven't mentioned have greatness and I understand it, rather that not a lot of people have asserted the greatness of the other bands, so I didn't feel compelled to assume that they had greatness that was beyond my ken.)

Airplay, Z-100 in New York City
lw TW Artist Title TW lw +/- Reach/Mill
4 1 RIHANNA Don't Stop The Music 95 74 21 8.7413
2 2 ALICIA KEYS No One 92 95 -3 8.5443
1 3 CHRIS BROWN Kiss, Kiss (f/T-Pain) 78 95 -17 6.9371
<b>7 4 MILEY CYRUS See You Again 78 57 21 7.4272</b>
11 5 ENUR Calabria 2008 (f/Natasja) 63 43 20 6.0612
5 6 PARAMORE Misery Business 62 62 0 5.9815
6 7 FERGIE Clumsy 57 60 -3 5.4613
10 8 FLO RIDA Low (f/T-Pain) 51 44 7 4.5005
13 9 JORDIN SPARKS No Air (f/ Chris Brown) 49 40 9 4.4648
12 10 JORDIN SPARKS Tattoo 48 43 5 4.2235

Woah, I just heard "Piece of Me" for the first time. The robots have won, haven't they?

I'm not a huge fan of the song, but it sure sounds pretty darn human to me, so I'm not sure I get the robot claim. Anyway, here's what I wrote about it on the country thread last week, even though it has nothing whatsoever to do with country music:

has anybody pointed out that Britney's "Piece of Me" is sort of her version of GnR's "Get In The Ring"? A lot better though. But not nearly as good as "Positively Fourth Street," and it won't make my (overall) top 10 singles list because I like the idea of it more than I like the actual record; I feel like it's better in theory than in actuality. Also, I wish she enunciated the line "I'm Mrs. Extra Extra This Just In" better; that line was driving me crazy -- kept hearing it as "extra delicious icious" or some thing. (Honestly, maybe this is obvious, but who it really reminds me of is Eminem. They would have made a lovely couple. Can't think what song of his is the most obvious equivalent, though. And I have no idea why I'm posting this on the country thread.)

-- xhuxk, Friday, December 21, 2007 1:00 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

And okay (bringing it back to country), probably another one of my problems with "Piece Of Me" is the same problem I had with the Dixie Chicks' "Not Ready To Make Nice" last year, where you totally have to understand the artist's back story to understand the record. And I know, I know, it's fairly impossible not to know Britney's back story. But maybe that impossibility is what bugs me; maybe I wish I could get away from the back story. (And so does she, I'm sure, which is part of the song's point -- This gets complicated!) And maybe in five years I'll think "Piece Of Me" is as great as, say, "Public Image" (the lyrics of which, though, I'd say, are less dependent, specifics-wise, on knowing precisely who Johnny Rotten was, though maybe I'm wrong.) Also, I'm not sure why the "back story knowing" requirement never seemed to bother me with certain Eminem songs; on the other hand, it's not like I've really gone back and listened to those lately either, so maybe they weren't as great as I thought they were at the time. And I have no doubt that Britney is the real Slim Shady, all the other Slim Shadys are just imitating. But I'm still not voting for her single this year (or, so far anyway, searching out her new album to hear.)

-- xhuxk, Friday, December 21, 2007 2:01 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

I feel like it's better in theory than in actuality.

This is very much what I get out of it.

Also, I wish she enunciated the line "I'm Mrs. Extra Extra This Just In" better; that line was driving me crazy -- kept hearing it as "extra delicious icious" or some thing.

That's the way I heard it, too.