Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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I can sort of hear that one working, if I squint, sad to say... Girls Aloud are at least going for terrace anthem material (and playing arenas) in the first place. Big hooks, populist as you can get.

From Lily (or Mia, or the Sugababes) it seems like a desperate, sad manouver or retreat.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't seem to have been any riots at the gigs thus far. I'm seeing them at Wembley Arena on Saturday so will report back.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE!

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BLIGHTED
Americans’ fitful appetite for British pop.
by SASHA FRERE-JONES
Issue of 2006-06-05
Posted 2006-05-29

If you have a song in your heart and can’t get onto “American Idol,” think about buying a plane ticket. In the nineteen-fifties, American blues records found their way to England and caused young Britons like John Lennon and Keith Richards to start their own bands and record cover versions of songs by Muddy Waters and the Isley Brothers. (Lennon and Richards reportedly went on to write their own material.) Soon, England became a destination for American pop musicians looking to establish themselves. The U.K. has a state-sponsored radio conglomerate, the BBC, which almost everyone listens to, and a long tradition of music weeklies competing to herald the arrival of the hottest new pop act. In September of 1966, Jimi Hendrix went to London and hired an English rhythm section. When he returned home, nine months later, he had scored three top-ten singles in the U.K. and had landed an American record contract. In 2001, the British weekly New Musical Express, known as NME, anointed a little-known New York band called the Strokes as the Next Big Thing, convincingly enough to make it true, at least for a year.

The musical traffic flows in both directions, and English pop acts are currently faring as well in the States as they have at any time since the early eighties, when Duran Duran, Culture Club, and Wham! dominated MTV with their cheery, decadent songs and ruffled outfits. The anthemic yet cuddly rock band Coldplay, which sounds like a less belligerent version of U2, has sold three million copies of its recent album “X & Y.” James Blunt, a hunky former British Army officer, has achieved omnipresence with his daft ballad “You’re Beautiful,” a pledge to a woman whom the singer glimpsed once. (“I’ve got a plan,” Blunt announces, suggesting that he may intend to stalk his dream girl, but he opts instead for the historically proven approach of braying “You’re beautiful” nine times.) Finally, “Unwritten,” an agile pop album by Natasha Bedingfield, has sold half a million copies on the strength of the title track, a perky compendium of self-help mottoes.

These musicians don’t sound all that similar. Coldplay’s better songs are miniature epics that suggest vast stores of emotion; Bedingfield is a clean-cut pop singer with a knack for R. & B.; and Blunt satisfies an enduring if baffling need for men who mewl without their shirts on. Nevertheless, they have several crucial things in common: their lyrics tend to be uplifting; they lack identifiably English accents, and they avoid British slang unfamiliar to Americans. These attributes are what distinguish their music from another strain of mainstream English pop, which rarely makes it big in the States, even when it should.

An implicit embargo began in the fifties, with Cliff Richard, England’s answer to Elvis Presley, who had to wait almost twenty years for his first American hit, and reached its height with Robbie Williams, a former boy-band singer who is a superstar everywhere but here. The Arctic Monkeys, one of NME’s recent picks, are the latest British pop sensation to have got stuck at customs. Logistical factors—the comparative ability of independents and majors to promote acts, the tight strictures of radio—are partly to blame, but the bigger problem is one of accents and attitude. If your songs are cynical, ironic, or misanthropic, and loaded with references to Tesco or “tracky bottoms tucked in socks,” Americans may simply turn the dial.

Robbie Williams, originally a member of the band Take That, struck out on his own in the mid-nineties and became a favorite of the British tabloids. He looks like a young Sean Connery gone to seed, and delights in bragging about his dissolute behavior. A duet called “Kids,” which Williams recorded in 2000 with Kylie Minogue—an Australian singer who has also had trouble gaining traction in America—sums up the dark British sophistication that amounts to self-imposed quarantine. The verses unfold over an irresistible, shifting dance beat and segue into a titanic rock chorus that suggests ABBA singing over an AC/DC track. The lyrics, though, don’t encourage the kind of identification that kids like to have with pop stars. Williams and Minogue dismantle the fourth wall in the very first verse—“We’ll paint by numbers till something sticks. We don’t mind doing it for the kids”—and Williams, after trading suggestive lines with Minogue, ends the song with this rap: “Single-handedly raising the economy, ain’t no chance of the record company dropping me. Press be asking ‘Do I care for sodomy?’ I don’t know—yeah, probably.”

The Arctic Monkeys are an independent rock band, a genre in which sunny dispositions are hardly the norm. Even so, Alex Turner, the twenty-year-old lead singer and songwriter, manages to summon the intractable bleakness of someone three times his age and much less successful. The band built its audience by playing live shows—constantly, all over England—and by giving away its songs as MP3s on Myspace.com. When its remarkable album, “Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not,” was released, in January, it sold more than three hundred and fifty thousand copies in the first week, making it the fastest-selling début in British history. (So much for the idea that giving away your music hurts sales.)

Turner is a prodigy at both character sketches and song form, able to describe the marginal life of a streetwalker (“She don’t do major credit cards, I doubt she does receipts, it’s all not quite legitimate”) and fickle fans ( “ ’Cause all you people are vampires, and all your stories are stale, and though you pretend to stand by us, I know you’re certain we’ll fail”) in deceptively casual lyrics, which he delivers in a thick Yorkshire accent. “Whatever People Say” has sold a hundred and seventy-eight thousand copies in America, a respectable number for an independent release, but it has fallen from a high of No. 24 on the Billboard charts, in March, to No. 139. The Monkeys’ live performances make it clear that, though they play furiously, they aren’t willing to smile or dance in order to sell their songs. At Webster Hall in March, Turner and his three bandmates wore tennis shirts and corduroys, and much of the time they stood stock still, seemingly uninterested in production values like jumping up and down. Turner’s words can’t be twisted into feel-good phrases; he expresses himself with a lapidary precision that shuns poetic cover. When he finishes the long, solo introduction to “When the Sun Goes Down,” a song about a prostitute and her pimp, he spits, “I said he’s a scumbag, don’t you know.”

“I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor,” which was a single in the U.K., is another combination of robust dance rock and deep disdain. When Turner sings the title phrase, and follows with “I don’t know if you’re looking for romance or, I don’t know what you’re looking for,” it doesn’t sound like he’s musing over the magical possibilities of a night out. In fact, if you’ve heard enough Arctic Monkeys songs, you know that nights routinely end with somebody going home with the wrong person, a fight breaking out, and everyone—except the guy who’s singing—regretting it all in the morning.

Americans are comfortable with certain kinds of moral ambiguity—hard rock and hip-hop are full of harsh conclusions and unpleasant world views—but we prefer our British bands to be picker-uppers. Somewhere, an American record label is trying to figure out whether Lily Allen is our kind of British. Allen, a twenty-one-year-old singer, is earning deserved raves in the London press and on music blogs. The daughter of the British comedian Keith Allen, she was signed in December by Parlophone on the basis of her delightful, ska-inflected songs, which are now available for download on her Myspace page. (She has given just four live performances, all within the past month and at the same London club.)

“LDN,” a lighthearted rap about her home town, has been released as a single, along with a low-budget digital video of Allen bicycling innocently around London. The track is built on a calypso loop, and Allen’s voice tends to lilt and skip, as if she were singing along to some of her favorite songs while walking down the street. In an accent dismissed in one British paper as “mockney” (a middle-class imitation of Cockney), she celebrates London on a sunny day, airily wondering, “Why, oh why, would I want to be anywhere else?” But she cannot avoid her countrymen’s realist tendencies, and, as the first verse closes, you can hear the soft thump of record executives dropping their heads to the table: “Everything seems to look as it should, but I wonder what goes on behind doors. A fella looking dapper, and he’s sitting with a slapper, then I see it’s a pimp and his crack whore.”

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I was actually going to post that I'm surprised to notice that almost all of Lily's songs verge on spiteful. I guess "Sunday Morning" isn't, but it's hardly straightforwardly positive (basically "yeah I like you but please don't say "I love you" because I can't say it back and it'll be really awkward if I have to choose between lying and not saying anything and telling the truth"). "Nan, You're A Window Shopper" is mean, albeit in a gentle way. "Not Big" ridicules men. "Shame For You" ridicules men and threatens physical violence courtesy of aggressive vengeful brothers...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:38 (twenty years ago)

I bet her brother Alfie must be pissed off too...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Nick Sylvester wrote kind of a rant about her lyrics (on his blog). Yeah the "mean, albeit in a gentle way" lyric of that tune really is the one that makes me wince that I mentioned upthread. There's a lack of empathy about the crackwhores etc in LDN that sits very uneasily too. Ridiculous sentence (am I that sensitive?) but I can't be the only one to think it?

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

That line rubs me the wrong way too but it's hard to put my finger on it. Because it comes from the perspective of everything looking right but not being "right," - it's not like she's sympathetic to the crack whore, it's just not right that the crack whore exists because it seems to disrupt her pretty picture.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:09 (twenty years ago)

fandango.
can't really comment re arular/piracy issue as i much prefer the piracy mixtape over the album proper, diplo's manic sonic chaos hit me a lot more than the clean studio versions, whereas with Lily i prefer the album proper.
go figure.

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

i've had LDN going round in my head all day although i suspect that i'm one of the people that tim would say "likes pop in the wrong way" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

lily allen talking smack about crack whores is enough to make me a rockist.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:58 (twenty years ago)

i say go for it!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

It's taken me about two weeks to go from loving it to finding her incredibly annoying. I think the spitefulness of the lyrics as mentioned is part of it (I don't like the normalification of "whore" and "slapper" as descriptive terms), but the mockneyness is just vomitous.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:07 (twenty years ago)

well I still like her, so poo

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:14 (twenty years ago)

oh. i sooo know this is a time limited album. but until then ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I don't get why she's getting New Yorker coverage.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

well I still like her, so poo

Good for you! She just reminds me of the Britpop novelty song era, i.e. fun at the pub the first few times, then a precipitous drop into being grating for the rest of time.

Her lyrics aren't that good though, are they? Sort of generic rhyming-dictionary stuff you'd knock out during a boring history lesson.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

you can enjoy the music without liking *her*. i really like "Knock Em Out" as a clever, snarky song but if i heard some girl moaning about men constantly hitting on her, only decorum would keep me from offering her a delicious knuckle sandwich.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:30 (twenty years ago)

ILM smokes crack.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

chuck check yr gmail

yuengling participle (rotten03), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

uh, why is a girl complaining about getting hit on so enraging?

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

misplaced jealousy for the easy access to casual sex of females i think.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

.. of good looking ones, I guess. Where's Calumn for a quite thesedays?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

The actual experience of being hit on by any drunken middle aged person in sight being less appealing than might be imagined if the sexes were reversed...

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

not enraging per se, please to exaggerate for comic effect. but cmon, IRL complaining about men offering to light your cigarette when you're fumbling to find your lighter in your handbag? how is that in any way intrusive? also telling people that they can't have your number because you've lost your phone = obnoxious. it's cute in the song, but people who actually complain about this are k-dud in real life.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

"i've had LDN going round in my head all day although i suspect that i'm one of the people that tim would say "likes pop in the wrong way" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. "

Jed I was quoting cispontine:

"Lex won't like it, people who like pop in 'the wrong way' like it and she actually admits to being quite indie despite being a girl which as we all know makes her a GENDER TRAITOR. ;)"

I think it's supposed to mean people who only like pop when it earns indie cred points and distances itself from its own popness - hence me arguing that if this line applies to Lily it applies doubly so to M.I.A.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:28 (twenty years ago)

"telling people that they can't have your number because you've lost your phone = obnoxious"

I would say that this is pretty normal behaviour for any girl getting hit on by someone they don't wanna be hit on by. It causes less trouble than saying "no"

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

man, that song, "LDN". that is evil. pure pop evil. i loves it.

Emily B (Emily B), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Not enough backlash, not enough pictures.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:40 (twenty years ago)

ah tim, i see. thanks for the clarification despite my grumpy post.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

The bottom line is her songs are just nothing special and she will be forgotten quickly.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:39 (twenty years ago)

I can't help but feel that if ILM had existed in the late 80s it would be saying the same about, say, Betty Boo! RIP ILM Popism!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

But she has a great publicist. Is Keith Allen a big name in the U.K.?

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

I can't help but feel that if ILM had existed in the late 80s it would be saying the same about, say, Betty Boo!

mmm. or, say, kylie...

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

anyway i think what i like about lily a. -- and about m.i.a., for that matter -- is the easy conflation of europop, hip-hop, dancehall, grime, whatever else gets thrown in there (and in both cases this is obv. most evident on the mixtapes). it feels kinda cheap and tawdry in a global way, in a way that whatever usually gets called "world music" never achieves. it's the same spirit that's in the jay-z version of "beware of the boys," in a lot of bhangra pop i guess, in manu chao and his affiliates, etc. maybe possibly the reason this stuff seems more interesting to americans than britishers is that any kind of global (i.e. non-american) influence in pop music is welcome. (which is why, say, timbaland's bhangra excursions seemed so fresh -- it's like, some acknowledgment, however fleeting, of the rest of the world, right there on our radio -- exciting!)(not that i expect lily allen to be on my radio.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

The bottom line is her songs are just nothing special and she will be forgotten quickly.

Just like your posting. (BURRRRRRRRRRN)

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

I find "Smile" and "Alfie" to be rather special

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:46 (twenty years ago)

So do I, if you mean the Brian Wilson album and the Burt Bacharach song.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:39 (twenty years ago)

That was an open net there.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:59 (twenty years ago)

anyway i think what i like about lily a. -- and about m.i.a., for that matter -- is the easy conflation of europop, hip-hop, dancehall, grime, whatever else gets thrown in there (and in both cases this is obv. most evident on the mixtapes). it feels kinda cheap and tawdry in a global way, in a way that whatever usually gets called "world music" never achieves.

I completely agree with this re MIA - if only Lily Allen did the same, though. I'm aware that she's operating in much the same way, which is why I'm trying to avoid criticising her because the middle-class-brat-dissing-crack-whores but still fetishising London's griminess is extremely trying. But she's using completely different source material (despite the red herrings on the mixtape) - whereas I'm down with MIA magpieing over baile funk, grime, dancehall &c &c because I like all the primary sources, I'm not down with Allen resurrecting the lurching corpses of fucking ska and Britpop - in sound she's nowhere near what MIA does, and my objections to her are primarily sonic.

I can't remember whether I posted this upthread or somewhere else, but - you know how Lady Sovereign's singles have gone in this fairly steep downward trajectory from "ace and exciting and wow!" to "a bit boring and quite beneath her" to the point that she's now willingly collaborating with the Ordinary Boys? Lily Allen is what would happen if this trajectory continued for another couple of years.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)

(the whole "liking pop in the wrong way" is a bit of a red herring, it's the sort of thing I'm wildly inconsistent on anyway, and has nothing to do with why I dislike Allen's music - however I think a lot of the hype around her is phrased in ways I find uhhh dubious shall we say)

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:41 (twenty years ago)

On the bright side, she'll probably win the Mercury Music Prize this year and that will kill her career stone dead.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

I misread that as "kill her carer stone dead".

Which is a little severe...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad you guys are here to turn everything into sarcasm and "here's a 60 page thesis on why she's bad" type politics, but I still like her songs.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Write a 60-page thesis on why you like her songs.

(that's generous - if you were working on an Ang Lee film he'd make you do 75 pages!)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:52 (twenty years ago)

"i don't like the way she sounds" != "politics"

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, that was how Nazi Germany started.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Munich: "i don't like the way she sounds"
Hitler: "I AM NOT A SHE!!! RIGHT, GET ZER TANKS!!"

freddie starr (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, carry on :-)

StanM (StanM), Friday, 2 June 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

you know how Lady Sovereign's singles have gone in this fairly steep downward trajectory from "ace and exciting and wow!" to "a bit boring and quite beneath her" to the point that she's now willingly collaborating with the Ordinary Boys? Lily Allen is what would happen if this trajectory continued for another couple of years.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), June 2nd, 2006.

NEW CONTENT PLZ


Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Alex you know I have a lot of time for your opinions on music and will happily defer to you on most musical issues, so I hope you don't think I'm being unnecessarily contrary when I ask "where on earth is the Britpop in Lily Allen's music?"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)


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