Gang Gang Dance LP

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These fuckers need to play Glastonbury next year, they'd be perfect in some tent somewhere.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Saturday, 29 November 2008 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i was thinking they'd be big at bonnaroo. hippie kids would dig it.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 30 November 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)

"Are you kidding? I love God's Money, but the new album is ten times the strength of God's Money, easily the best music they've put to tape."

I don't think the material is terribly lacking. But the new record does a lousy job of showcasing the drummer. He's so good and his input is so understated on this record. It's a shame because live they were awesome.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:36 (seventeen years ago)

"I don't think the material is terribly lacking. But the new record does a lousy job of showcasing the drummer. He's so good and his input is so understated on this record. It's a shame because live they were awesome."

This is OTM and I hadn't really thought about it because there is so much going on in the album its easy to forget about the drummer. However, the parts were the drums are more pronounced definitely kick ass, so I totally get your point.

oscar, Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:44 (seventeen years ago)

songs that are more sort of drifty-dreamy on the album really cooked live, which definitely had a lot to do with the prominence of the drums. i mean, i like the vibe of the album. but the energy of the live show was a whole other thing.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:49 (seventeen years ago)

this album i feel like is the black dice album i never knew i always wanted except with tinchy stryder bonus track that could never happen but here is also that yknow

negotiable, Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:54 (seventeen years ago)

I played this recently in the company of my dad who has a pretty narrowly defined classic blues/soul taste continuum and he called it "interesting"
My album of the year anyway

theslothproject, Sunday, 30 November 2008 04:17 (seventeen years ago)

I wish GGD left the Tinchy song off of the album. When ilm revisits this thread in a few years, you will all agree with me and curse GGD for time-stamping this wonderful album. The rest of the album is great, though. I'm not sure I'd say it's better than God's Money. This album seems a little too current and blog-influenced. Whereas God's Money was like their own planet, this album's more like...oh. They live in New York and want to be cool RIGHT NOW. :/

brightscreamer, Sunday, 30 November 2008 04:58 (seventeen years ago)

ENDLESS COOL

oscar, Sunday, 30 November 2008 05:06 (seventeen years ago)

are those brooklyn accents for reals? didn't know if they were kidding during the spoken moments at the show

psychgawsple, Sunday, 30 November 2008 06:18 (seventeen years ago)

When ilm revisits this thread in a few years, you will all agree with me and curse GGD for time-stamping this wonderful album.

This is missing the point really. As Tim mentioned upthread, the album (and especially that middle section) is awash with UK garage influences, among others. The xylophone hook on Inners Space is pure garage, and there's bits off of dubstep in here as well (although I think dubsteps blends much more easily into the overall warp and weft here). It is totally natural that someone like Tinchy turn up on here.

Considering Tinchy's been knocking round for nearly five years already, he's hardly a flash in the pan in any sense. Unless there's a kind of 'experimental indie rock = timeless, other stuff = fad' snobbery at work here that totally goes against the vibe the band are going for.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Sunday, 30 November 2008 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

Also several references to reggaeton.

I actually like the fact that they don't seem much to care about blending together "timeless" and "fashionable" sounds - again, this is what always seemed unique and marvelous about The Beta Band at their best (The Beta Band pulled a similar stunt of releasing a 2-step garage track at the tail end of 1999). Capital I indie (which Gang Gang Dance) usually spends far too much time strenuously avoiding pop music fads.

Although if you want to be really shocked check out the rap track on Jim Moray's album!! That makes GGD look very subtle.

Tim F, Sunday, 30 November 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

Haha I was going to mention the Beta Band (Hot Shots II really) but thought that would be too corny indie fuxx. What I liked about Hot Shots II was that it sounded really fucking ancient but at the same time like something that couldn't have emerged at any previous moment. Saint Dymphna is similar in that regard.

I'm not trying to over-emphasise the garage influences here, they're an equal ingredient alongside dozens of other things, but to criticise GGD for "time-stamping" a record that is very consciously of it's time seems to be missing the point. See also the synth stabs on House Jam that seemingly come straight out of The Way I Are.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Sunday, 30 November 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, this is totally brilliant.

― Tim F, Monday, October 27, 2008 8:47 PM (1 month ago)

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 07:50 (seventeen years ago)

Fact Magazine calls it

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/fact-magazine-picks-gang-gang-dances-isaint-dymphn/23767/

oscar, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

I've never heard of Fact Magazine, but that seems like the exact list a mid-level indie fuxxor from the US would make.

i'm being dismissive of these albums, but - it has your Animal Collective-ish bands (Ponytail, Gang Gang Dance, High Places) american indie-with-a-good-story (No Age, Jay Reatard, Deerhunter) run-off from Burial last year (The Bug, 2563, Flying Lotus) "good times" from New York (Vampire Weekend, Hercules and Love Affair, MGMT)

*disclaimer - i would probably consider myself a mid-level indie fuxxor from the US

Andrew Sandwich, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:18 (seventeen years ago)

anyone else think Tinchy's rap might've worked better on 'Inners Pace"?
the sloppy drums on 'Princes' are still buggin' me but i like it OK

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:21 (seventeen years ago)

calling the bug album "run-off from burial last year" is one of the lamest things i've read on ilm, which is saying something

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:29 (seventeen years ago)

"I've never heard of Fact Magazine, but that seems like the exact list a mid-level indie fuxxor from the US would make."

Fact is basically the UK version of XLR8R.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

this album is terrible y'all are nuts

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

Hahaha

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

calling the bug album "run-off from burial last year" is one of the lamest things i've read on ilm, which is saying something

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:29 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

mightnt be strictly correct, but the sentiment is spot-on.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

uh re the sandwich post i mean, not lex.

re ggd: i gave them a go in i dunno, 2004 and decided that they were bad ny dj/spookyrupture toss, and then reconcurred with myself from afar upon seeing subsequent riddim n grime waffle. i saw them live this summer as well, and it was all soundscapes maaaan. (okay, though.) i'm gonna put this album on now.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)

"decided that they were bad ny dj/spookyrupture toss"

Nonsense.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

i absolutely love saint dymphna. what else should i get?

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

God's Money

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

And the Rawwwwar EP or whatever it's called.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

And then you can probably stop.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

i saw you guys talking about this in the SF thread and was intrigued. then i bought the album on a whim and now i am bummed i missed that show.

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

thanks for the recommendations alex.

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

not a single bad track on SD that's for sure. Rawwwwar is my pretty much what it did to my head. it almost dares you to like it.

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:22 (seventeen years ago)

Brilliant record, but I've heard they can be awful live. Should I try to see if this is true or not?

Mister Craig, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

nonsense in 2004? i don't know, it mightve been, i didnt have a lot to go on. i took into account the context, and the reception, and the little label the record store man wrote.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

I think it depends on the price haha. The previous SF show sounds like it was crappy, but I thought they were pretty good this tour.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

the previous SF Show was horrendous... it was at the Independent and they had a major equipment malfunction after 10 minutes followed by a huge temper tantrum. Did not get a refund either! fukkerz.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

fukkerz artistes

negotiable, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

i have seen this band 3-4 times, none of these was disappointing in the least. did they play the independent twice? i remember seeing them there a few years back and i dug it

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

oh shit, they've played here a bunch. this was their first SF show... it was like fall 2005. with tussle.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

Wednesday, October 5th, 2005 according to SFBG 8-days calendar archive.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

omg, this is funny tho... <3 google:

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(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

(scroll down past ads following OP)

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

lololol

unfortunately i feel the need to respond to this.
we(GGD) were flown to SF to play that one show, therefore we were gauranteed a backline and a soundcheck(not unreasonable considering that without a backline our instruments dont make any sound). we arrived at the venue four hours early on the day of the show just to take extra precautions........soundchecks often "magically" disappear from certain venues list of priorities. anyway.....we arrived to find the promised and necessary backline nowhere to be found.....waited two of our four precious hours for borrowed amps to arrive from the very gracious openers. we set up our equipment with a more than adequate amount of time left to soundcheck, but for some unknown reason the "soundperson" at the independent spent roughly 1hour and 45minutes of those two remaining hours running around on the phone, talking to me about his collection of music equipment, asking me if i listened to captain beefheart, and generally being an absolutely passive aggressive condescending prick. so we were left with fifteen minutes to check and during those fifteen minutes encountered more problems than we've ever had on a stage. the DI's that the prickman gave me were all fucked and cutting out, he wouldnt listen to a single thing we suggested, and he sat at the soundboard talking on the phone until finally he approached the stage and told us we had to "get things moving" and that he had to start soundchecking the other bands due to a "lack of time". i told him straight up that we werent going to be able to play if he didnt help us figure something out....that it actually technically was not going to work....and he pointed to his watch and began "helping" us move our useless gear off stage. come showtime.....we made a decision to just play in hopes that something would miraculously occur and the crappy amps and DI's would decide to work. what else could we do? when you have the majority of the staff at a venue yelling at you to get on stage, yelling at you to play when your onstage, yelling at you because your scowling at the fact that the sound is fucked(even though you had told them that before),etc,etc,etc....and your onstage in front of a roomful people whom you so very much want to play to and share your music with, and that very same audience begins yelling "play already!"....and no matter what you try you cannot get anything to work......well, emotions tend to run a little high and sometimes we cant all be so cool as to laugh it off and go with the flow and pretend that its a very comfortable and welcoming and patient situation and just try, as one of you put it, to" stick it out and figure out what the problem is". we stuck it out for four hours earlier in the day and we were completely disrespected by the alltime worst soundperson we've ever dealt with.
so.....while i am not trying to write this as a 'fuck you very much for your comments' type thing....i do wish you would be a little more understanding. had you been through the frustrations of our day you may very well have given up at that point as well. i apologise for the fact that so many people came to see us.....and didnt really see us at all, but it really was out of our hands by that time.
and if you are still unforgiving, then yes, fuck you very much.
------------------"keys boy" uffing it all---------BDG/GGD

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

they could still give a refund! lammmmmme

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

refund probably the venue's decision too, no?

I've seen em once when it was just ok and once when it was super good (both in the past 2 months)

dmr, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 03:30 (seventeen years ago)

"i took into account the context, and the reception, and the little label the record store man wrote."

The little label had refs to spooky/rupture on it? Sounds far-fetched.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 03:36 (seventeen years ago)

no your honour, if i recall correctly the label vaguely referred to new york, world music mixology, tapes, dub, and so on, which to my then mind appeared more theoretical in intention than the generic organic noize band blurb that was fashionable at the time. future "riddim dvd" type releases only seemed to bear this inference out.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

Bummer about the sound guy but maybe an hour long noise set on broken gear would have been a better "fuck you very much" than just walking away?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

calling the bug album "run-off from burial last year" is one of the lamest things i've read on ilm, which is saying something

Well, if the Sandwich dude means 'this year's broadsheet-friendly token dubstep-affiliated album' then he's right. I think he's just being lame though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:40 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

am i the only one who likes this revival of the shittest thing i got off of slsk?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

GGD reminds me a lot of "Waking the Witch." Also, whoever described the sound as "stacking" upthread is otm.

looking for a real life bromance (vermonter), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:53 (seventeen years ago)


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