In my previous comment ("I count 11 that are nearly a dead lock for their top 15 albums of the year") I was referring to all of those, except I had Arcade Fire instead of Joanna Newsom.
ahh nice, i missed that, sorry, too many posts in thread :(
wouldn't be surprised if arcade fire was a bit lower this year, maybe 16-25 range. pfork didnt rate too highly, seems like "sprawl II" kinda stole all the album's attention, plus all the other crits are going nuts over arcade fire this year, so seems like a good time for pfork to dial back the hype a bit: "guys, we like the arcade fire, i mean, we basically introduced them to the world 5 yrs ago, but they've made better albums than this one"
I think Arcade Fire and Vampire Weekend both have 'chances' at their top 10.
good call on vamp week, i could see that going top ten ~~~maybe~~~
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
cos that's my rdme day xp
― O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
did the national have a track in pfork's entire top 100? I must've missed it -- was "bloodbuzz ohio" in there at all?? (if not, major props, btw)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone explain "I Can Change" to me. One of my least favorite songs on the LCD Soundsystem record.
My second favourite - the backing just works for me in that 80s quirky groove vein.
― modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Bloobuzz was #66, considerably lower than I would have expected it to be.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
pfork doing the same thing w/ the national as arcade fire -- "attn all other critics: we hyped these guys back when they were making better albums"
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost. Years ago Q used to have a little box on the reviews page where they picked out great tracks from otherwise shitty albums. I loved that. My favourite tracks in Pitchfork and Stylus were often freak standouts from albums and EPs.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
see also: christgau's column, wasnt it called "choice cuts" or something?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
It's criticism as public service - "I listened to this pile of average albums just so I could tell you about a couple of great songs you wouldn't otherwise have known about."
I do miss the Stylus list.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
that radio dept album needs more love.
― Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought Maserati & Rene Hell would have made more lists.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
two huge, mainstream pop albums that haven't appeared on *any* lists yet:
Katy Perry - Teenage DreamKe$ha - Animal
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
tbf no one outside of Radio Disney or the AMAs is going to rank those albums
it's like how the reader's choice poll in TV Guide picked Supernatural as the season's best television show
― "Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
let us hope this state of affairs continues.
xp
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
they're gonna place in P&J (and the Village Voice is pimping HARD for Katy Perry) -- question is, how high/low?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Katy Perry blows tbh
― skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
you could say the album is DROWNING in bad ideas
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:43 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Didn't "Tik Tok" have the longest streak at #1 on the Billboard charts for a female artist since the 70s or something crazy like that? IMO, the song "Teenage Dream" is definitely worthy of an indie publication's approval. I guess I don't see how "Rude Boy" and "Telephone" are much "better" objectively.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone know if The Wire list is out yet?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
it's upthread, there was an awesome deej 'n Whiney minishow over it
― "Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
reposting:
The Wire top 50
01 Actress - Splazsh02 Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal03 Swans - My father will guide me up a rope to the sky04 Joanna Newsom - Have one on me05 Catherine Christer Hennix - The electric harpsichord06 Rangers - Suburban tours07 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before today08 John Tilbury & Sebastian Lexer - Last daylight09 Keith Fullerton Whitman - Disengenuity/Disengenuousness10 Kevin Drumm - Necro accoustic11 Sun City Girls - Funeral mariachi12 Annette Krebs & Taku Unami - Motobachii13 Sun Araw - On patrol14 Gonjasufi - A sufi and a killer15 Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot16 Joe Colley - Disasters of self17 Richard Skelton - Landings18 Emeralds - Does it look like I'm here?19 Eleh - Location momentum20 Autechre - Oversteps21 Helena Gough - Mikroklimata22 Demdike Stare - Liberation through hearing23 Marina Rosenfeld - Plastic materials24 Bill Orcutt - Way down south25 Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma26 Bellows - Handcut27 Tilbury/Duch/Davies - Conrenius Cardew: Works 1960-197028 Hype Williams - s/t29 Laurie Anderson - Homeland30 Konono No 1 - Assume crash position31 Zs - New slaves32 Phew - Five finger discount33 Sabbathh Assembly - Restored to one34 Derek Bailey - More 7435 Seijaku - Mail from Fushitsua36 Tyler the Creator - Bastard37 Moon Wiring Club A spare tabby at the cat's wedding38 Larry Polansky - The world's largest melody39 Alasdair Galbraith - Mass40 Jailbreak - The Rocker41 oOoOO - oOoOO42 Pedestrian Deposit - East fork/North fork43 Group Inerane - Guitars from Agadaz vol 344 Prins Thomas - s/t45 These New Puritans - Hidden46 Aldo Clementi - Works with flutes47 Graham Lambkin & Jason Lescalleet - Air supply48 Joseph Hammer - I love you, please love me too49 Joshua Abrams - Natural information50 Grinderman 2
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Not heard of Actress. Would I like it?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
if you like this, you'll probably dig the whole aesthetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcnRT-m9MYo
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks! I've been in a training class, and am behind!
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
It doesn't seem to go anywhere but maybe It needs to be heard as an album not just 1 track.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
xps, but following on from my previous post: Like, if you like the song and think it's one of the best of the year, should it get penalized because it appears on an album you think is one of the best of the year? What if the song on its own stands out in a manner differently from how it blends into the album?
This makes sense, and I have this argument every year with myself. The other dilemma: ranking a single whose album made your top ten last year.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
"The House That Built Me"?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
XXP: There's a lot to admire in that album but it doesn't have a grip on my heart.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
and "American Saturday Night."
xpost
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Treblezine - The Top 50 Albums of 2010
Back to class *sigh*. Stupid work is getting in the way of my listening to the several dozen albums I haven't gotten around to yet!
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
TIME Magazine - Top 10 Albums
* Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy * Arcade Fire, The Suburbs * LCD Soundsystem, This Is Happening * The National, High Violet * Drake, Thank Me Later * Sufjan Stevens, Age of Adz * The Black Keys, Brothers * Yeasayer, Odd Blood * Big Boi, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty * Beach House, Teen Dream
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
much more interesting:
TIME Magazine - Top 10 Buzzwords
* Vuvuzela * Top Kill/Junk Shot/Static Kill/Top Hat * Bedbugs * Eyjafjallajokull * Austerity * Anchor Babies * Mama Grizzlies * Release the Kraken! * Double-dip * Bunga bunga
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
okay seriously, I didn't even know Yeaseayer or Beach House EXISTED before these lists
― "Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I knew music existed before I read these lists.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
* Top Kill/Junk Shot/Static Kill/Top Hat* Anchor Babies* Release the Kraken!* Bunga bunga
^^what the shit are these
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
My ILM passwords.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
SRSLY -- wish we had those kinda surprises on year-end lists too!
xp to lex
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:28 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah, i can't really argue with that either, but that's also precisely why i think it's more interesting/rewarding to do a tracks list that's geared towards covering singles, whether it's chart fodder or stuff in non-album formats or single-driven genres, etc. if it's nearly all the same artists as your corresponding albums list it's kind of pointless.
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
lex -- answers here:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2035319_2034745,00.html
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean deej makes fun of me for putting songs on my P&J ballot the year they're hits even if it's the year after they first surface, but that's just how i roll. i might be one of the only P&J voters whose whole top 10 tracks have charted on the Hot 100 most years. (xpost)
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
* Top Kill/Junk Shot/Static Kill/Top Hat
this was a Sonic Youth song, I think it was on Sister -- not sure why it's on a 2010 list
― pixel farmer, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
haha three of those were actually really useful & interesting to know, fuck a wacky film catchphrase tho
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't "Tik Tok" have the longest streak at #1 on the Billboard charts for a female artist since the 70s or something crazy like that?
I think for a debut single only. (I'm guessing the precedent was "You Light Up My Life.")
― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
great top 100, even better writing:
http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2010.php
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
TIME Top 10 New Species
Beaked ToadDarwin's Bark SpiderHigh-Altitude Tree AntMossula KatydidPea-Sized Pitcher Plant FrogEcuadorean Glass FrogGiant Woolly RatTube-Nosed Fruit BatBluetooth TarantulaFive-Foot Penguin
― seandalai, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Boston Phoenix's 100 Essential Hip-Hop Songs of 2010: http://thephoenix.com/Boston/music/112769-100-essential-hip-hop-tracks-for-2010/. I'll C+P the list in a sec.
― slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
wonder if we could think of musicians/albums that match up well to those species names
could make a great list
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Full Boston Phoenix 100 Essential Hip-Hop Tracks of 2010 list:
100. Rae, Ghost & Meth - "Gunshowers"99. Moe Pope & Rain - "Rock Me"98. Black Rob - "Just Holler At Me First"97. 7L & Esoteric featuring Inspectah Deck - "12th Chamber"96. J. Cole - "Before I'm Gone"95. Akrobatik - "Rap Royalty" (RIP Guru)94. Asher Roth - "Muddy Swim Trunks"93. Crown Royale - "Get It Up"92. Grand Daddy IU - "The Veteran"91. Reflection Eternal - "Ballad of the Black Gold"
90. Homeboy Sandman - "Calm Tornado"
89. Necro - "Asshole Anthem"88. Nottz featuring Mayer Hawthorne - "I Still Love You"87. Vinnie Paz - "Role of Life"86. Mickey Factz - "Good Morning New Orleans"85. Q-Unique - "Crack Era"84. RADIx - "Say Yes"83. Rakaa - "C.T.D."82. Reef the Lost Cauze & Guns-N-Butter - "Get Me Outta Here"81. Reks - "This or That"
80. Roc Marciano - "Raw Deal"79. Frankie Wainwright - "Bodies Everywhere"78. Super Chron Flight Brothers - "Reggie Miller"77. Jaysaun - "On Your Job"76. Kil Ripken - "Not You"75. Gangrene - "Take Drugs"74. Freeway & Jake One featuring Young Chris - "Microphone Killa"73. Time Crisis featuring partyboobytrap - "Heaven"72. Fat Joe - "I'm Gone"71. Factor - "Lawson Graham"
70. Eternia & Moss - "Any Man"69. Dubb Sicks - "Tha Anthem"68. Fresh Vetz - "Hard Hatz"67. Amadeus the Stampede - "Scars of Life"66. Cymarshall Law & The Beatnikz - "Believe This"65. Nas & Damian Marley - "As We Enter"64. Dark Time Sunshine featuring Qwel, Xperience, & Solillaquists of Sound - "Instructions to Numb"63. Click Animosity - "Via Frontlines"62. N.B.S. - "Who Are We?" (Celtics Anthem)61. Ceschi - "Bad Jokes"
60. Celph-Titled & Buckwild - "Where I Are"59. Canibus - "Merchant of Metaphors"58. Ill Bill & DJ Muggs featuring Vinnie Paz & B-Real - "Kill Devil Hills"57. J the S - "Middle of the Storm"56. Kidz in the Hall - "Bougie Girls"55. Marco Polo & Ruste Juxx - "Death Penalty"54. Dessa - "Matches to Paper Dolls"53. Moe Green - "Iced Out Lifestyle"52. Trademark da Skydiver - "Dead Fool"51. Slaine featuring Jaysaun - "Goin' Down"
50. Omar Offendum - "Destiny"49. Singapore Kane - "Tom & Jerry"48. B. Dolan - "Marvin"47. Tom Caruana/Method Man (Wu-Tang vs. The Beatles) - "Uh Huh"46. MC Paul Barman - "Props"45. Hybrid Thoughts featuring Craig G - "Back Then"44. Snowgoons featuring M-Dot & KrumbSnatcha - "Hate on Me"43. ChocQuibTown - "De Donde Vengo Yo"42. Skipp Whitman - "Famous"41. Statik Selektah & Termanology featuring Styles P - "Tell Me Lies"
40. Black EL x Durkin - "100 Miles"39. Chiddy Bang - "Truth"38. Public Enemy - "Say It Like It Really Is"37. Rip Shop - "Hood Luv"36. TruthLive - "It's Easy"35. Masta Killa - "Brain"34. El Da Sensei & The Returners featuring Reks & John Robinson - "Toxic Words"33. Freddie Gibbs featuring Tek & Sean Price - "The Ghetto" (Remix)32. Virtuoso - "Propaganda"31. Hell Razah featuring R.A. the Rugged Man - "Return of the Renaissance"
30. M-Dot & Jean Maron featuring Masta Ace - "You Don't Know About It"29. Eminem - "Untitled" (Recovery Bonus Track)28. Slaine, ILL Bill & Q-Unique - "Science of the Trife"27. Blacastan featuring Colombeyond - "Martyrs"26. Elemental Zazen - "Lockjaw"25. Pace Won & Mr. Green - "Liquor & Drugs"24. The High Life - "We Came To Rock"23. Black Milk featuring Royce da 5'9" & Elzhi - "Deadly Medley"22. Evidence - "To Be Continued..."21. Sage Francis - "The Best of Times"
20. E the Real featuring Louie Gonz (a/k/a Spit Supreme) - "The Network Game"19. C-Rayz Walz - "Destroy"18. Atmosphere - "The Best Day"17. Capone-N-Noreaga - "Favor for a Favor"16. KRS-One & Tru Master featuring Cappadonna - "Street Rhymer"15. The Roots - "How I Got Over"14. Big Boi - "General Patton"13. Warghosts - "Chase the Dragon"12. V8 & Shortrock - "Los Edwardos"11. Devin the Dude - "What I Be On"
10. Defcon & Outwrite - "Superfly"9. Ana Tijoux - "Sube"8. Army of the Pharaohs - "Bust 'Em In"7. Donwill - "Laura's Song"6. Ron Contour - "Glad"5. Raekwon, Method Man, Ghostface Killah, Ice da Don, Inspectah Deck - "All Flowers"4. El-P - "Lab Rat Bravely Escapes on Hovercraft Only To Crash Directly Outside of Gates"3. Sean Price - "Sabado Gigante"2. A.G. - "Henne Berri Daquiri"1. Nas - "Foul Breeze"
― slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i like that list. that list is me on youtube when i go home tonight.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Five-Foot Penguin
That's a lot of feet!!
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link