2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

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yeah corsano is ths best. that rangda is def in my top 20

skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

so both trill og and mbdtf got 5 mics? ew. bring back benzino.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

xps, but following on from my previous post: Like, if you like the song and think it's one of the best of the year, should it get penalized because it appears on an album you think is one of the best of the year? What if the song on its own stands out in a manner differently from how it blends into the album?

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that too. Pitchfork tracks list would be much more interesting if they scrubbed everything by artists in their albums list. Not necessarily more representative of their taste, but still...

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:50 AM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't think it's necessary to go that far, and to a certain extent I'd expect someone's favorite tracks to be included amongst their favorite albums, but I think the ordering often seems to mirror the album list much too closely. I can see that Titus Andronicus track ending up 75 in their poll and the editors saying, 'shit, we better bump this up to reflect the fact that the album was one of our favorites.'

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

ok looking at albums that got an XXL is maybe even worse. Really need a proper fucking rap rag since rip hhc.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

ok looking at albums that got an XXL is maybe even worse. Really need a proper fucking rap rag since rip hhc.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

ok looking at albums that got an XXL is maybe even worse. Really need a proper fucking rap rag since rip hhc.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

KInda odd that Rangda wasn't on the wire list, now you mention them, scott.

O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

xps, but following on from my previous post: Like, if you like the song and think it's one of the best of the year, should it get penalized because it appears on an album you think is one of the best of the year? What if the song on its own stands out in a manner differently from how it blends into the album?

Totally, not saying they should do that, just that it'd be interesting. More so than a top 10 of tracks culled from the same Arcade Fire, Beach House and LCD Soundsystem albums they're voting for on the other list.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, but I think you can actually make that argument for "Dance Yrself Clean" or "One Touch", so it seems like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too with the examples you're using.

I think a non-album track list would be awesome but that's a decidedly and intentionally different list from "best songs of the year".

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the ordering often seems to mirror the album list much too closely.

let me be the first to guess at the pfork top ten without seeing anything in the top 50 or honorable mentions list, mostly based on the trax list, album rankings, and a few other factors:

- kanye west (two tracks in top 10, plus 10.0 rating, obv.)
- ariel pink (#1 track, breakout album, 9.0 rating, major chillwave influence)
- lcd soundsystem (tracks ranked at #3 and #12, 9.2 rating)
- robyn (best "pop" track of 2010, endless pfork hype, three highly rated albums/EPs)
- big boi (#5 track, most highly praised "actual hip-hop/rap" album of 2010 [kanye doesnt count])
- joanna newsom (#6 track, 9.0+ rating [9.2 maybe?])
- janelle monae (#10 track, "cold war" hot as well, most highly praised r&b album of 2010 while not being "traditional r&b")
- deerhunter (not sure why this got a 9.2, but it has two trax in top 30-40-ish area, incl. #11)

plus, two of the following three, making 10 total:

- beach house (another couple highly ranked trax, 9.0 rating, breakout album for a band pfork's been hyping for years)
- sleigh bells ("best new debut album") -- though this could fall in 11-15 and i wouldn't be surprised
- titus andronicus (great/praised album by an "albums band" despite no track in the top 15 or so)

highly ranked trax artists that wont rank in top 10: james blake (no full length), arcade fire (expecting top 11-25), caribou will be somewhere right under top ten (maybe 11-15?), crystal castles, girl unit, erykah badu, how to dress well

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i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

there's no girl unit album either

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

that too

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, are there any other serious contenders for pfork top ten? i guess i could see caribou getting into 6-10 range, slim possibility, but that's about it... right?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

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― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:07 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

In my previous comment ("I count 11 that are nearly a dead lock for their top 15 albums of the year") I was referring to all of those, except I had Arcade Fire instead of Joanna Newsom.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Arcade Fire and Vampire Weekend both have 'chances' at their top 10. I think the Walkmen, Radio Dept., No Age, and National albums will likely be high--top 20 or 25.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

guys, i just can't wait for friday

skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

In my previous comment ("I count 11 that are nearly a dead lock for their top 15 albums of the year") I was referring to all of those, except I had Arcade Fire instead of Joanna Newsom.

ahh nice, i missed that, sorry, too many posts in thread :(

wouldn't be surprised if arcade fire was a bit lower this year, maybe 16-25 range. pfork didnt rate too highly, seems like "sprawl II" kinda stole all the album's attention, plus all the other crits are going nuts over arcade fire this year, so seems like a good time for pfork to dial back the hype a bit: "guys, we like the arcade fire, i mean, we basically introduced them to the world 5 yrs ago, but they've made better albums than this one"

I think Arcade Fire and Vampire Weekend both have 'chances' at their top 10.

good call on vamp week, i could see that going top ten ~~~maybe~~~

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

cos that's my rdme day xp

O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

did the national have a track in pfork's entire top 100? I must've missed it -- was "bloodbuzz ohio" in there at all?? (if not, major props, btw)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone explain "I Can Change" to me. One of my least favorite songs on the LCD Soundsystem record.

My second favourite - the backing just works for me in that 80s quirky groove vein.

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Bloobuzz was #66, considerably lower than I would have expected it to be.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

pfork doing the same thing w/ the national as arcade fire -- "attn all other critics: we hyped these guys back when they were making better albums"

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost. Years ago Q used to have a little box on the reviews page where they picked out great tracks from otherwise shitty albums. I loved that. My favourite tracks in Pitchfork and Stylus were often freak standouts from albums and EPs.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

see also: christgau's column, wasnt it called "choice cuts" or something?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

It's criticism as public service - "I listened to this pile of average albums just so I could tell you about a couple of great songs you wouldn't otherwise have known about."

I do miss the Stylus list.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

that radio dept album needs more love.

Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought Maserati & Rene Hell would have made more lists.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

two huge, mainstream pop albums that haven't appeared on *any* lists yet:

Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
Ke$ha - Animal

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf no one outside of Radio Disney or the AMAs is going to rank those albums

it's like how the reader's choice poll in TV Guide picked Supernatural as the season's best television show

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

let us hope this state of affairs continues.

xp

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

they're gonna place in P&J (and the Village Voice is pimping HARD for Katy Perry) -- question is, how high/low?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Katy Perry blows tbh

skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

you could say the album is DROWNING in bad ideas

skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

two huge, mainstream pop albums that haven't appeared on *any* lists yet:

Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
Ke$ha - Animal

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:43 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Didn't "Tik Tok" have the longest streak at #1 on the Billboard charts for a female artist since the 70s or something crazy like that? IMO, the song "Teenage Dream" is definitely worthy of an indie publication's approval. I guess I don't see how "Rude Boy" and "Telephone" are much "better" objectively.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone know if The Wire list is out yet?

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

it's upthread, there was an awesome deej 'n Whiney minishow over it

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

reposting:

The Wire top 50

01 Actress - Splazsh
02 Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
03 Swans - My father will guide me up a rope to the sky
04 Joanna Newsom - Have one on me
05 Catherine Christer Hennix - The electric harpsichord
06 Rangers - Suburban tours
07 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before today
08 John Tilbury & Sebastian Lexer - Last daylight
09 Keith Fullerton Whitman - Disengenuity/Disengenuousness
10 Kevin Drumm - Necro accoustic
11 Sun City Girls - Funeral mariachi
12 Annette Krebs & Taku Unami - Motobachii
13 Sun Araw - On patrol
14 Gonjasufi - A sufi and a killer
15 Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot
16 Joe Colley - Disasters of self
17 Richard Skelton - Landings
18 Emeralds - Does it look like I'm here?
19 Eleh - Location momentum
20 Autechre - Oversteps
21 Helena Gough - Mikroklimata
22 Demdike Stare - Liberation through hearing
23 Marina Rosenfeld - Plastic materials
24 Bill Orcutt - Way down south
25 Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
26 Bellows - Handcut
27 Tilbury/Duch/Davies - Conrenius Cardew: Works 1960-1970
28 Hype Williams - s/t
29 Laurie Anderson - Homeland
30 Konono No 1 - Assume crash position
31 Zs - New slaves
32 Phew - Five finger discount
33 Sabbathh Assembly - Restored to one
34 Derek Bailey - More 74
35 Seijaku - Mail from Fushitsua
36 Tyler the Creator - Bastard
37 Moon Wiring Club A spare tabby at the cat's wedding
38 Larry Polansky - The world's largest melody
39 Alasdair Galbraith - Mass
40 Jailbreak - The Rocker
41 oOoOO - oOoOO
42 Pedestrian Deposit - East fork/North fork
43 Group Inerane - Guitars from Agadaz vol 3
44 Prins Thomas - s/t
45 These New Puritans - Hidden
46 Aldo Clementi - Works with flutes
47 Graham Lambkin & Jason Lescalleet - Air supply
48 Joseph Hammer - I love you, please love me too
49 Joshua Abrams - Natural information
50 Grinderman 2

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Not heard of Actress. Would I like it?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

if you like this, you'll probably dig the whole aesthetic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcnRT-m9MYo

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks! I've been in a training class, and am behind!

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

It doesn't seem to go anywhere but maybe It needs to be heard as an album not just 1 track.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

xps, but following on from my previous post: Like, if you like the song and think it's one of the best of the year, should it get penalized because it appears on an album you think is one of the best of the year? What if the song on its own stands out in a manner differently from how it blends into the album?

This makes sense, and I have this argument every year with myself. The other dilemma: ranking a single whose album made your top ten last year.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"The House That Built Me"?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

XXP: There's a lot to admire in that album but it doesn't have a grip on my heart.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

and "American Saturday Night."

xpost

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Treblezine - The Top 50 Albums of 2010

Back to class *sigh*. Stupid work is getting in the way of my listening to the several dozen albums I haven't gotten around to yet!

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

TIME Magazine - Top 10 Albums

* Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
* Arcade Fire, The Suburbs
* LCD Soundsystem, This Is Happening
* The National, High Violet
* Drake, Thank Me Later
* Sufjan Stevens, Age of Adz
* The Black Keys, Brothers
* Yeasayer, Odd Blood
* Big Boi, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
* Beach House, Teen Dream

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

much more interesting:

TIME Magazine - Top 10 Buzzwords

* Vuvuzela
* Top Kill/Junk Shot/Static Kill/Top Hat
* Bedbugs
* Eyjafjallajokull
* Austerity
* Anchor Babies
* Mama Grizzlies
* Release the Kraken!
* Double-dip
* Bunga bunga

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

okay seriously, I didn't even know Yeaseayer or Beach House EXISTED before these lists

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link


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