great – another cluttered thread.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
im dissing the wire for including this for the same reason i praised the classic rock list for sticking to actual rock in its milieu
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
"<3 deej and whiney both, but h8 every "big" thread turning into a deej/whiney fite"
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/12500000/Maddie-and-David-moonlighting-12544639-500-377.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
weak zings arent worthy of sbs
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:32 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
why is ilx suddenly afraid of arguing about this shit? its more interesting than what was happening before imo
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:33 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
imo, trying to keep this 'deej whiney beef' meme going is, though
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
otm
― skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
Ok, I missed that Lil B writeup, must have forgotten about it.
― seandalai, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
ha, ilxor complaining about other people's posts, that'll be the day
least i dont turn every thread into shit like this? the day i have a partner in crime and we derail another 10 threads a day, maybe it'll be comparable
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i don't get why everyone is jumping down each other's throats here
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
btw, can someone post the wire genre lists so we can talk about something else?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:35 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark
HAHAHA YEAH THE DAY YOU GET A PARTNER IN CRIME. WHEN WILL THAT DAY EVER COME
tbh i dont see this as part of the deej-whiney handbags either. disagreeing about something > bitching about nothing.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
??? xp
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
anyway deej is right (about people being all up in arms over this thread)
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
~~~sigh~~~
oh no a thread about end of year lists has birthed a heated & zingy argument *clutches pearls*
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
deej, you really think you and whiney's tiresome arguing is better than anything else going on with ilm?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
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yes
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
The rock music thread is a pretty good read imo.
― seandalai, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
Someone explain "I Can Change" to me. One of my least favorite songs on the LCD Soundsystem record.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
Honestly don't think that rock music threads could be much less interesting than the kind of tedious rap handwringing on show here.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
And if we're going to criticize Pitchfork track listings, let's focus on how they're basically a reflection of their best albums of the year list with four or five pop/rap songs thrown into the top 20.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
(800 posts later) Thanks, Jordan.
― slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
"40 Jailbreak - The Rocker"
so is this just LOLcore thin lizzy mashups or something?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
idk both deej & whiney were making legit points, be it in their own special way
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
im not arguing with whiney im making a point and people are disagreeing with it.
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
the pfork list is fine but i'd much rather see the individual albums/trax ballots of various pfork writers
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
"Let us endlessly speculate on people's motives for liking rap music" is becoming my least favourite line of conversation ever.
This is always a failing with the indier lists here - see also P&J last year. Ideally a tracks list should go some way to highlighting the best of the vast amount of non-album based music that comes out every year. If it's just "oh here are our favourite tracks off the records in our favourite albums lists" then something's failing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
i'd much rather see the individual albums/trax ballots of various pfork writers
this is true of most publications really - the guardian's counting down its top 10 this week but i'm only tangentially interested, looking fwd more to individual ballots getting published
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
Ideally a tracks list should go some way to highlighting the best of the vast amount of non-album based music that comes out every year. If it's just "oh here are our favourite tracks off the records in our favourite albums lists" then something's failing.
OTMFM OTMFM. i don't even feel comfortable voting for songs like "yamaha" on a trax list, despite it being a massively important track-qua-track to my 2010, just cuz i'll be voting for love king.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
on the other hand, a lack of fresh perspectives / tastemakers making arguments for fresh aesthetic takes on rap seem fairly rare; even the source's attempt to retake some kind of narrative initiative this year w/ the 5 mics for bun b was a clumsy attempt at relevence
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:45 AM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Their top 20 tracks is made up of 18 artists. Of those 18 artists, I count 11 that are nearly a dead lock for their top 15 albums of the year.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
bun b was given 5 mics? lol cultural relevancy of the source
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
another valuable purpose: "90% of this album really blows, here's the one great track"
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
oh oops jailbreak is chris corsano. i should have known that i guess. him being local and all.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah that too. Pitchfork tracks list would be much more interesting if they scrubbed everything by artists in their albums list. Not necessarily more representative of their taste, but still...
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
That's dishonest in a different direction, though...?
― "Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
yes - will be repping for christina aguilera's "monday morning" on this basis
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
Scott, Jailbreak is a Heather Leigh/Chris Corsano thing on Family Vineyard. Haven't heard it, supposed to be a screamer though. lol xps
― O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
http://bit.ly/dYWwb2
― skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
chris rocks. saw him solo here last year and it was mindboggling. didn't go see rangda but maria did.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
yeah corsano is ths best. that rangda is def in my top 20
― skrrr boi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
so both trill og and mbdtf got 5 mics? ew. bring back benzino.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
xps, but following on from my previous post: Like, if you like the song and think it's one of the best of the year, should it get penalized because it appears on an album you think is one of the best of the year? What if the song on its own stands out in a manner differently from how it blends into the album?
― "Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:50 AM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I don't think it's necessary to go that far, and to a certain extent I'd expect someone's favorite tracks to be included amongst their favorite albums, but I think the ordering often seems to mirror the album list much too closely. I can see that Titus Andronicus track ending up 75 in their poll and the editors saying, 'shit, we better bump this up to reflect the fact that the album was one of our favorites.'
― Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
ok looking at albums that got an XXL is maybe even worse. Really need a proper fucking rap rag since rip hhc.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)
KInda odd that Rangda wasn't on the wire list, now you mention them, scott.
― O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)