2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

"You know why we should put this obscure Czech trumpet player on the cover? Because Pitchfork covered him first."

yeah, i was just surprised they were so open about it, because that to me is the textbook definition of critical dishonesty - diluting individual critics' opinions for the sake of some "greater good".

I thought it was more like, the editorial crew figure out roughly what kind of score it's going to get, then find someone in the pool of reviewers whose opinions concur - ie kinda manipulative, but not really at the expense of the critic(s)

Lil B & Odd Future are exactly who the Wire should be ranking in year end ish.

Sure, but it's not like they were covering Lil B in the main section of the magazine until "Rain in England".

oh my god please don't let this thread turn into another "how your pitchfork sausages gets made" boreathon

it seems weird to jump down their throats more than any other publication -- sure their magazine basically runs on a bunch of outsider records, but critically acclaimed albums are that for a reason, cuz lots of ppl like them -- it doesn't seem like a very hard thing to figure out

Can we set up a killfile so deej, whiney, and a hoy hoy just don't see each others posts?

"You know why we should put this obscure Czech trumpet player on the cover? Because Pitchfork covered him first."

― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:22 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

obviously they arent quite as confident when it comes to rap

sorry yeah agreed xps

Can we set up a killfile so deej, whiney, and a hoy hoy just don't see each others posts?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ PLEASEEEEEE

even if critics pay more attention to the album because dude was in one of the most beloved rap groups of all time for 20 years

Sure, but it's not like they were covering Lil B in the main section of the magazine until "Rain in England".

― seandalai, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:24 (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rong, they did a page on him pretty early, I think before the thread on here got started for example

it seems weird to jump down their throats more than any other publication -- sure their magazine basically runs on a bunch of outsider records, but critically acclaimed albums are that for a reason, cuz lots of ppl like them -- it doesn't seem like a very hard thing to figure out

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its because they are typically so independent in other music worlds that big boi feels like a cop to critical consensus

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ PLEASEEEEEE

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:25 AM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dog

<3 deej and whiney both, but h8 every "big" thread turning into a deej/whiney fite

its because they are typically so independent in other music worlds that big boi feels like a cop to critical consensus

Or possibly that Big Boi album is much, much better than you think it is but you are too far down in the weeds to notice.

Guess which scenario EVERYONE on this thread thinks is more likely?

ts because they are typically so independent in other music worlds that big boi feels like a cop to critical consensus

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:25 AM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

idk man, this seems like some tinfoil hat shit

When Stylus still existed, our grading system was....more idiosyncratic, rarely matching the review's outcome. But we were less conscious about being tastemakers though.

ha, ilxor complaining about other people's posts, that'll be the day

yeah can we really avoid another debate on the merits of editorial oversight of album ratings

Or possibly that Big Boi album is much, much better than you think it is but you are too far down in the weeds to notice.

Guess which scenario EVERYONE on this thread thinks is more likely?

― "Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:27 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ilxors in enjoying critical consensus rap records shocker?

i mean,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exCJmFlVZGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIShafLwA4M

idk man, this seems like some tinfoil hat shit

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:28 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you yourself have clowned this record for its position as the music critic's rap record

Sure, but it's not like they were covering Lil B in the main section of the magazine until "Rain in England".

― seandalai, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

I dunno dawg, Noz was on that shit p early both on cb and in the wire.

"big boi learned everything he knows from merge records"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y4wE1e9WkKs/Sbhg_J7NweI/AAAAAAAAABY/3xDX0n7cNu8/s320/740.jpg

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE JACKA

you yourself have clowned this record for its position as the music critic's rap record

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:30 AM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah but i understand that a lot of (rock) critics like it so i don't get up in arms about it being on these lists

i hope other ppl are SBing whiney right now

great – another cluttered thread.

im dissing the wire for including this for the same reason i praised the classic rock list for sticking to actual rock in its milieu

"<3 deej and whiney both, but h8 every "big" thread turning into a deej/whiney fite"

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/12500000/Maddie-and-David-moonlighting-12544639-500-377.jpg

weak zings arent worthy of sbs

great – another cluttered thread.

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:32 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why is ilx suddenly afraid of arguing about this shit? its more interesting than what was happening before imo

weak zings arent worthy of sbs

― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:33 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imo, trying to keep this 'deej whiney beef' meme going is, though

otm

Ok, I missed that Lil B writeup, must have forgotten about it.

ha, ilxor complaining about other people's posts, that'll be the day

least i dont turn every thread into shit like this? the day i have a partner in crime and we derail another 10 threads a day, maybe it'll be comparable

yeah i don't get why everyone is jumping down each other's throats here

btw, can someone post the wire genre lists so we can talk about something else?

least i dont turn every thread into shit like this? the day i have a partner in crime and we derail another 10 threads a day, maybe it'll be comparable

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:35 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark

HAHAHA YEAH THE DAY YOU GET A PARTNER IN CRIME. WHEN WILL THAT DAY EVER COME

tbh i dont see this as part of the deej-whiney handbags either. disagreeing about something > bitching about nothing.

??? xp

anyway deej is right (about people being all up in arms over this thread)

~~~sigh~~~

oh no a thread about end of year lists has birthed a heated & zingy argument *clutches pearls*

deej, you really think you and whiney's tiresome arguing is better than anything else going on with ilm?

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yes

The rock music thread is a pretty good read imo.

Someone explain "I Can Change" to me. One of my least favorite songs on the LCD Soundsystem record.

Honestly don't think that rock music threads could be much less interesting than the kind of tedious rap handwringing on show here.

And if we're going to criticize Pitchfork track listings, let's focus on how they're basically a reflection of their best albums of the year list with four or five pop/rap songs thrown into the top 20.