does anyone still like Belle and Sebastian?

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'Landslide' is not very good - the breathiest performance I can recall by anyone since, or before, Carol Decker.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been listening to them a lot lately; all the albums, in fact, incl. 'Fold your hands...', which has enough classic songs to make it worth my while to skip though the bad ones.

Yeah, I still like B&S. It helps that I only started listening to them in 2001, and so missed all the cult stuff.

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like Belle and Sebastian. And I like "Hurley's Having Dreams", though it's not one of their finer moments.

You aren't listening to the Black Sessions. Well, maybe you are, but you must be listening to some other stuff too.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I only really started enjoying B&S via Dear Catastrophe Waitress, which is wonderful. It sort of helped me get into their older work.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I like them.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I got dragged along to their Melbourne show by a friends girlfriend (she promised to pay for drinks). Anyway, I got nice and sloshed beforehand, and kept yelling out for 'The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner', which is their only song I really like. The people in front of me started a petition to get me kicked out, and I was, but five minutes later I was back in with smuggled beer and vodka.

So, er, fuck their fans, I thought it was meant to be a fucking rock concert.

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 12 August 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this thread just supposed to be some sort of big fucking joke!?!??

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 12 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a very depressing one.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 August 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, maybe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 August 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

'Landslide' with Sarah singing would be good.

I had not heard the song, or indeed heard of it before I got the Fans Only DVD.

I was singing/humming it for weeks afterwards.

This must count for something.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 12 August 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

'Landslide' sounds like B&S covering the Spice Girls.

Surprisingly, this isn't such a bad thing.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 12 August 2004 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it sounds Phil Spectorish, and that sound was also an influence on the Spice Girls, so in that sense you're right.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 12 August 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps. But it also sounds JUST like the Spice Girls singing 'Stop'

There's the part where they sing something like 'la la la too fast/ la la la won't last' when the next line could very easily be 'Stop right now, thank you very much..'

I'm always a little disappointed that it isn't.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 12 August 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

> 'London Has Let Me Down, Again', 'Hurley', 'Pocketbook Angel'

as ailsa said, those aren't Black Sessions but really early unreleased demos that, er, somehow got leaked into the public domain by unscrupulous bootleggers with probable links to terrorism...

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Have I got them? Oh I wish Mooro was here...

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't 'Landslide' originally done with Evie Sands? It would have been a belter.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Somebody ought to cover "The Magic of a Kind Word" seeing as B&S obv. won't release it now. I know N. disagrees with me about this song. He described it as "rubbishy" IIRC.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss N.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

he's in a better place now.

I didn't realise Landslide had been done in the studio - only live I thought.

I've seen London has let me down et al tacked on to a few black sessions (which is Paris iirc) tapes.

Magic of a kind word is pretty crappy though

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 12 August 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard the Evie Sands version once only - Beanz played it at a Divine after show party. I think Mooro went and asked him who it was, and he said "Evie Sands" and also that it was likely to be released at some point. Has it ever been?

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think so. One for the box set, perhaps.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I know not Evie Sands.

The version I was on about was live, and badly breathless.

What is THE BLACK SESSIONS, then?

I think I heard 'The Magic Of A Kind Word' yesterday. How does it go?

the bellefox, Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

'Black Sessions' is the name given to a series of live sessions broadcast on France Inter, presented by John Peel-like figure Bernard Lenoir (Le rock, le soir… c'est Lenoir!). B&S did one back in 1998.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, those: I have heard those, yesterday. They are not as good as the Bootlegs.

the bellefox, Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Being for the benefit of Mrs Archel and other Brighton Bellenders, not to mention Leo Sayer fans:

(from B&S website)

Stuart DJ'ing in Brighton Thu 19th Aug - 2004


Stuart Murdoch will be the special guest DJ this Saturday night - August 21st - at Holdup at the Arc Club in Brighton, on the seafront. He'll play a two-hour set filled with indie classics and 80's pop hits. Doors are at 10pm and it's £5 in on the door, curfew at 3am. Go along and shake your thing!

Go along! Report Back!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

DJs are overrated, aren't they.

But some of them I like.

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

For the first time in agee, I'm listening to Stuart Murdoch's most emo moment, 'I'm Waking Up To Us'. Maybe he wrote it better with 'I'm A Cuckoo' but for now, it's getting me.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand half of that.

I have always said that that song was very very good. Are you saying that you now agree that I was right all along?

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven’t changed, how could I?
I’m pretty much the same person
I cannot keep the anger hidden anymore
But lucky for you, you are not around
My anger turns to pity and to love
The season has arrived

x-post, Oh, I always liked it - sorry bf!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Does emo mean emotional?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I never really got how similarly bitter 'The Stars Of Track & Field' was until Murdoch introduced it as such at the Botanics show.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ne meither.

JtN said that someone said that emo meant being angry about being sad. As you can see, I have not forgotten what he said, JtN, or whoever else it was.

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Report Back, you bastards.

I have heard it on the grapevine that Jordi was there.

(If there's one thing that really makes me fume, it is being sad!)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

I have also heard it on the grapevine that Our Heroes have been left off the Warchild CD, which is a great disappointment.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

OK, don't bother, misery gutses.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't there. I too would like some REPORTING BACK, please. I hope there were silver trousers.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Are you talking about the Don't Look Back show, yesterday?

From another board:

Phew...what a show...the spruced up Sinsiter sounded amazing, and that had to be the best Judy i've seen them play.....and what great seats, 4 rows from the front, slap bang in the middle! they also played....in not this order:

slow grafitti
dog on wheels
the loneliness of the middle distance runner
electronic renaissance
i'm a cuckoo
the boy with the arab strap
the wrong girl
if you find yourself caught in love

(and a couple of others i forget)

as I said there: Envy, thy name is me!

sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/29632983@N00/46732859/

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

Warning: contains Ken Chu content.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

I wondered about that War Child CD, as there was too much stuff for one CD.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

electronic renaissance, shut up

RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

The 45, 'I'm Waking Up To Us', is good!

So are the 2nd and last LPs. I played them, yesterday and today!

the bellefox, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I've played Dear Catastrophe Waitress
a heckuva lot over the last couple of months.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Can't you enunciate and still sound like you're providing some kind of support for your tone?
-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), March 26th, 2003.


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Tone support is for nasty bullies.
-- Tom (ebro...), March 26th, 2003.

What on earth is Tone Support, and why did I not ask this question 2.5 years ago?

the bellefox, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
I am going to a concert, this evening, in Hyde Park. I must still like them. WAITROSE MOVEMENT are playing too, but in a different tent. There is a Pimm's Bar, which I must smash.

It is a pity I woke up at 3 this morning.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

WAITROSE MOVEMENT is a fine name for a group.

I trust that they have reached the appropriate copyright agreements.

Were you planning to smash a Pimm's Bar, I would not advise doing so with Eno.

Which in itself would be a pity, but health and safety regulations exist for good reasons.

Perhaps one day I will think of one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

The Life Pursuit is their best in a long time. Consistently catchy songs.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the hatred for "Beyond the Sunrise".
It doesn't fit in with the rest of the album, or even the rest of their albums, for sure.

But if you were watching Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid for the first time, and the song was on the soundtrack, wouldn't you enjoy it?

Maybe not.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I still consider Dear Catastrophe Waitress to be better than The Life Pursuit. But I still like them, even though I have moved on to other things. It's nice when shuffle brings the odd song in.

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)


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