James Blake, Mt Kimbie, CD/SD

"fantastic mr fox is very blake-esque, but dancier. really like the 'evelyn' ep:"

I feel like a lot of "blake-esque" music owes something to Prefuse 73, but maybe I'm misplacing the roots of certain sounds/techniques.

Ya I'm that down with the singing in James Blake tunes.

it's probably right to look at prefuse as a godfather of the whole beat music scene (like the l.a. shit especially), but i don't hear a lot of specifics (as far as the beats and synths go) in common with the current crop.

(personally i kinda gave up on scott herren stuff...it always sounds great in the moment but doesn't stick at all)

or maybe hurting is otm:

http://www.thefader.com/2010/11/03/interview-fantastic-mr-fox/
Was that remix a similar sound to the hip-hop were producing?
The sound palette is the same. I kind of look to hip-hop for the sounds of like, high hats and snares and bass drums. I always try to get the sound like Prefuse 73 and Madlib, I look up to them a lot in terms of drum songs, then it’s transferring those noises to a different BPM. All of a sudden I realized it’s a lot more exciting and a lot more fun to produce at a tempo I wasn’t used to, but using sounds from the genre I was comfortable with. Before the whole dubstep thing blew up, I’d go to club nights and they never played anything I 100% liked, but now that depth and complexity of Prefuse 73 has been transferred to dance music everywhere. It’s a good time.

I guess I was primarily thinking of the whole ultra-cut-up vocal/musical glitch thing.

ive hit the CMYK ep like 3 times today, i dont know why it took so long to click with me.

Fantastic Mr Fox did a great EP last year with an old mate of mine from manchester Rich Reason, soca tinged galloping housey crossover stuff.

but like hasnt the vocal glitch been sortof a thing w/ post dubstep as a whole? im thinking like the four tet album and burial at the very least.

yeah, my sense is that the cut-up vocals are coming from a different source, like uk dance music that i wasn't paying much attention to yet, but that burial really solidified the whole ghostly stitching-together of different r&b acapellas thing.

also, for all the cutting & pasting, i don't feel like "glitchiness" is really an aesthetic goal for this music.

i don't feel like "glitchiness" is really an aesthetic goal for this music.

It is for Mt Kimbie I'd say - that's one of the main things they're bringing to the table.

but like hasnt the vocal glitch been sortof a thing w/ post dubstep as a whole? im thinking like the four tet album and burial at the very least.

― plax (ico), Thursday, December 9, 2010 4:28 PM Bookmark

Yeah, I think it has, just saying that I feel like a lot of that traces back to Prefuse 73.

Was gonna posit the Sunship remix of Sweet Female Attitude's "Flowers", but I guess the current post-dubstep crowd may well have listened to more Prefuse73 than late 90s UK garage classics despite dubstep's garage lineage, so, eh

(obv there are older antecedents, was just thinking in terms of genre boundaries which I guess don't apply any more anyway)

Todd Edwards to some extent exerted influence here.. Maybe...

(in terms of vocal cutup glitch maneuvers) but yeah not sure how much of the post-dubstep landscape acknowledged him as much as older UKG lineage.

as much as the older UKG producers DID, I mean

but like hasnt the vocal glitch been sortof a thing w/ post dubstep as a whole? im thinking like the four tet album and burial at the very least.

― plax (ico), Thursday, December 9, 2010 4:28 PM Bookmark

Yeah, I think it has, just saying that I feel like a lot of that traces back to Prefuse 73.

― mandatorily joined parties (Hurting 2), Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:55 PM (Yesterday)

yeah i dont know why i phrased it like that i def think ur onto something, but yeah also todd edwards.

it's just that "glitch" makes me so strongly of late '90s/early '00s idm, glitch-hop, microhouse, etc.. and digital editing is so non-novel at this point, we're way past using it to sound abrasive or "glitchy". it's a pretty entrenched technique. i guess the term just rubs me the wrong way.

eh, theres signifiers where the origins linger i think. like certain guitar sounds and metal for instance.

sure, but i'd argue that the goal is different (ie less about sounding weird or futuristic, more about making those elements beautiful or banging)

so hes on polydor now? im quite interested to see comes out of that.

So a while back I downloaded the Mt Kimbie album and was pretty eh about it (didn't seem very cohesive) so I didn't really investigate this vein of music much more this year until I finally downloaded the CMYK EP today and man it's pretty good huh? it's too short though.

James Blake album has leaked

God I'm actually really looking forward to a full album!

klavierwerke ep has really grown on me

is this gonna be all new stuff, or things from EPs?

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=13158

"the wilhelm scream" <3

This is totally my jam right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JPUTgYY-U

yeah, this is nice too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxH5B5DEuWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3jWbqYByWQ

loving this. that added bitrate really amps up the songs that were already out there in lower-quality versions several notches.

yeah, i've heard that one but it's nice to get the full effect

he's really good at the single-hook song

wilhelm's scream is brilliant

i don't really know much about blake, just started listening to the eps a couple of weeks ago, so sorry if this is a dumb thing to day but the full-length is pretty different, huh? is he doing the singing or is it someone else? i like the vocals, on first listen i wish the songs had a little more going on, especially rhythmically, but they could grow on me

It's him singing.

James Blake album is awful. Played it once and now sending it to the trash. If i wanted some weak ass singer/songwriter shit, i'd listen to...? I have no idea, actually, because I hate shit like this. Just make beats and STFU.

you'd listen to darkstar ?

Darkstar album is 100x better than the James Blake album.

his label is doing a good job scrubbing this from all internet websites

Still available on the first page of a title + 2011 + .rar search though.

yeah i got it

It's a sisyphean task for those guys

Darkstar album is 100x better than the James Blake album.

i haven't heard a note of the james blake album and i can't imagine that this is true.

and, fwiw, i wanted to like the darkstar disc, since i loved their early singles.

I kind of hate the way it sounds like he's whispering things in your ear.

darkstar albim is great, stfu h8ers

album* uggghh late night + alcohol

The Darkstar album is bad. They made the wrong aesthetic choice, abandoning their "Aidy's Girl Is a Computer" sound.

"Just make beats and STFU."

i think hell keep making beats, he just wants to do the singer thing too. even though from listening (only) to limit to your love he does sound a bit limited/like he has a cold/like someone from the 80s.

"wilhelms scream" really is stunning

Is the full-length that commercial? I love the ep's but it's the type of stuff that alienates my friends. "CMYK" is astonishing.

The Darkstar album is bad. They made the wrong aesthetic choice, abandoning their "Aidy's Girl Is a Computer" sound.

^^^^^^^^^ absolutely right.