it's a shame that neil kulkarni's work didn't do enough to get joell ortiz on the list
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
32. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise
keep forgetting this album exists
it's rly good
― Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?
history of rock music crit to thread.
― Tim F, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
"who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?"
people who don't listen to hip-hop.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i liked the salem album a bunch, but i can't think of any list i would put it on. maybe my "records i like that other people find offensive or horrifying or dreadful" list. or my "poseur doofuses that i have loved" list.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
wld rather read scott's poseur doofus poll than all the other polls on this thread
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
^^
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
So, what you're saying is, I should pretend to like hip hop stuff at random and lie about it so as not to appear racist to some lunatic on the internet?
This is pure tautology. Unless of course Mulatu Astatke, Ali Farka Toure, Toumani Diabate, Gil Scott Heron, Janelle Monae, Ty Bulmer and P.O.S. are all white guys.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Or let me put it this way: if you think black history and culture is interchangeable with hip hop, then it's you who is racist.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I am kind of disappointed that everyone ignored my blatant trolling, tbh
clearly I'm slipping
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
We should tell people who haven't been following ILM this year to just keep up with this thread. It's turning into a redux of every argument that people have had this year.
― Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think we ever successfully jammed together the "Janelle Monae tries too hard, what a joke" argument with the "I like this 'Pretty Girl Bag' song" argument; I'd be game for running those together.
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ Best mashup since the Girl Talk album amirite?
― Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
you're overanalyzing a bit here
i didnt say you should pretend to like more hip-hop -- only that salem at #2 was kinda lame (considering it draws a good deal from, to generalize, southern hip-hop from the last decade or so). anyway, i'm glad your tastes and those of your staff are fully and accurately represented. like i said, i think it's a great list, salem aside
thank you, i realize that there are additional black musicians on your list -- that wasn't my point
never said black history and culture were interchangeable with hip-hop, that's funny though!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway... i'm closing the can o' worms now
i like the quietus list!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
quietus list once again has most of my favourites on it
― Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
how about the rock-a-rolla list?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/archive/2010/11/2010_yearend_on.html
― http://i54.tinypic.com/2vt2utg.gif (markers), Sunday, November 28, 2010 12:52 AM (1 week ago)
― markers, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Dumb end-of-day exercise. Using 7 lists (Quietus, FACT, Drowned In Sound, Rock-A-Rolla, Q, MOJO, NME, Uncut, Spin), here's artists sorted by average rating first, then by # of lists they appear in:
John Grant 3 4.666666667Salem 3 5.333333333The Arcade Fire 7 8.571428571Ufomammut 2 9.5Emeralds 3 10.66666667Drake 2 11.5These New Puritans 5 11.6The Fall 3 12The National 5 12.2MGMT 4 13Kanye West 4 13.25Vampire Weekend 4 13.25LCD Soundsystem 6 14.16666667Grinderman 7 14.28571429Liars 4 16Paul Weller 4 16Gayngs 3 16.33333333Midlake 2 17Oneohtrix Point Never 5 17.4The Black Keys 4 18.5Robert Plant 4 18.5New Young Pony Club 2 18.5Big Boi 5 19Foals 4 20Laura Marling 3 20.33333333Neil Young 3 20.33333333Yeasayer 6 20.5Best Coast 2 20.5The Drums 2 21M.I.A. 2 21.5Swans 4 21.75Caribou 4 22High On Fire 2 22Deerhunter 5 22.4Forest Swords 2 22.5Avi Buffalo 3 22.66666667The Coral 2 23Crystal Castles 3 23.33333333Zola Jesus 3 23.66666667Manic Street Preachers 4 23.75Pantha Du Prince 3 25.66666667Spoon 2 26.5Beach House 4 26.75Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti 4 27.5Arabrot 2 27.5Klaxons 2 28Janelle Monae 7 28.42857143Hot Chip 2 29Joanna Newsom 5 30.2Glasser 2 31Gil Scott-Heron 7 31.85714286No Age 3 32.33333333Gorillaz 6 33.16666667Teenage Fanclub 3 33.33333333Solar Bears 2 33.5Flying Lotus 4 34.5Mount Kimbie 3 37.33333333Field Music 3 37.66666667Edwyn Collins 3 40Sleigh Bells 3 42The Roots 3 43.66666667Robyn 3 45The Walkmen 2 46Everything Everything 3 49.66666667
Consensus list sorted by # of lists and then average rating:
The Arcade Fire 7 8.571428571Grinderman 7 14.28571429Janelle Monae 7 28.42857143Gil Scott-Heron 7 31.85714286LCD Soundsystem 6 14.16666667Yeasayer 6 20.5Gorillaz 6 33.16666667These New Puritans 5 11.6The National 5 12.2Oneohtrix Point Never 5 17.4Big Boi 5 19Deerhunter 5 22.4Joanna Newsom 5 30.2MGMT 4 13Kanye West 4 13.25Vampire Weekend 4 13.25Liars 4 16Paul Weller 4 16The Black Keys 4 18.5Robert Plant 4 18.5Foals 4 20Swans 4 21.75Caribou 4 22Manic Street Preachers 4 23.75Beach House 4 26.75Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti 4 27.5Flying Lotus 4 34.5John Grant 3 4.666666667Salem 3 5.333333333Emeralds 3 10.66666667The Fall 3 12Gayngs 3 16.33333333Laura Marling 3 20.33333333Neil Young 3 20.33333333Avi Buffalo 3 22.66666667Crystal Castles 3 23.33333333Zola Jesus 3 23.66666667Pantha Du Prince 3 25.66666667No Age 3 32.33333333Teenage Fanclub 3 33.33333333Mount Kimbie 3 37.33333333Field Music 3 37.66666667Edwyn Collins 3 40Sleigh Bells 3 42The Roots 3 43.66666667Robyn 3 45Everything Everything 3 49.66666667Ufomammut 2 9.5Drake 2 11.5Midlake 2 17New Young Pony Club 2 18.5Best Coast 2 20.5The Drums 2 21M.I.A. 2 21.5High On Fire 2 22Forest Swords 2 22.5The Coral 2 23Spoon 2 26.5Arabrot 2 27.5Klaxons 2 28Hot Chip 2 29Glasser 2 31Solar Bears 2 33.5The Walkmen 2 46
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
not that anyone should give a damn or anything but WOW i think this awful awful thread might finally cure me of the habit of reading ILX!
― Babylon and zing (stevie), Monday, 6 December 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry, by rating I mean place in list. Time to go home.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Using 7 9 lists
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
― Babylon and zing (stevie
Since a bunch of this thread comes from other websites and periodicals, maybe you should give up on much of the internet
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
wait what are we gonna do without the other "stevie"?! i'm gonna miss his great posts on.......
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't expect to see Jamie Johnson so high on Spin's list.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link
The more I hear it, the more I fidn the Jan Monae record really fucking boring. Boy I hate me some white people.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Janelle Monae isn't white.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link
not like Amadou and Miriam
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol rev.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link
NME readers are tho Rev.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, now you all know how I feel when Encoffination and Electric Wizard fail to get into XXL magazine.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link
xxl is based around 1 genre while quietus isnt?
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link
all smh.gifs ever.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i kind of feel all of these proper EOY lists are just a way to kill time until the ilx one, which i'm sure will have many smh moments but in the main tends to be way way better than anything else. who else placed both electrik red and the-dream in last year's top 5? with taylor swift winning the trax list?
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha! I'd already forgotten that Taylor won the tracks list.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost ^^^ Yeah I feel this way. Inadvertent archival ILM review capsules are the best also.
TBH I'm always surprised that people focus so much on the lists themselves when to my mind the review capsules are the more interesting bit. Although TBH that's really "potentially". In practice they're often depressingly inadequate, esp. for the stuff i like.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Looking for the results thread, I realized that musically started the noms process the second week of December (the 8th to be exact). Where's she at this year?
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i haven't seen her post, like, since that thread -- was wondering if you or i or both of us would have to take it over again
(i wouldn't mind but didn't want to trample on musically's thing)
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link
exactly.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
she hasn't posted since june, looks like
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link
rip musically
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll send her a note and see if she's cool with us doing it w/o her.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Sent.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I just stuck 16 UK and US lists in a spreadsheet.
Most selections:
Arcade Fire - The Suburbs 15National - High Violet 12Beach House - Teen Dream 11LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening 10Yeasayer - Odd Blood 10Caribou - Swim 9Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest 9Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today 9Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here 9Black Keys - Brothers 9Vampire Weekend - Contra 9Grinderman - Grinderman II 9Sleigh Bells - Treats 9These New Puritans - Hidden 8Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can 8Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me 8Janelle Monae - The Archandroid 8
and ranked on position (Amazon.co.uk all got 10.5th place.
1 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs2 Beach House - Teen Dream3 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening4 These New Puritans - Hidden5 Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy6 Caribou - Swim7 Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can8 National - High Violet9 Foals - Total Life Forever10 Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me11 John Grant - Queen of Denmark12 Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest13 Robert Plant - Band of Joy14 Liars - Sisterworld15 Emeralds - Does It Look Like I’m Here?16 Forest Swords - Dagger Paths17 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today18 Janelle Monae - The Archandroid19 Salem - King Night20 Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here
#2+#3 together don't outscore #1
More interesting 751 slots has produced 323 albums. BUT if you take out everything that only has one vote (180 albums) you reduce the number only 142 albums filling those 571 slots.
― Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
NME, Uncut, Q, The Clash, Mojo, DiS, FACT, Sunday Times, Paste, Spin, Amazon.co.uk, The Fly, Rough Trade, The Quietus, Gorrila vs. Bear and Filter fwiw
― Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
GAPDY vs BLAND (beach house, lcd, arcade fire, national, deerhunter)
― modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd go with BLANK when Kanye starts picking up steam tbh.
― Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link
B DANK (Best Coast, Deerhunter , Arcade Fire, National, Deerhunter.)
Bethany would want it that way.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
memes of the year, a hoy mag
1. thank you based god2. snacks the cat3. deal w/ it4. robbenballs5. ? 10.0?
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link