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Hey, he wins because he world premiered it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Apparently there *is* a promo CD (so it won't just appear on vinyl).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Hey, he wins because he world premiered it!

Yes, but I still want his money. I am greedy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Dude, he works for the BBC.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Don't rob me of my joy!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

I.e. he has no money!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

"Thieves Like Us"

Hahahaha!
"Yeah theives like us/baby we were born to..."

There's a Tipsy Ghost on the edge of my couch (Bimble...), Saturday, 24 September 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

search for loveless
destroy dracula's castle

sernard bummer, Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

"Round and Round" is about twice as classic as I previously thought.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

can someone please tell me what's the difference
between the verions of CEREMONY as mentioned
er, three years ago?

piscesboy, Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

the 7" and original 12" recording by New Order is slower and a bit more raw sounding than the rerecorded version.

biz, Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

..and Gill isn't on the original. It was rerecorded with Gill and became the 12" version (although a few were pressed later with the original instead). Most of the 12" out there are the second version. There is no correlation between the various 12" coloured sleeves and which version it is. I think I'm right that all the gold 7" are the original version. The only way to tell for sure are the timings - the first version is around 4.34 and the second is around 4.24.

The first version has never been available on CD, even though it is much the better of the two, but it will be included on Singles, due out in a couple of weeks.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

That Richard X remix is... GINCHY!

The Ghost of Gidget (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0MJA775H3DNXF0OXC5BHFBK9HG

New Order, Excerpts From Recycle @ 192kps

biz, Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

"GINCHY"??

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

i disagree that the first version of ceremony was the better of the two. I wanted to think that because I'd never heard it, but when I finally did, I was disappointed. it sounds like a demo at best; I even like the Still version more.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

I have to agree. I also like the Still version much more.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ginchy

Ignore def #3.

The Ghost of Gidget (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Interesting. *strokes chin*

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I *highly* recommend that YSI that biz posted!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

whats so good about this excerpts thing?

piscesboy, Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

A bunch of rare (especially vinyl-only tracks).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

How is it you grow up in LA, Spencer, and at least not know of Gidget?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I watched Gidget, but I do not remember this term.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Someone will have to YSI this again later tonight so I can download it at a place that is not my office.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

richard x in not very good remix shocker.

piscesboy, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

That would be a shocker.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

...As he's basically a genius and has about a 90% CLASSIC rate.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

i'd say Richard X is more like a different producer of the orignal track rather than a remixer. his work is more like slightly beefed up, slightly techier versions of the orginal song he's mixing. he's a "reproducer", rather than a "remixer" in my opinion.

have you guys heard the mix of Everything's Gone Green on the 7"s? it's fantastic!!!

i can gmail but don't have time to upload to YSI. I've got all 3 7"s recorded and mp3'd. only 3 of the 6 tracks are worth having.

biz, Thursday, 29 September 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

biz, if you could shoot off copies of what you have to [email protected], I'd be most appreciative...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 September 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

on EGG, bernard's vocals sound like a different take but not a new recording. very interesting.

biz, Thursday, 29 September 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Vanishing Point (instrumental making out mix) ... wow, they're right, when you take away the vocals it totally sounds like a porn soundtrack.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

the YSI was still up when I got back from work. A nation celebrates.

biz did you post as biznotic love trapezoid on neworderonline?

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

yes, i still post at NOOL occasionally.

biz, Friday, 30 September 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

Have the 7" been released?

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 September 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

oo, never heard that "Evil Dust" remix of Angel Dust, and it's nice to hear MTO again.

so what's going on? is that richard x thing, and all this coming out in a massive remix thing soon? (sorry, long thread, haven't taken it all in)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

it's gonna be a b.side isnt it? he's got the way way way superior COOL gwenny remix doin the rounds as we speak.

piscesboy, Friday, 30 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

I just heard some mix of Bizarre Love Triangle in a Payless Shoes commercial. I might have been hallucinating, but I'm pretty sure it involved falling shoes.

mike h. (mike h.), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

SUNKIST IS THE ONE

adam (adam), Monday, 3 October 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

Search: whatever band over in the Anti-Mall, as part of the first Wednesday of the month series of open air performances, is currently doing an enthusiastic if not hypergreat version of "Age of Consent." I was taking care of laundry in my apartment as I heard this band play in the distance and then found myself asking "Wait, why am I humming this bassline?" Vocalist thankfully is avoiding the temptation to emo-ize it, while the keyboards sound more like 1985-era Cure...in all, unexpected and fun to hear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 October 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

i am rapidly finding myself of the opinion that the secret machines mix of temptation is one of the single greatest artefacts ever to bear the new order name. the fact they've actually managed to take a song i love and adore and do something so jaw-droppingly wonderful with it ... i'm blown away. mrs fiendish has just come in here to tell me to stop fucking playing it on repeat. too bad.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 8 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

what was that on grimly?

piscesboy, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

it's one of the mixes on the new "waiting for the sirens' call" single (you know: this 3x7" madness). it's on UK iTunes ... dunno if it's available in the US yet, mind.

if not, er, let me know.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

(although, gah, DRM misery etc etc etc.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Anyone know of a US shop that's importing those 7" releases? I've been hunting around for a week or so but have come up short..

mike h. (mike h.), Saturday, 8 October 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

why don't you order from HMV. I got all 3 delivered for under 10 bucks. Certainly finding them all in a shop here will cost you more than that.

biz, Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Barney's own S&D from Spin.com:


The Records That Changed My Life: Bernard Sumner of New Order

By: Adrienne Day

July 4, 2005

Bernard Sumner, founding member of Joy Division and New Order, might have blazed a path for generations of angsty dance-punk bands, but he still finds inspiration in rock's glory days.

"I picked the records I got before I became a musician, because I listened to music in a completely different way then," he says. "We just spent seven months making a new record [Waiting for the Sirens' Call], and the last thing you want to do is hear music when you come out of the studio after a 14-hour day."

Ennio Morricone, A Fistful of Dollars: Original Soundtrack (RCA, 1967)
"I grew up in a house without a record player. I wasn't that interested in music. Then I got to the age of 15, 16, and I became completely obsessed with it. My mother finally bought me a player, and the first single I ever bought was 'Ride a White Swan' by T. Rex. But I got fed up with having to get up and put it back on. I thought, 'This is shit, I need to buy an album,' but I didn't know where to start. Then I saw The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and I was blown away by Morricone's music."

Jimi Hendrix, Electric Ladyland (MCA, 1968)
"I remember there was this kid at school who was a bit of a hippie, and he loved Jimi Hendrix. I said to him, 'It just sounds like a lot of guitar noise,' and he stared at me and said, 'I like it.' So I went out and bought it, played it, just a lot of noise, played it, just a lot of noise -- and then all of the sudden my musical horizon went up a notch, and I really got into Hendrix. It was really weird, like a 'Road to Damascus' moment."

The Rolling Stones, Through the Past Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) (ABKCO, 1969)
"I love the Stones; they've got this kind of raw, nasty, unpolished edge. For a while they got sort of countrified and a bit American sounding, and I didn't like that period, but the early, English-sounding stuff, 'Sympathy for the Devil' and '2,000 Light Years From Home,' I really like."

Roxy Music, Stranded (Virgin, 1973)
"I got a bit older and started going to nightclubs. One club in Manchester was called Pips, and they used to play stuff like Roxy Music. At the time it sounded like nothing you had ever heard before. It had a really fresh sound."

Lou Reed, Transformer (RCA, 1972)
"Another album they played at Pips was Lou Reed's Transformer, which has got a great track on it called 'Vicious.' It was considered a dance track in those days. I loved the riff in it -- dead simple. They're the hardest songs to write, simple songs. You've got to get yourself in the right frame of mind in order to write them."

Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IV (Atlantic, 1971)
"At school we had a hip geography teacher. He'd tell us that if we paid attention in class, during break time he'd let us use the record player. He used to bring in his records, and one was Led Zeppelin IV. All the kids liked it immediately. It's a corny thing to say, but 'Stairway to Heaven' is a beautiful piece of music."

Iggy Pop, The Idiot (Virgin, 1977)
"I knew Ian Curtis from going to punk gigs. So when we were forming Joy Division, I just gave him the job on the phone. I didn't even listen to him [sing]. When we went around to his house to pick up his PA system, he had 'China Girl' playing. I said, 'Who's this track by?' He said, 'Oh, it's Iggy.' I was like, 'This is fantastic. Bring it to rehearsal tonight, we'll try and rip it up.' So that's how I got to know Ian."

Kraftwerk, Trans-Europe Express (Capitol, 1977)
"Ian Curtis also turned me on to this -- it was revolutionary. We had a record player in the rehearsal room, and people would bring stuff in. We used to play Trans-Europe Express before we went onstage."

Hans Zimmer, The Thin Red Line: Original Soundtrack (RCA, 1998)
"When we owned a nightclub, the Hacienda, we'd just be out all night and then be a mess on Sunday. And after a few years of it and a lot of drug taking, I just got sick of it. So I bought a boat, and now I go sailing every weekend. The biggest place to listen to music is on the boat. And my favorite things to listen to are film soundtracks. They're the opposite of what I make -- they're chilled out."

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Led Zeppelin IV, awesome.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

christ almighty, barney likes the rolling stones? [shoots self in the face repeatedly]

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Search:

Player in the League - godlike b-side to Crystal or one of the Get Ready singles that was inexplicably left off of the album.

Get Ready - It may be heresy, but I find this to be their strongest album track-for-track, better than Low-Life, Brotherhood, or Technique. I hate hate hate Smashing Pumpkins, but the awesomeness of New Order somehow even makes Billy Corgan's vocal cameo seem cool.

Regret - duh.

And I quite like the Sub-Culture 12" mix.

Destroy:

Shellshock & State of the Nation - These two tracks seemed like throwaways compared to what came before and after them.

John Hunter, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)


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