I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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Also it looks like as soon as John got back into the studio, Paul was drilling everyone into turning "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" into the next "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da", so I would guess that song curbed John's lack of interest more than anything.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 29 November 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

The Maxwell sessions had to have been maddening

I don't mind that song, kinda love it, but ad nauseum would lead to homicide I'm sure

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

the irony.

http://tinyurl.com/vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

funny that paul didn't just play the whole thing himself -- kind of sounds like he did anyway.

tylerw, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

My favorite version of Maxwell is John's piss-take, where Paul chimes in Tiny Tim style. They could still have fun, even toward the end.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

I just picture Paul grinning away, playing piano with everyone else scowling, grumpily banging hammers on a rail tie

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

Aren't railroad ties made of wood? I don't remmber hearing any railroad ties being played on Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Great, now there's another bootleg that I need to track down: the railroad tie mix of Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

It's either Kafkaesque or Proustian (KMS), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

Track not ties.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

Just playin', I think it was actually an anvil in the Let It Be film.

It's either Kafkaesque or Proustian (KMS), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

Yep, Mal Evans is hitting an anvil w a hammer.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

Imagine if the Beatles actually toured to support the Abbey Road album. They had have to stop everything and wait for Mal to trot out on stage with his anvil.

It's either Kafkaesque or Proustian (KMS), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

haha. wasn't Mal technically on the records more than anyone else aside from the Fabs themselves? like more than Yoko or Billy Preston or Clapton or whoever.

piscesx, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

tie, track, anvil...I knew what I meant :)

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

If you read Mal Evans wikipedia page, it makes a strong case for him being the unsung fifth Beatle.

It's either Kafkaesque or Proustian (KMS), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

get in line, Mal

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

maybe there should be some kind of official voting

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

Evans was killed by police on 5 January 1976 at his rented duplex in Los Angeles. Officers were called when his girlfriend phoned the police and told them that Evans was confused and had a gun. The police believed that the air rifle Evans was holding was a rifle and shot him dead.]

WTF had never heard this story :(

"smokin' hot" albeit in a "Nickelback on iPod" sort of way (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

They lost his remains in the mail too, prompting Lennon to say he was "dead mail".

http://tinyurl.com/vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

Instant karma, John, instant karma...

It's either Kafkaesque or Proustian (KMS), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

instance, is John even on that? Or "Something"?

There's a session boot where John sings the lead vocal on "Something" so George can work out the harmony lines. If that's not helping, dunno what is.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)

His bass playing on The Long And Winding Road is really bad.

Apaprently, his bass playing was always really bad.

Not as bad as Mal's out-of-time Anvil playing. (The LP version does not feature him)

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

Also it looks like as soon as John got back into the studio, Paul was drilling everyone into turning "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" into the next "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da", so I would guess that song curbed John's lack of interest more than anything.

This was the reason they split, according to Lennon. Macca was all "those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine" which is why they might not have been as close in the latter days, but Lennon not wanting to do the McCartney songs he didn't personally like (without saying they had no merit) seems the truest reflection.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:11 (fifteen years ago)

Apaprently, his bass playing was always really bad.

That version of Long And Winding Road was, for all intents and purposes, a rehearsal take. Ian MacDonald basically accuses Lennon of sabotage by passing it off as finished work, especially since Paul was around to overdub a decent bassline (I don't think they'd broken up just yet when Lennon got Spector in to assemble Let It Be).

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

From everything I've read, John must have been a 100% insufferable douchebag to be around by the end. I mean, in a way I guess they all were. But I remember being struck by that when I was reading 'Can't Buy Me Love'.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)

This is brilliant:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/deconstructing_helter_skelter/

Paul's voice!

nate woolls, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

^^^!!!!!!!

Really cool!

The animal magnetism of Tim Pawlenty (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

biggest marvel is really the editing. insane how much they chopped together on four tracks

"smokin' hot" albeit in a "Nickelback on iPod" sort of way (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

neato. and apparently that's another example of lennon on bass. he had ideas!

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

haha oh man that bassline is so retarded

"smokin' hot" albeit in a "Nickelback on iPod" sort of way (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, lennon seemed to think playing bass was kind of hilarious, i guess? maybe being dumb on bass is the only thing to do when mccartney is in your band.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

I'm actually crying, real tears of hilarity over that bassline!

The animal magnetism of Tim Pawlenty (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

Generalizing, that sounds exactly like what happens when a rhythm guitarist picks up a bass in the studio and takes a crack at it.

"Hey, Paul! This is easy!" *cronk cronk cronk, grum grum grum*

http://tinyurl.com/vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

it's demonstrably worse than that, Lennon's barely even keeping time, much less actually, y'know, playing notes with a decent tone

"smokin' hot" albeit in a "Nickelback on iPod" sort of way (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

Lennon's sloppy playing is just what the song needs though. I'd be surprised if McCartney didn't arrange it like this on purpose.

Darin, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno. I kinda understand now why McCartney snuck off and did "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?" by himself.

http://tinyurl.com/vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

I'd be surprised if McCartney didn't arrange it like this on purpose.

wouldn't exactly jibe with McCartney's annoyingly perfectionist rep

"smokin' hot" albeit in a "Nickelback on iPod" sort of way (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

iirc the whole point of helter skelter for mccartney was to make the nastiest, meanest sounding song they possibly could, after he was disappointed by the who's I Can See For Miles and Miles.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

I think Lennon's part works in context though. McCartney would have easily re-recorded that bassline if he wanted to. But yeah, it does help illustrate why Paul became such a control freak.

Darin, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

paul: "Umm, that came about just 'cause I'd read a review of a record which said, 'and this group really got us wild, there's echo on everything, they're screaming their heads off.' And I just remember thinking, 'Oh, it'd be great to do one. Pity they've done it. Must be great — really screaming record.' And then I heard their record and it was quite straight, and it was very sort of sophisticated. It wasn't rough and screaming and tape echo at all. So I thought, 'Oh well, we'll do one like that, then.' And I had this song called "Helter Skelter," which is just a ridiculous song. So we did it like that, 'cuz I like noise."

paul mccartney -- original noise dude

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

lol

"smokin' hot" albeit in a "Nickelback on iPod" sort of way (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

Oh i loooooove the sound of that bass.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

the dude was on acid and heroin every day for like ten years straight. that bass is pretty fuckin' punk rock. everything about that song is glorious though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)

Apple couldn't be more annoying with this Apple/Apple deal. My local Apple shop was drenched in Beatles shit the other day. Abbey Road coming out the speakers at only-child volume (not that I mind necessarily), Beatles-specific gift cards, employees with the Abbey Road cover attached to their name tags etc etc. Jobso must have paid a bloody fortune for this thing.

Interests: eating my cookie (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

they recorded that song a couple of weeks before i was born. i think i heard it in the womb. i had to come out. that song is literally yero zero for me. its a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way.

scott seward, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

so *you're* the fifth beatle

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

Fifth fetal Beatle

It's either Kafkaesque or Proustian (KMS), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

Fetle

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

Featle, I mean

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

I Wanna Hold Your Placenta

Interests: eating my cookie (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

Euuugh!

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)


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