Billie Holiday is uncoverable, possibly the greatest singer of the century,yet the fact is that Ross's versionswhich occupy only two sides of this soundtrack albumare intensely listenable.
That's the word I want, because it doesn't fit Holiday,who either seizes your full attention or disturbs you in the background.
While copying Holiday's phrasing and intonation,Ross smoothes them out, making the content easier to take without destroying it altogether.
This may be a desecration and a deception,but it speaks to the condition of a ghetto child who's always had a talent for not suffering, for willing herself up and through.
Not every singer turns into a junkie, after all.
― Tom Scarlett, Friday, 21 April 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)
Would You Lay With Me (in a Field of Stone) [Columbia, 1974]If you think the inflatable dolls they sell with the Orgy-Gell in the back of cheap skin mags are sexy, then you will doubtless find this fifteen-year-old wonder of nature the hottest thing since that waitress who brought you the screwdrivers the time you blew $220 playing blackjack in downtown Winnemucca. A cute little ass, better-than-average pipes, and Billy Sherrill's usual "who gives a shit if the title cut is commercial" country album. Up a notch for no strings. B-
― starfish succulents (unregistered), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)
is he saying that this fifteen-year-old has a cute little ass?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)
I mean, he's obviously going for a satirical "this is what happens when you market a 15-year-old as a sex symbol" tone, but he's doing it wrong.
― starfish succulents (unregistered), Thursday, 2 August 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)
god those "poems" are annoying
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)
What a creepthat's a classic song too
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:21 (thirteen years ago)
was tanya tucker strongly marketed as a sex symbol?
― Mordy, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:23 (thirteen years ago)
Still the best. A mile better than Greil.
― broom air, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:32 (thirteen years ago)
was tanya tucker strongly marketed as a sex symbol?i was too young to know about all that but twelve year old me bought this on account of the coverhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/TanyaTuckerTNT.jpg
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 2 August 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)
Delta Dawn > every weird xgau ever wrote
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 August 2012 13:06 (thirteen years ago)
I still think about this review and shudder:
Everyone Who Pretended to Like Me Is Gone [Startime International, 2002]
Just what we always wanted--Jonathan Fire*Eater grows up. Put some DreamWorks money into a studio, that was mature. Realized Radiohead was the greatest band in the world, brainy. Stopped playing so fast, hoo boy. And most important, switched vocalists from Nick Cave imitator to Rufus Wainwright imitator. Wainwright makes up better melodies with a dick in his mouth, and not only that, Cave has more literary ability. New York scene or (hint hint) no New York scene, DreamWorks isn't buying. C+
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)
xxp
well, that TNT cover is 4 years and 6 albums down the road from cgau's review. circa would you lay with me, her image was appropriately innocent, though her song choices were sometimes rather suggestive (title track, for instance).
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
Would You Lay With Me (in a Field of Bone)
― how's life, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)
Might as well post the inner sleeve to TNT as well:
http://ickmusic.com/pics/artist/tanyatucker.jpg
― David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)
she was 20 when TNT was out, according to wiki
also are we really like doing this, defending what xgau said in that shit review based on how "sexy" tanya tucker should or should be?
like honestly you guys, if this was just some random asshole writing this in 2012 for a alt weekly and the link got thrown up on ILM every single person would eviscerate it.
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)
I mean what's to defend here:
Wainwright makes up better melodies with a dick in his mouth,
what an asshole
I've never rated him as a critic, and nothing he's ever written has changed the way I think or perceive a release.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)
*think about
I mean what's to defend here:Wainwright makes up better melodies with a dick in his mouth,what an asshole
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 4 August 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)
we talked about this recently on another thread and Alfred believes he was "making fun of homophobia": Lucinda Williams vs. Greil Marcus
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Saturday, 4 August 2012 10:10 (thirteen years ago)
is that like when a guy i know posted on facebook about being mistaken for a terrorist and some white dude chimed in "but all brown people are terrorists" as an attempt at a knowing joke about prejudice but it still came across as gross
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Saturday, 4 August 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)
i guess my satire is too sophisticated for you
― some white dude (some dude), Saturday, 4 August 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
you're some white dude too??
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Saturday, 4 August 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)
some white, black, purple dude
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Saturday, 4 August 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)
i'm every some dude, it's all in me
― some white dude (some dude), Saturday, 4 August 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)
he contains multidudes
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)
we talked about this recently on another thread and Alfred believes he was "making fun of homophobia": Lucinda Williams vs. Greil Marcus
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)
Reading Blues & Chaos, the Robert Palmer anthology....dude rules, why wasn't he the dean of rock critics instead? Light years better than xgau
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)
"snoop makes better melodies while picking his afro"
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)
Even after reading that thread I still don't quite get how Alfred comes to that conclusion (while he's biting his lip).
sorry -- I was making specious arguments with a dick in my mouth.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)
*hums a better melody*
― lick of the rim (Matt P), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
not only that, nick cave has more literary ability!
― lick of the rim (Matt P), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)
#xgaukoans
how do you bite your lips with a dick in your mouth?
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)
haven't spent time in the gay thread?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)
ALSO, I LIKE BLOOD SAUSAGE
― lick of the rim (Matt P), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)
i mean BLOOD SAUSAGE IS DELICIOUS
― lick of the rim (Matt P), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)
http://ring.cdandlp.com/gmsi/photo_grande/114767124.jpg
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)
Is Xgau Dying?
― buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)
i'm a sympathetic reader, so i figure the rufus wainwright bit (which I thought I brought up first on ILX in '06 but the archive reveals fact checking cuz did in '04) as embarrassing and shitty, but low malice - a sixty-something dude trying to be hip and falling on his ass, only nobody but some ilxors every so many years noticed or cared.
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:36 (thirteen years ago)
i think every line in that particular review is embarrassing
that said, the reimaginings of his stuff as poems upthread are pretty great
― dell (del), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)
probably
so many "classic" ilx postswould benefit immensely from similar treatment
to give one examplei always, i think, enjoyed the pinefox's at times curious syntax
granted, your mileage may varybut it just goes to show:
we're all stars then in the dope showthen and now
― dell (del), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)
i remember reading creem magazine aa a kid and being regularly befuddled by christgau's reviews. and at the time i just assumed that it was something that would make more sense to me if i were an adult and had achieved a certain level of sophistication or whatever. but that go-betweens one cited here still makes very little sense to me no matter how many times i read it
― dell (del), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)
i wonder if he's more of a frustrated literary writer than most music critics, like maybe all his ambitions as a stylist would be better served in a different medium.
― contender's game (some dude), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
Metal and Shells [PVC, 1985]When what the Brits call pop isn't popular, it's usually rock and roll chamber music if it's any good at all. This U.S. debut, a best-of that highlights the soulful ache in the vocals and the quirky opacities in the lyrics and does what it can for a modest tune sense, honors that suspect notion. It's not stylized, and not static either, but it's pretty subtle, and its half-finished edges and kinetic lyricism are best appreciated in tranquility if not repose. Where it can be expected to unfold for quite a while. A-
wtf does "does what it can for a modest tune sense" mean??
― dell (del), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)
he's highlighting his own quirky opacities, i think
― contender's game (some dude), Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)
soulful ache in the vocals and the quirky opacities in the lyrics
yes
its half-finished edges and kinetic lyricism
yes, i hear ya
the rest is either impenetrable to me or is hopelessly buried in bizarre syntactical choices. as someone who is incapable of writing a grocery list w/o stacking clauses on top of each other in jenga-esque fashion i can appreciate it, but the first sentence is the obvious huge offender here and is somewhat infuriating b/c once you do manage to squeeze some meaning out of it, it turns out to be a tossed-off sweeping statement that w/o further explication is really kind of pointless?
― dell (del), Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:05 (thirteen years ago)
xp
ha
yeh in re-reading it i came to wonder if it was just one of those write in the style that approximates the aesthetic of the record things
― dell (del), Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)
I summarize his review of that Go-Be's comp as: "Much better than rock and roll chamber music has any right to be."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)
I liked when he dismissively called Spacemen 3 "Stooges for airports."
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)