ARTHUR - the magazine

...but yeah, it can be an okay place to live if, like Seward said, you have a chauffeur!!

haha, yeah, i feel like i would do that in a second!

In the end, the people that seem to dig L.A. the most -- or cheerlead for it hardest -- are the ones who can afford to insulate themselves from its faults.

meh, there are countless other cities that one could make the same complaint about, though, right? most definitely, including nyc/brooklyn.

What can I say? Not my cup o tea. So it goes! I gave the place 20 years, that's enough.

awesome. i respect yr life experience. best of luck to you!!

also, try to interview dale pendell!! and karl jansen!! seriously!

it't the usual thing; if i've invested enough energy in questioning yr publication's output or whatever, then i obv. respect where you're cominng from. but i still am suspect of scenic motives

you want publishing, come move to quebec. quebecor yo

what d'ya mean by that? just out of curiosity...b/c i have a friend who is moving to quebec next month

insulate themselves from its faults

jay--i'm sorry you had such an awful experience in los anegles. where did you live during your twenty years here? were the people the same kind of dumb and shallow everywhere? why did you wait so long to escape? good luck in brooklyn--i'm sure you'll be a much better fit there.

but i still am suspect of scenic motives

that was couched horribly

sorry

how dare I leave the city of SILVERSUN PICKUPS???? Oy vey.

sorry I went to lunch and missed this lolololol

It's not that I'm moving to NYC for a "scene" -- I never said that anywhere!!! Ay yi yi. There's a lot more art, music, dance and yes thinkers and readers and who knows maybe even some new partners and advertisers and OMG really great street league hoops that is a lot more fun to watch than the NBA bazillionaires. Geez louise. We're just doing our thing. Sorry I was so poorly quoted everybody! But that's what's going on at the LATimes! They've gone from 1200 reporters to 700. It's gonna be the Weekly Reader with Page 3 girls by October at the rate Zell is going.

i just don't understand ppl who move to the east coast from the west coast

when i lived in philly, every time someone would say they were moving to california we would say: "great, have fun! we'll miss you! *see you in six months*."

that last part we would say under our breath or in our heads. and then when we saw that person again in six months we would ask them how their trip was!

Cops in L.A. are on steroids, they're trained military-style, and they've got helicopters! Lookit up. Awesome.

Jay, you're moving to the city of that thing called "911." You don't think they have helicopters and a bulked-up police force trained in military-style surveillance and crowd control?

I'm sorry but the disparity between the have and the have-nots is no diff in NYC than it is in any other metropolis.

i know. the times isn't great and it's getting worse. public radio stinks. the fascists shut down your no age show. nobody noticed that you'd left. traffic is bad during most times of day.

what neighborhoods did you live in?

that last part we would say under our breath or in our heads. and then when we saw that person again in six months we would ask them how their trip was!

lolz my friends from Philly out here have nothing but horror stories whenever they come back from a visit - mostly about how crack and crime are even worse than they were in the 80s, etc

I've got a $500/mo room in a shared, non-A/Ced apartment in an awesomely Puerto Rican-heavy area of S'Side W'burg and IT IS LOUD ALL THE TIME AND IT IS AWESOME. I can get anywhere I need to go for $2. And there is stuff going on every night. Feels a lot safer than L.A. cuz there's always people on the street. Total classic Jane Jacobs scene. I'm digging it.

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Philly is one rough town.

i dont gte why this dude doesn't live in san francisco i thought that's where all the hippies were

More like a Midwestern city, but with old east coast buildings!

I could give a shit whether anybody knew I'd left. That's another one of those lame Answers he made up a question for. He asked when I was moving to NY and I said Dude I'm already here. Arthur wasn't an "L.A. thing" -- if it was, people would've known we were gone.

The No Age/LA River thing is part of a larger issue having to do with access to nature in general and to the River in particular. Check my "Nature Trumps" blog -- it wasn't just the No Age show they've been going after (and btw, it wasn't cops, it was rangers), they've been ticketing fishermen and duckfeeders. And removing sanctioned graffiti murals. The level of bullshit is high.

re: COPS AND THEIR COPTERS. I've heard one here in the last 5 weeks. In Atwater Village in L.A. we had them almost every night. It's a style of policing they do in L.A. because of the sprawl. Read up on it. It's not that other PDs don't have copters, it's that in LA they have SO MANY and they use them all the time. They're also trained military-style. There's BOOKS on this stuff, dude.

i miss philly. after i left it became the big hot town for ex-nyc hepcats or something. or that's what i read in the paper. and jess from the gilmore girls opened up a cool publishing house/gallery. i love jess.

i just assumed this magazine was from SF

dude SF is fucking expeeeeeeeensive!

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NY is fucking expensive

Yes, you're the only one who reads. You are the enlightened hippie living in America's last stand for culture and art, and everyone else in America is a know-nothing. Dork.

i moved from d.c. to sf. sf was great.

except it only rained for a few months out of the year. that sort of broke me.

i moved from sf to philly.

philly sucks. except it rains sometimes.

Sorry, that's how all of us living in the wasteland talk.

what d'ya mean by that? just out of curiosity...b/c i have a friend who is moving to quebec next month

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quebecor, who i work for, pretty much prints everything in existence

"There's BOOKS on this stuff, dude."

and every movie about L.A.! i'm kinda scared of L.A. just from scary movies. but intrigued too.

also my hood is pretty jane jacobsed out to the max.

Jane Jacobs wouldn't recognize the NYC of 2008, Jay. I mean, I know you're all stoked about living amongst the Puerto Ricans. But...

Right, Arthur's all about the hippies -- that's why we put CONFIRMED HIPPIES Sparks and Diamanda Galas on the cover of the last two issues. Okay.

QN - Come to my neighborhood. It has everything she wrote about. Is this neighborhood indicative of ALL OF NYC? Nope. But there are a lot of hoods like this. Stuff happens here that could never in a million years happen in L.A., and I'm enjoying it.

ILM - conspiring to make sure you don't enjoy what ever you're enjoying at the moment

Jay, before we get too bitchy. I know what you're talking about, and it's a super cool thing. My grandparents are from Puerto Rico and Italy and my family grew up in NYC: Little Italy and the Bronx.

But for me, poor people are treated no better there than anywhere else, and those are my family's roots. That's all I'm saying. I lived in Astoria for many years. In my opinion, it's one of NYC's best hoods. But I also know that places like Co-OP City exist, and that they're residents (more like prisoners) have a vasty diff experience of NY.

Cops in L.A. are on steroids, they're trained military-style, and they've got helicopters! Lookit up. Awesome.

Of many dumb things said here, this is a keeper. You're not going to find even a medium-sized city in America that doesn't have quasi-military elements (nee jackbooted thugs) in its police force. Welcome to the 21st century.

everyone should move to MVI and hang out with me and bob lee

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we freeeeeeeeky

BTW, I apologize for my previous comments.

the no-ac thing will get really old in a couple weeks

"Of many dumb things said here"<--this is a keeper.

ILM - conspiring to make sure you don't enjoy what ever you're enjoying at the moment

Shakey otm

we have local color here too! sadly, not that many puerto ricans. but tons of brazilians! they are good too! and real live indians. not to mention our lovely portugese population.

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anyone who doesn't think LA cops are on some next level evil shit should compare their history to that of any other major metropolitan law enforcement agency (with the exception of New Orleans, who are probably the worst hands down) - Rampart scandal, Rodney King, etc etc

i should work for the tourist board for real

cops here suck always stealing yer stash

they use helicopters here to find our weed gardens the bastards

Philly's record not that great either, what with that whole "let's firebomb an entire city block" thing

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philly cops suck for real

cops kinda suck

it's kinda their job to suck

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um, do you really need a list of incredibly fucked up things nypd has done in the same time period. just because ny cops don't look like hardcore military dudes like la cops doesn't mean they're less likely to shove a plunger handle up your rectum. la cops are pretty scary looking, i'll give you that.

how are the cops in portland oregon and austin texas

Amadou Diallo v. Rodney King

Austin cop let me off with a warning for doing 80 in a 65 last month, so they're cool