not otm tho
― dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)
Black Eyed Peas
― Evan R, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
Pink Floyd, arguably. (Actually I don't think this but I figure a case could be made).
Definitely.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
Wu-Tang is the super obvious answer
Except that The W was better than Forever, and 8 Diagrams was better than Iron Flag.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
lol gtfo
― dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)
The Feelies is the only one I can think of that really works, though all four of their albums are pretty good. But Crazy Rhythms is an all-time classic and The Good Earth is great, the other two decent but kind of unremarkable, and I think Only Life is the better of those too. So there you go..
Devo nearly works (without the new album); but I do also think Freedom of Choice is better than Duty Now by a bit. Also Smooth Noodle Maps > Total Devo but that's like comparing cow turds and horse turds
Deee-lite works but who cares
Junior Boys certainly seem to be heading that way.
p.s. thinking it's Floyd is ridiculous. Do you really think that Ummagumma and Saucerful and Atom Heart Mother >> Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, and the Wall?
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)
Guns n Roses is the obvious answer.
― Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
Time For a Witness >>>>>> The Good Earth
as I've recently learned
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)
I went to look at Wiki to see the sequence of Floyd's albums, and it's blocked at work (sex, supposedly.) ???
― Blastfemur (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
people go to Wiki for sex? :P
― t**t, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
o-oh, me bad. i see, people might go to Floyd albums for sex...
― t**t, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
every part of this sentence is wrong
― you can sub out "bipartisan solutions" for "some of my dick" (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)
(Shakey Mo Collier: stirred, but not shaken:)
― t**t, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
I'll make a case for Galaxie 500 here (especially working in Luna and D&N too)
― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 18 November 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
the obvious answer to being twiddly dogshit from the outset perhaps, yeah
― jumpskins, Thursday, 18 November 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
Michael Jackson
― you can sub out "bipartisan solutions" for "some of my dick" (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 November 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
You think Ben, Music & Me, and Forever, Michael are all better than Off the Wall??
GnR might work, if Spaghetti Incident had come before the two Illusion CDs, but it didn't.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
And if Chinese Democracy wasn't great.
Also, 8 Diagrams is better than Iron Flag, and I could even argue that it's better than Wu-Tang Forever.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
Do you really think that Ummagumma and Saucerful and Atom Heart Mother >> Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, and the Wall?
Frankly, I do!
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)
Interpol is the most obvious one for me.
― monster_xero, Friday, 19 November 2010 03:41 (fifteen years ago)
gtfo with idea that 8 diagrams is better than of the four albums before. don't even want to hear that bullcrap.
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Friday, 19 November 2010 03:56 (fifteen years ago)
Great argument, I'm convinved.
― Tuomas, Friday, 19 November 2010 07:19 (fifteen years ago)
Convinced.
Personally I'd rate them: 36 Chambers = The W > Forever > 8 Diagrams > Iron Flag. Iron Flag has a nice start, 4 of the first 5 tracks (except for "Soul Power") are really good, but the it veers off to autopilot Wu mode with nothing particularly new or interesting.
― Tuomas, Friday, 19 November 2010 07:24 (fifteen years ago)
iron flag is my favorite wu album except for the debut. it's their party record. 8 diagrams isn't worth a bowl of warm piss
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Friday, 19 November 2010 08:37 (fifteen years ago)
really one of the most disappointing albums i've ever heard
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Friday, 19 November 2010 08:39 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah Michael Jackson almost works if you disregard the solo albums he recorded from 1972-1974. They really are not that good and MJ himself didn't write anything (as he was like, 13).
― frogbs, Friday, 19 November 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
still Michael Jackson albums tho innit
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 19 November 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
My highly subjective opinion vs. common wisdom, but for me, The Replacements. If you disregard "Stink" as an EP vs. LP, my far and away favorites are the debut and "Hootenanny" >>> the highly overrated "Let It Be" and everything that came after.
― Blastfemur (Dan Peterson), Friday, 19 November 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)
Yes to the Junior Boys!!
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)
The Smithereens?
― Lee626, Friday, 19 November 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
xp Yeah, I'm pretty sure I mentioned the Replacements somewhere upthread, too. Wouldn't have thought this in the '80s, but I really do think they peaked with their punk-rock debut, and got progressively worse from there.
― xhuxk, Friday, 19 November 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
>the replacements came dangerously close to fitting this model. and there's probably 1 or 2 days out of any given week when i could convincingly make the argument<
This morning I am actually thinking they might be one of the best examples of it.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:51 (5 years ago)
Slow enough morning for me to research it, glad some others agree!
― Blastfemur (Dan Peterson), Friday, 19 November 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
The Replacements? Not in this reality! Let It Be, Tim, Pleased To Meet Me all way better than Hootenanny alone. At the very least, Tim is better than Let It Be.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 19 November 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)
hootenanny >>>>>>>>>>>> tim >> pleased to meet me.
hootenanny is funnier, looser, brattier, catchier, pretty much everythingier. on any given day, hootenanny, sorry ma..., or let it be could be my fave of theirs, and all of them blow away anything they recorded for sire, and on those 1 or 2 days per week noted above, i'd definitely support the replacements argument in this thread.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 19 November 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
<<Pavement, though mostly by minor degrees.>>
this is true.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 19 November 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
Yep, I love the slapdash Hootenanny WAY more than when they seemed to be straining harder to make a polished recording. I've tried for years with Tim, believe me.
― Blastfemur (Dan Peterson), Friday, 19 November 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
Belle and Sebastian. Peaked with Tigermilk and then downhill all the way.
― Officer Pupp, Friday, 19 November 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)
I could understand how someone might make the argument for the replacements EXCEPT for Hootenanny being better than Let It Be. I don't agree that they fit this thread, but I could understand something thinking it, except Let It Be just seems better in almost every way than Hootenanny.
― Mark, Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago)
Speaking of...what about R.E.M.?
10,000 Maniacs is a good example I think.
― Mark, Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)
Lots of people here would agree re R.E.M.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)
Re: Belle & Seb - wouldn't agree w/ Tigermilk being their best, but could see the argument. No way Fold Yr Hands & Storytelling are better than DCW & TLP tho.
― the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:59 (fifteen years ago)
Ah right, forgot to show all before searching for R.E.M.
― Mark, Saturday, 20 November 2010 02:08 (fifteen years ago)
dEUS, probably.
― seandalai, Saturday, 20 November 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)
dEUS
― Raage Saga (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 November 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)
does not exist afaik
What?
― seandalai, Saturday, 20 November 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU3JrXt_cPk
― Raage Saga (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 November 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)
Aha, I see.
Worst Case Scenario > In a Bar, Under the Sea > The Ideal Crash > The other two
(ignoring My Sister = My Clock on the basis that it's not really an album)
― seandalai, Saturday, 20 November 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)
10,000 Maniacs def does not fit, their debut was kind of ropey and their last was one of their best
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Saturday, 20 November 2010 08:41 (fifteen years ago)