No thread on the Girl Talk album, surely some mistake

I'm resisting forming an opinion on this new album until I've heard it a few more times. On first listen, Feed the Animals was a big disappointment to me, but I ended up liking it a lot once it had mapped itself onto my brain.

where do you hear this anyways?

Was about to ask the exact same thing.

― Domingo Halliburton (jaymc), Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:23 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im at work so i cant really go digging around on non-ilx places right now but to kick it off ill say 'ppl i meet irl who are into him'

ppl REALLY like his stuff! they get REALLY excited about it! he generates OMG HES SO GREAT type reactions from lots of ppl

yeah I get this too. in the US at least "young ppl" think he's doing something special

I've listened to Play Your Part (pt. 1) 119 times according to iTunes.

lol

once an artist has placed in P&J, gotten mostly positive reviews in every music mag in existence, etc. it seems kind of pointless and obtuse to have a whole back and forth about "yeah he's popular but do people really think highly of him and what he does?"

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ppl REALLY like his stuff! they get REALLY excited about it! he generates OMG HES SO GREAT type reactions from lots of ppl

― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:33 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i think deej is right about this btw

also i think it's important to note that there is ALSO a reverse of the indie fans dabbling in pop dynamic, where people who aren't big music heads but throw the radio on in the car & buy songs off itunes that they hear in clubs get the same thing out of girl talk's music except substitute fugazi & the talking heads for oj da juiceman & twista

http://www.riffmarket.com/2008/12/theoretically-unpublished-piece-about.html

this piece is way too long and overthought BUT it has some v otm points in it:

Are we as a pop culture generation easily placated to hear our "references" bounced back to us, no matter the context or skill? Recall the Weezer video for "Pork and Beans." Is the whole game now: "Hey, I know what that is!!"?

...as the Ultimate Fan, Girl Talk exists as a mover not of music but nostalgia. He is the guy at the party who says, "Remember slap bracelets?" Dude: How about devil sticks?

the important distinction obv is that those ppl don't 'look down' on indie music at the same rate that a lot of fans of girl talk 'look down' on a lot of the pop & rap that girl talk employs -- it's more of just an ignorance

idk the problem w/ that excerpt is that like it or not there is a re-contextualization going w/ girl talk -- it may be elementary, and at this point i would argue that the blends on his albums are purposefully more elementary -- but there are people who (rightfully at times) get a kick out of hearing the mash ups that girl talk does -- it's not like he's standing around at shows going "hey everyone remember trina?! well here's 'pull over'!"

also as his audience grows, and it continues to grow from what i can tell, the amount of people that 'get' the references that are being bounced back at us continues to dwindle, and that aspect of the enjoyment of his music becomes less and less prevalent, and it becomes more about tons of people thinking he's a good dj

haha i picture him holding up a 12" of Baddest Bitch and the crowd whooping with excitement (xpost)

I was about to say 'appropriate reaction' but then I rememberer the cover of 'da baddest bitch' and it occurred to me he simply meant 'hay guys, remember booty ass hoes?"

Listening to "Jump on Stage," I'm more satisfied with what he does with T'Pau, New Edition, and "Delirious" than with Radiohead, Portishead, and "Shutterbug."

man this discussion is tedious. People who like him psychoanalyzing those who don't and vice versa...no one is going to convince anyone who thinks it's cheesy cut-and-paste bullshit otherwise and to try to convince people who like it that it sucks is kind of pathetic. The idea that it's some assault on hip hop is transparently ridiculous and that it's a guilty pleasure, well duh. As far as either of those go Girl Talk is harmless simply by nature of its ephemeralness. Each new album makes (an apparently growing number of) people smile for a few spins and then it gets put away. Let us flip our shit for a little bit.

skip flips shit; crits miffed

ha

So Nick Sylvester's thing is Girl-Talk-as-Friedberg/Seltzer ('Date Movie', 'Epic Movie', etc.)? I don't think that actually plays out.
He has a weird thing about Weezer, doesn't he?

this guy is terrible

so glad lex and I agree about something lol

otm, regardless of who you're referring to (xpost)

I heard this played in the pub between rounds of music soundtrack trivia on Tuesday night

i don't know what exactly GT would do live but it's probably on the same low level as 2 Many DJ's ie minimal mixing...

he has all the sample segments he uses in Max/MSP and cues them live, but from a pre-planned set - so he can extend a break or repeat a phrase or skip a section or work some local tracks in depending on what city or country he's in, but you're pretty much going to hear the same set at every show on a tour. then he jumps around a lot in the 30 secs or minute between having to load up a vocal or tweak a mix, and eventually takes off his shirt, and invites kids to come up and jump around on stage too

given the crowd he's built around him I doubt that A-Trak would be sniffy towards non-vinyl DJs!

People who like him psychoanalyzing those who don't and vice versa

This is one of my pet hates in general, where people conjure an archetypal fan of something, and then ascribe negative characteristics to them.

what if you imagined an archetypal fan and shot him?

I don't care about his fans I just hate listening to this, it feels like a waste of time, devoid of ideas

I like ideas.

also lyrics

I asked a friend of mine the other night if she liked Girl Talk. I thought she might because she likes a lot of light just-for-fun pop music, from Chuck Berry to Lil Mama. However, she said she didn't -- in part because it strikes her as "just an exercise" and in part because she's someone who listens to music for lyrics and personalities (music-as-expression, I guess) and Girl Talk scrubs all of that stuff out and makes it all just texture. She said that even though there are obviously lots of words on a Girl Talk record, it feels like an instrumental record. That made sense to me, though of course I'm someone who likes instrumental music and music-as-texture, so I dig it.

...as the Ultimate Fan, Girl Talk exists as a mover not of music but nostalgia. He is the guy at the party who says, "Remember slap bracelets?" Dude: How about devil sticks?

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:03 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

this is our culture now, full stop

Xp: Is it a friend I know?

Jody W.

Girl talk is perfect for attention span. I used to like albums that were high on concept and lyrics, but once I hit my 30s, my brain went to shit. Give me a couple of minutes of some popular music with some nostalgic shit and I'm happy.

this is our culture now, full stop

Except that no, it's not, outside of clusterfuck threads on music nerd messageboards.

idk i seem to remember fresh. year being a bunch of dudes in a dorm crowding around someone's .mov of the original ninja turtles theme & being super excited

its funny to think of 18 yr olds having 'nostalgia' but its whats happening

given the crowd he's built around him I doubt that A-Trak would be sniffy towards non-vinyl DJs!

― i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:32 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i meant to mention, wtf a-trak wouldnt care about non-vinyl DJs at all -- he cares about rocking parties, which he's exceptionally good at. i doubt hes done 'scratch competitions' in years

its funny to think of 18 yr olds having 'nostalgia'

? 18yo have been like this since at least the 70s

ok. i dont have an argument or anything here, i just think its funny

^^ man I picked the solitary post too early itt

Jody W.

― Domingo Halliburton (jaymc), Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

:D

its funny to think of 18 yr olds having 'nostalgia'

? 18yo have been like this since at least the 70s

and man do they miss those days.

i don't know why he would do this...pretty sure he makes enough money off his live shows that he doesn't have to mess with anything else.

surely its like why wouldn't he want to produce some relatively more original shit by doing some crappy Duck Sauce type thing??

talking as a biiiiiig fan of night ripper/feed the animals...All Day is kinda embarrassing.

In what way? As someone who has listened to each of them once, I don't know that I could tell the difference.

Everything seems more obvious than before (yes, i know the whole GT shtick is really obvious anyway), some of the layering goes on for way too long, it just sounds really played out. I should give it a few more listens I guess, think I was underwhelmed by FtA on first listen too.

I think this one is definitely weaker. Like, this is what people accused the first one of being, much more lazy. Night Ripper felt like someone really had spent a couple years painstakingly assembling this thing, working on lots of details and surprises, paying attention to how the samples would accentuate particular moments in the raps and so on... this is much more anonymous or something.

Yeah, I don't entirely disagree with that.

can't believe there's no thread on this album

No thread on the Girl Talk album, surely some mistake

gonna do an "everything but the girl talk" track that mashes up girl talk and everything but the girl

idgi