M83?

coo ur, the things you learn. i'm going back to wget from now on, anyway.

But... Firefox is the prime Mozilla derivative! Maybe you mean Mosaic. I was having some weird connection issues to YSI when you were, I think that they were having problems.

Anyway, this Luciano mix is crazy long! I think it's another one of those where I feel a little shiver every time I hear some element of the original song come in, just because it's so gradual.

which reminds me. i ordered the first M83 album from gooom the other week and it hasn't turned up yet. hmm.

Also: use Camino, dudes. Mac-specific Firefox. Word.

Thanks for the mp3's, grimly!

I think it was Sonic Youth. I was actually a little annoyed that he didn't namecheck the obvious...

Come on, ye YSI. Thanks, Grimly.

In brief (and risking the wrath of the injured Spencer) -- I sense what they were thinking of when they came up with the song and enjoy that, but the end results are kinda flat. (See also most everything by the Killers.)

scene: mono, the glasgow bar, october 7, 2003. GRIMLY and his MATE, whose birthday it is, are sitting being morose in the corner.

MATE: so anyway, i was thinking ...
[the BARMAN puts a CD in the machine and a SONG starts up. it is buzzy and interesting]
MATE: ... and it's the most incredible idea in the world ever ...
[suddenly the SONG begins a beautiful weaving melody and a glorious series of crescendos]
MATE: and it's really, really important that we talk about it now otherwi ... [clang]
[MATE falls over as GRIMLY rushes past him, grabs the BARMAN by the throat and demands to know what this life-changing piece of music is. it turns out to be "run into flowers", and thus a new dawn in GRIMLY'S life begins. many of his friends receive copies of "dead cities" for their birthdays/christmas, including his MATE, who is so blown away he never remembers his big idea. everyone lives slightly more happily ever after than they would without the healing power of "run into flowers".]

well, something like that, anyway.

Righteousness knows no wounds!

Good on yer, that's something close to how I felt when I first heard "Soon." Dead Cities left me cold aside from the final track that just went on forever but did so interestingly. This is one reason why I'm so impressed with the new one, it just feels much more ON -- like leaping out of the speakers and enveloping me immediately on -- and the hyperdrama works whereas the previous one's efforts did not. It felt cold, sterile almost, like those Delgados mega-orchestrated albums that left me terribly cold. The sheer *awe* in which "Run Into Flowers" is regarded with by so many is impressive but I just don't feel it at all.

And then again -- "pure sublime tone and movement, rapturous and melancholy" = that Mogwai track to me. I mean, seriously, this is a great description! I'd just rather use it for another song! :-)

Somewhere way upthread, I compared M83's "Dead Cities" to Spacemen 3's "Playing With Fire". The latter has never been one of my fave S3 albums in part because the drum machines give it a glossy, synthetic quality which I think is unbecoming to S3 (live versions of the same songs are a completely different matter, though).

Similarly, tracks like "Run Into Flowers" and "0078h" have a glossy, overly-polished feel compared to the rawer "Before the Dawn ..." songs, in large part because more real instruments were used. So I can understand why some people would be (perhaps unexpectedly, in the case of someone like Ned) left cold by "Run Into Flowers".

(note: I'm not trying to get all psychoanalytic on him, or argue for the superiority of "real instruments" (yuck))

Furthermore, I would apply those exact criticisms to M83's tour opener, Ulrich Schnauss, who takes an approach to shoegazing that is approx 1000X glossier than anything M83 have done.

The Mogwai set sounds most special. I'm envious! :-) Glad I've seen them a couple of times, though.