In praise of "I Just Can't Stop It" by the English Beat

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I love the bassline on "Mirror In the Bathroom", it is really slippery sounding. It is my favorite tune on the album.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I have an English Beat T-Shirt, one of the few music related T-shirts I even wear anymore, but usually, no one cares at all.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That "Bands Reunited" was a pretty sad affair, it would've been good to see them again.


"Noise In This World" is track no. 9 I think.

zeus, Friday, 8 April 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The sax on this record is simply a thing of unique majesty.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's one of those albums I listened to a lot when it came out, the promptly forgot about. About two years ago I got it on CD and was immediately blown away. It sounds better now than ever.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Friday, 8 April 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

This was a big favourite of mine, but as I haven't heard it for about 20 years, it's hard say much about it. Always good guitar sounds though if I remember and love that echoey public lavatory sound that 'Mirror in the Bathroom' has. 'Twist and Crawl' was great too!

Wha'ppen was good too. Only just found out recently that that's Cedric Myton of the Congos on 'Doors Of Your Heart'. I never knewed! Also, 'Drowning' was great, but what a weird choice of single!

NickB (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

No, you are right about "Noise in this world"...

I'll have to check the lyrics to remind me.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

.. nope.

That's not like me.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The sax on this record is simply a thing of unique majesty.

OTM

This album played at every party I went to that year.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Was "twist and crawl" in the 'greatest basslines' thread? I don't feel like looking, but I'd put it near the top.

superultramega (superultramarinated), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

That record truly brings back fond memories of my later high school years. M. White is OTM about this being a party record. I used to carry the vinyl to parties with me, just in case.

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Rainbow Bum -- there's a great two-CD set, not hugely expensive, called 'Foundation Ska' that's a killer introduction. I could listen to it all day.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Thaks rickey i'll keep an eye out!!

I think i will go see the Beat in a month. They're playing in Buffalo NY right near my house. It's cheap. Anybody else seen them recently? I had no idea they were touring.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 15 April 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
they were an incredibly musically sophisticated group. there's something daft about their records that reminds me of pre-rock pop. like how they maintain a certain sophisticated cool, a certain distance, even in songs with despairing lyrics.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

although i think their best moments are "i confess" and (esp.) "save it for later" (best version is on the 12").

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

bdonk

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 7 May 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

amst did you find all your 2-tone tapes tonight or something?

strng hlkngtn, Saturday, 7 May 2005 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I always liked the melancholy of The Specials and the twisted nuttiness of Madness better. The Beat had an excellent version of "Can't Get Used To Losing You" was classic though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 8 May 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
The Beat had an excellent version of "Can't Get Used To Losing You" was classic though.

this is 100% true!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

dudes i have been spinning this record all week and can't get enough of it. uberclassic!

Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Friday, 26 February 2010 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

You just can't stop it.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 February 2010 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

A few years back I bought a couple of hundred shaggy old lps off a friend of my dad's for a couple of bottles of chablis. Lots of shite, some gold. Good deal. I thought I'd found all the good stuff by now, but this morning I came over "I Just Can't.." in the lower regions of the pile. That made me very happy.

Mule, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

"Tears of a Clown" is not on it, though.

Mule, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

y'all gonna buy those reissues? mine are in the mail right now.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

I'd buy them if I hadn't just bought reissues of the first three a few years back. But really, there's nothing on those albums that I don't like. One of the most underrated pop acts ever.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

^ otm, but damn, that first LP...

contenderizer, Sunday, 10 June 2012 04:42 (thirteen years ago)

The 12" dub mix of Too Nice to Talk To is something special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bOWgk4HZIk

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 10 June 2012 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/9007/Congo_Main_1339269341_crop_550x500.jpg

^ the Congos otm

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)

David Stubbs interviews Ranking Roger and Dave Wakeling of The Beat

Ima Pay Close Attention To Your Post (Doran), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks Doran! Had never heard Psychedelic Rockers before, it's great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfn4c7TIXyA

Another one of those tracks like Too Nice To Talk To where there seems to be quite an afropop influence - or is all that rhythmic bustle just stuff they're picking from reggae?

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's fair enough to say there's an Afropop influence. It's probably their most far out track?

I had no idea how much older their sax player was...

Ima Pay Close Attention To Your Post (Doran), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Think he was about 25-30 years older than the rest of them. Remember reading a piece on them in Smash Hits or No 1 or somewhere where it said that he was 50 and I remember thinking 'fuck me, that's ancient!'

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

So good to hear that he's still around though!

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sRsprxEozRk/TmDgYCtmusI/AAAAAAAAAyg/5LAE_6daFX0/s1600/stingshirt.jpg

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

otm.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

how are Dave Wakeling's fake Beat live?

akm, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

a 3rd rep for "two swords"

might be my favorite beat song.

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

So the 2CD/DVD reissues are out in the UK. Anyone have a quick review?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

amateurist?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:16 (thirteen years ago)

Are they different from the US versions? Because I have everything but the DVD and they seem pretty good to me. I mean, it's the English Beat, a band so good that adding "English" to their name somehow made them even better!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

how are Dave Wakeling's fake Beat live?

Would be curious to this as well, as I passed on them in town a few months ago.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

My understanding is that the Fake Beat is pretty good. I almost saw them last week, but given that the Romantics were also on the bill, I was wary of what the crowd would be like.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

Hmmph. They were headlining here.

I probably should have gone.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

The Edsel versions are better than the US versions.

The US box set has four live tracks which are exclusive to it, plus an exclusive live CD. The live CD will be available later on its own.

The UK releases (collectively) have an exclusive four-song Mike Read session from 1980, an exclusive five-song live set from 1982, an exclusive outtake called "It Makes Me Rock", an exclusive song from a David Jensen radio session, and nine exclusive remixes.

So the UK releases have 20 songs not on the US box - some of them crucial. The US box has four songs not on the UK releases - none of them crucial. (Disregarding the US live CD you can buy on its own, if you like, and disregarding the 3 DVDs on the UK releases.)

The US box set is cheaper - you save about $15 and gain four tracks . . . but lose three DVDs and twenty other songs. I''ve already bought the UK ones.

crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

I saw the Fake Beat in a tiny club outside of Boston last year and they SLAYED. Really! They played everything you could possibly want to hear with verve, sweat and presence. Dave was really approachable and cool and they all looked like they were having fun. If you get the chance, see them.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:42 (thirteen years ago)

do they have some other guy doing all the toasting?

i pre-ordered the USA box before i knew of the UK reissues. maybe i'll turn the USA box around and get the UK reissues. who knows.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_bamhVbhU

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Friday, 29 June 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

saxa's appearance in that video is so great

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Friday, 29 June 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

do they have some other guy doing all the toasting?

Yeah, they do.

I saw the Fake Beat in a tiny club outside of Boston last year and they SLAYED.

I haven't seen them that recently, but twice in the last 5 or 6 years and yes indeed, they were great both times. Would go see them again in a heartbeat. Wakeling's definitely still got it, and the band/arrangements are as tight and grooving as you could want thirty years on.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Monday, 2 July 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

I played this at the last Devon Record Club get together. Just packed with great songs, played by a band with a beautiful, compact sound. They don't get anything like the credit they deserve.

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/the-beat-i-just-cant-stop-it-round-41-robs-choice/

J-Lo Biafra (Rob Mitchell), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

So the Fake Beat did a tour last year with The Paul Collins Beat called, wait for it, "The Two Beats Hearting As One Tour."

Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds awesome. I've seen Paul Collins live but never the English Beat. I want to put this record on now but my wife is taking a nap so I'm stuck with listening to mp3s on headphones instead.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

I want to put it on now but my turntable finally broke a while back and my records are being improperly stored

Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds like a fun tour, especially considering how great Dave & co. were when I saw them last week.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:30 (thirteen years ago)

six years pass...

RIP Ranking Roger.

RIP Roger Charlery aka Ranking Roger.

“Goodnight sweet prince. And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest”. pic.twitter.com/6kVr49cJJH

— pauline black (@paulineblack) March 26, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:46 (seven years ago)

Further word

https://thebeatofficial.com/rip-roger/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:15 (seven years ago)

Imagine being Ranking Roger and knowing your only three albums in a band are three of the greatest albums ever recorded.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:43 (seven years ago)

you're overlooking general public there i think, but yes, the beat fucking rule. rip roger

kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:53 (seven years ago)

Cannot imagine seeing this band in a club...rest in peace, indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NI8_XMq00o

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:07 (seven years ago)

aw jeez. he and wakeling were responsible for some of the greatest pop songs of the 1980s. their voices blended in a very odd and distinctive and fetching way.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:24 (seven years ago)

Imagine being Ranking Roger and knowing your only three albums in a band are three of the greatest albums ever recorded.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 26, 2019 9:43 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you forgetting about general public?

their first album is pretty good (although it has a hideous cover),a nd this song is up there w/ some of the best beat tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XegL32Btzs

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:25 (seven years ago)

both roger and dave were beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-QkQoNCmg4

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:27 (seven years ago)

*coughs* I believe Alfred clearly is distinguishing between 'band' and 'duo,' guys.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:39 (seven years ago)

didn't general public have a bunch of other guys in it?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:42 (seven years ago)

and alfred is absolutely right about the 3 beat albums

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:43 (seven years ago)

they were obviously lumped in with the ska revival but those records are all over the place, in the best possible way.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:43 (seven years ago)

also holy shit roger was ***SEVENTEEN*** in that video alfred posted

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:44 (seven years ago)

(weird, dave wakeling has a long-defunct twitter account and 90% of it is him shitting on joe scarborough: https://twitter.com/dave_wakeling)

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 03:52 (seven years ago)

R.I.P.

I love the Beat albums, and I also have a big soft spot for General Public because their first album coincided with me discovering college radio. I remember when the song "General Public" came out, ahead of the album, and I taped it off the radio. I saw them on the tour for their mostly-forgotten second album, they were great and did a fair selection of Beat stuff mixed in with the GP stuff -- they had Saxa with them, too.

Anyway, great singer/toaster, great songs. "Pato and Roger A Go Talk" 4eva.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 04:31 (seven years ago)

oh this news makes me so sad for the loss, dunno how else to say it

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 04:41 (seven years ago)

are you forgetting about general public?

uh, no? I'm just pointing out that RR appeared on three great albums.

The first GP album is at best good.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 10:15 (seven years ago)

weird, dave wakeling has a long-defunct twitter account and 90% of it is him shitting on joe scarborough: https://twitter.com/dave_wakeling)

― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy),

I swear to god, I thought you wrote "hitting on"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 10:17 (seven years ago)

There’s an alternate universe for you.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:16 (seven years ago)

Ugh cancer.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:07 (seven years ago)

No statement from Dave Wakeling yet?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

Just re-reading this interview with Roger and lol at this little dig @ U2:

It seems you spent a lot of time touring around 81-82 with artists including The Clash, The Specials and even Bowie. Which gigs stand out in your memory today?

Yeah – not forgetting The Police and Talking Heads – and just to let people know that REM used to open up for The Beat. They had three or four tours with us before we made our record company sign them up. Obviously I’m glad that they became massive in the end. U2 opened up for us once – but you know – you meet people along the way and some of them are nice and some of them are horrible – the nice ones you end up working with again. If you’re a diva I don’t want to know, but if you’re grounded and down to earth like a lot of bands around then seemed to be – it still seems to be the way to be.

kolarov spring (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 21:25 (seven years ago)


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