The Prodigy - Classic or Dud ?

For my reply to your message Peter I suggest Google Groups. But damn, it's nice to know you're still out there. I feel all nostalgic now. BRING ON HEATHER THE GARBAGE FAN!

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PS Prodigy? Pff, fuck the Prodigy.

Oh, I spoke too soon. We did clash at least once, but I can't find his response to my post. Anyway, hi Pete!

For Scott: Iain Lee = monstrously unfunny TV comedian w/boggly eyes, recently removed from desperately dire so-called satirical prog The 11 O'Clock Show after someone at Channel 4 finally realised he was rubbish.

Thanks

Peter

BBBY GLSSP = WNKR! @# ! @# !

I still thenk they are/were absolute rub.

I like what Tom says about the inner sleeve to "Jilted Generation" and just thinking about it made me laugh a little bit right now.

Is this the historick first instance of the ILM "random Googler", I wonder?

Hah! I love it. What's wrong with saying fuck the system?

It kind of makes you think, are they saying that the people who wanted to ban the Prodigy, over the years, are super-intelligent and hence they achieved something great by offending these people out of their seats.

Or are they saying, these people were stupid to try and ban us, they are in fact complete reactionary morons, in which case isn't their music kind of shit?

I don't really understand, but one thing seems clear, and that is that are openly and overtly announcing the importance of the reciprocal relationship they have with people who found/find them offensive, be it their fans or right wing American christians.

I mean I can understand a teenager buying into this, the Prodigy did used to seem kind of cool, but at this stage, and at the end of your career, are they trying to say "THE PRODIGY: WE OFFENDED MORONS, SOME OF WHOM HATED US AND OTHERS BOUGHT OUR RECORDS"

I hated Firestarter. Don't get me wrong, I liked the first two albums, but Firestarter was just plain shit. Making Keith Flint an icon was a crime against society.

best post-98 Prodigy: excluding the Dirtchamber mix, Howlett's own remix of You Will Be Under My Wheels

Breezeblock mix was ‘98 so that counts imo

forgot about this (pre-98 but still great)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lEtgbT8v4k

Man, Climbatize is easily one of the best tracks on FOTL. Serial Thrilla is the worst.

I had a listen to 3 Kilos off of Jilted earlier - so good, and nothing like how they usually sound. They were great at doing those more chilled, funky tracks and it's strange they didn't do more of them

DJP, do a best prodigy tracks from 1998 onward

off the top of my head without relistening and without digging into remixes (because tbh I haven't heard a bunch of them yet, I've mostly just rattled around the albums)

Girls
Get Up Get Off
Hotride
You'll Be Under My Wheels
Omen
Take Me To The Hospital
Warrior's Dance
World's On Fire
The Day Is My Enemy
(there was another track off of The Day Is My Enemy that I REALLY liked but of course I can't remember it now)

I don't know No Tourists well enough to pick any tracks off of it

Cheers, I've whacked those into a playlist with a couple of No Tourists tracks

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EVnNNVYCizndzOBXdMn7c?si=8fa33b4a3b034dfc

btw I left Stand Up off my list; really Invaders Must Die is a great album, a lot better overall than Fat Of The Land

oh also Wake Up Call goes pretty hard

i love the prodigy vs dubstep era.
the productions levels finally met their needs.
the 2nd cd that came with the special edition of 'invaders must die', proved the point for me.
for all the classics, i have always chosen the recent material when in the mood purely cos of the insane sonics.
and 'no tourists' is so much fun.
even though it totally sonically references their history (pretty sure that liam acknowledged this at the time of its release).

I agree, individually these newer songs are all pretty impressive sound-wise, but over a whole album it gets really hard to listen to. Then again, I’m too old.

yeah, cos of this thread just listened to 'no tourists' again, and absolutely love it.
a definite case of 'all killer no filler'.
the fact it's a short album means you don't get time to become bored.
yeah, its a retread of well worn prodigy tropes, but it totally works for me.

"firestarter" is still the one i remember after all these years because of that video. it still sounds amazing. i should probably check out more of what they did at some point. i'm going to b2b "born slippy nuxx" and "firestarter" after a charli xcx track for the youngsters at the clurb tomorrow (it's a 90s night).

I'd go with Everybody in the place for a 90s night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY87o9IZXWg

Oh man map, at one point The Prodify where the pinnacle of breakbeat; everything they did was 100% amazing and “Firestarter” was the point where the cracks started to show. If you’re not up on their earlier stuff I would be very happy to babble incessantly about it with you

after djp has preached the early stuff I'm a big apologist for the later stuff, esp always outnumbered, which I've been listening to all summer, perfect summer jams

Most of the tracks off of Jilted forever. Drop Voodoo People or Poison b2b with Born Slippy!

Totally throwing on some stuff from this era and the Chemical Brothers remix of Voodoo People is so damn good

So many lovely little melodies on Experience

i like how unhinged and dangerous "firestarter" sounds, mainly because of keith's performance. (shit i did not realize that he died of suicide in 2019 :( god that sucks). i think i've tried with the earlier stuff but it didn't scratch the same itch. i need keith being an absolute fucking maniac.

My boring-but-important opinion is that "No Good (Start The Dance)" is their pinnacle in the sense that it takes Howlett's capacity for physically menacing production to its absolute zenith while having absolutely no heavy-handed signifiers of menace whatsoever.

"Poison" is fine, but in retrospect it's the start of the music's slow brain rot (though to be clear "Firestarter" and "Smack My..." and one or two others are absolute bangers.

The Firestarter episode of 60 Songs That Explain the 90's is one of the best in that series too.

I will admit, while there's some absolute duds on Fat of the Land, the production quality Howlett was able to pull off was pretty damn next level compared to the previous records.

It certainly sounds great

"no good (start the dance)" is great, what a video.

at one point The Prodify where the pinnacle of breakbeat; everything they did was 100% amazing and “Firestarter” was the point where the cracks started to show.

it's funny that jilted was so exciting when it came out due to the direction they were taking but then the same direction killed the joy you can hear in experience and to some extent in jilted.

"no good (start the dance)" is great, what a video.

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Yeah I can't think of the song without the video clip appearing in my head, it really captures that vibe of rave hedonism transmuting into something deeply ominous

One secret quality of "No Good" and "Voodoo People" in particular is how rhythmically dense they are, simultaneously running along on a 4x4 kick and palsied breakbeats - it's like they can never decide whether they want to be pop songs or a Jeff Mills DJ set

First two albums are without a single flaw. Third one I sometimes bow to the consensus on the two Keith album tracks but otherwise...

And then there's the two 00s albums and that makes five I have listened to endlessly over the years. I'm practically required by law to like the 00s albums of any and all 90s dance giants and so it proves. The 10s albums are the ones that are actually choppy.

Unrelated but I really want to go to a 90s night. I'm such a stranger to club nights and I'm curious what they're like and what I'd be like.

Anyway, all that said, Experience is still The One - for rave in LP form full stop. Especially with the 2001 bonus disc.

My friend was playing us a mix he'd made during some downtime at a festival and "Your Love" came on and maaaaan that is a special tune. Experience still holds up so incredibly well I think