Oasis - Classic or Dud?

I got as far as the bus stop when I realised that I had two album 1's.

Went back got an exchange. There that got yer.

Oh well.

I just think they were in the right place at the right time.

Gold or beans? Definitely beans.

Also, in what sense, exactly, were they "indie"?? Certainly not in the label sense. And not in the music sense either, near as I can tell. I mean, they were a vaguely glammy guitar-pop band. Period - about as "indie" as the Black Crowes. And about as close to being the Beatles as the Crowes were to being the Stones, too. (So I could ask how they were "obnoxious," as well, but then again, I only listened to the music and never read the interviews, which might explain it.)

Steepest decline: Lauren Hill, Tricky, Prince or Stone Roses?

And "Wonderwall" really is one of their worst songs I've never understood why it was their "breakthrough hit" in the US - certainly it was the only thing I ever heard on the radio. "Don't Look Back in Anger" was soooo much better.

I've always noticed this prob. on ILM between the Brits and Americans...it's like America has this very defined idea of "indie" (usually a record label thing) and in England it's like....4 Guys....Guitar music....not heavy metal or mohawk-type straight up punk....It's Indie!

Then again, if it is strictly about record labels, then Depeche Mode and New Order were "indie" bands.

So are Third Eye Blind and Smashmouth indie too, then? (I forget if they had four guys, but they definitely fit the rest of your definition.)(I mean, it's taken me a while to understand the whole "indie is kind of music" rather than "indie is something on an indie label" line, but even the "kind of music" that people usually refer to as indie doesn't usually include plain old mainstream rock bands, right?) (Unless they're, I dunno, My Morning Jacket. Or the Drive By Truckers. Or the Kings of Leon. And so on. But that's NOW; back in the '90s indie kids HATED mainstream rock, I always thought.)

Well, sorta. The way it actually worked is that the band signed to Sony worldwide and *then* were licensed back to Creation.

LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL: Indie and all its subgenres (indie-rock, indie-dance, etc.) are NOT styles of music. They're a description of what commercial demographic you're marketing your records to, as well as if the companies that produce the records are owned by the five "majors" currently in existence. There's no such thing as indie in the musical sense, and that's why ILM has such a hard time describing indie: because it doesn't exist!

Yes you should. ;-) The first formal Sony/Creation deal on a labelwide level was late 1992, when Sony bought in for just under half of Creation.

Neither classic nor dud. They got some good suff and some real rubbish.

Despite the short period of excellence, I've got to go "classic" because they were just SO HUGE from 1994-1996. That's a three year chunk of British music history that has to be viewed in the context of what Oasis were doing/saying/playing at the time, and that sort of dominance is rare in music.

Then pretty dismayed to find that behind the sullen sneer they were the sort of boorish macho dullards I was crossing the street to avoid on my way home in Liverpool every night.

Classic for "Acquiesce"; Dud for most of the rest; Super-Dud for their contribution to "lad culture" and Beatles necrophilia.

There was a week in whatever year it came out that I thought Don't Look Back In Anger was the greatest song ever. Then I didn't. Now, I still have a soft spot for it, and a fair few other bits of theirs (Live Forever in particular). Plus Noel Gallagher usually seems to give very entertaining interviews, and does the whole personality crisis schtick (in his case usually manifested as "that last stuff we did was shit, but this is us back on form") a billion times better than Robbie fucking Williams.

Little By Little is very probably one of my least favourite songs ever, though, and lots of their stuff is just very dull. Some Might Say... dear god, no. So, yeah, neither classic nor dud, just somewhere in between.

How exactly were they "huge" (outside of England, I mean)? In the US, as I've written on other threads, they were just another okay band -- about as important as Third Eye Blind or Smashmouth or somebody.
-- chuck (cedd...), January 23rd, 2004.

They are still huge in Mexico, as far as I could tell from last year. Must be the Anglophilia!

The tunes - Inoffensive, if not entirely unoriginal. And overrated.
The lyrics - Mostly shit.
The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring.
"Personality" - Apart from the brothers incomprehensibly berating each other all the time (and that, too, got dull), the band has zero in the personality department....nicknames like "Bonehead" notwithstanding.
Stage presence - Once again, apart from Liam acting like an ass, null & void.
Album cover art - Yawnsome.
Edge - Oft-touted, rarely displayed.
Groove - Non-existant.

So a score draw for me.

A friend has suggested the sketch is implied reverse revenge for things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_RVsRDTg04

_Ned posting in an oasis thread this is not what I was expecting_


I honestly can't tell how sarcastic this comment is meant to be!

wow those accents are uncannily spot on!

LEGEND 🙌 !!!!!!!! https://t.co/jaVFlbpEnK

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maybe

The color one has Happy Mondays Bummed cover energy.

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You gotta roll with it

Neither Classic nor Dud, but absolutely essential listening for any tradesmen who come to the house to carry out work for the last two decades.

https://www.stereogum.com/2313770/green-day-invite-fan-to-play-good-riddance-eject-him-when-he-plays-wonderwall-instead/news/

missed opportunity, armstrong should have just sung a few lines of "boulevard of broken dreams" over it

good riddance to anyone trying to play wonderwall (including Gallagher bros)

is there a show

Show is a strong word

good riddance to anyone trying to play wonderwall (including Gallagher bros)

― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 09:42 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

The entire fucking Barmy Army earlier

Dud

no way sis

just remembered about this today, listening to it instead of 6music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiMnUBFbQJg

So miss Neil's writing and Chart Music appearances.

You gotta be yourself
You can’t be no one else

I was thinking about seeing them at Soldier Field when prices dipped low enough but, uh, they did not. Still stunned that not only did they sell out an NFL stadium, but three days before the show and $400 per ticket is still the cheapest secondhand option.

Has anyone seen them on the US part of the tour?

Seems like half my FB friends did.

Yep. Phenomenal

The fans I know who have gone have loved it, but I saw one guy who went to a UK show and a US show say the enthusiasm from the audience was definitely greater at the UK show.

I did, much bigger Blur fan, enjoyed it a lot and was happy they used some of the big ticket price for cool graphics since we couldn’t see the band. All in all I would not pay $300 again though. Except for Blur even if a worse show :D

(I might be clouded by the fact I actually paid $600 for two tickets to my casual fan husband would go 🤣)

Was at Batnes & Noble in the mall today checking out the magazines... saw no less than six different publications devoted to Oasis.

I would have loved to have gone but nah. I have a really good expensive Gallagher brothers type haircut though.