Raveonettes - classic or CLASSIC?

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I've completely turned around from my "Feh" comment from two years ago in the other thread. The new album is great great great and I'm glad they had Richard Gottehrer produce again.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the video where they pretend 2 b killing each other is fantastic.

piscesboy, Monday, 14 March 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Gottehrer is a pop genius. Maybe Raveonettes have been marketed badly. One thing's for sure they'll never sound like a Gottehrer record on stage.

mnm, Monday, 14 March 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they still identical to The Kills?

La Monte (La Monte), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone gmail me that my boyfriend's back cover?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You can find it here:

http://carburetordung.blogspot.com/

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

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The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

nothing i've heard from them before has done anything for me, but little steven played three songs from the new album on his show last night they all sounded bubble-icious.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

At the risk of committing the deadly sin of self-promoting, I have two mp3s up at www.mysticalbeast.blogspot.com. Whoops, sin committed.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

THANKS! "Trashcan" is great, but the cover is disappointing.
Bette Bright released a fantastic version in '78 of My Boyfriends.. w/Glen Matlock on bass.

mnm, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
can't speak for the rest of the new album, but the song "Ode to LA" is stupendous.....as close to "Be My Baby" as one could possibly be w/out seeming like a complete rip-off. can't wait for the album.

PB, Saturday, 2 April 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

total crap

breezy, Saturday, 2 April 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I doubt there is an original melody on the album, but they are such great stealers this time around. "Ode To La" is my favorite track, actually.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 2 April 2005 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they're brilliant. I have fallen head over heels for 'Pretty In Black'.

Anna (Anna), Saturday, 2 April 2005 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know who's the guest vocalist on "Ode to L.A."?

??????, Sunday, 3 April 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
saw the video for "trashcan" the other day. great clip, cool early '60s nostalgia. rest of the disc isn't doing much for me tho.

ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I Lurve this record, especially "Here Comes Mary"

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah "Hear Comes Mary" is my fave... but the fact that it so heavily and blatantly plagiarises "(All I Have to Do Is) Dream" by the Everly Brothers sort of taints it.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like this.

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I was struck the other day by how similar "Remember" (the first track on their last album) is to "Just Like Honey" by the JAMC. Blatant rip-off, but still a good song.

They were great on Conan, by the by.

PB, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

That's Ronnie Spector on "Ode to L.A."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 13 May 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Seeing 'em again tonight (first time through was opening for Depeche at Staples Center, tonight is the Detroit Bar -- a rather smaller affair).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

...and that was a pretty good set, a bit static but the highs were highs. Also, nice job covering both Sonic Youth's "100%" and the Gun Club's "Sex Beat," I'd say!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

I loved Whip It On, but I never exactly fell in love with the second one. I really should check out the third one after reading this thread. Is there a new one on the way or something?

I know, right?, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

a new album is TBA for this year, according to some upcoming releases lists.

StanM, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

There's some new songs on their MySpace page. Going to see them tonight at the Echo.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Opening act Midnight Movies is pretty good too -- their set started as basic Velvet/Can worship (no complaints, but that's all it was) but as things went on they kept bringing all sorts of other stuff to bear, and ended on a fine high note.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Opening act Midnight Movies is pretty good too

Agreed. I've seen them a couple times before (including the Stereolab show you were at). New album is worthy

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

including the Stereolab show you were at

THAT'S how I know them. It was really bugging me last night!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

toss

fandango, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

New album is out this month! This Dead Sound song is good.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

In other words, why was I not informed?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

because they've got an indie budget now

electricsound, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

They've been steadily posting about it on their MySpace page + playing some of the new songs at their shows this year.

Gut reaction: it's not hitting me as immediate as Pretty In Black did, but I'm liking it a lot.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Really, I completely missed out on Pretty In Black after I was told it pretty much sucks ass. But I only ever loved Whip It On. Lust is filthy.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

The opening track on this is pretty amazing.

baaderonixx, Friday, 30 November 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

This is really really good. First indie album I've heard in a long time that I've liked.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 7 February 2008 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

They remind me a bit of Black Tambourine.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 7 February 2008 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

this is somewhat of an appealing thing to me

electricsound, Thursday, 7 February 2008 07:44 (eighteen years ago)

did calum start this thread?

jabba hands, Thursday, 7 February 2008 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

The new disc -- Lust Lust Lust -- appeared on eMusic today. I'm very curious based on the review, which says it's better than 'Psychocandy'.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 19 February 2008 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

^^ rong obv

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Probably so, but the favorable comparison still speaks well of the disc. Others upthread seem to like it, too. Is it just a JAMC knockoff?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 19 February 2008 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

goddamn, two days after i buy a copy and FP finally fucking get off their ass to put it on emusic. typical. anyway it's a very fun record, if not up to the standards of the last two

electricsound, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

evidently i can't access it on emusic so no harm done

electricsound, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

I am happy with the recent JAMC-type indie releases - Raveonettes, A Place To Bury Strangers, Magnetic Fields, etc. It's a very welcome return of sonic depth to iPod-quality indiepop.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

Man that APTBS disc is good. The way a record oughta be.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 19 February 2008 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'll probably be crucified for saying it, but Lust Lust Lust is exactly what I was hoping to get from the disappointing Magnetic Fields album.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

i haven't heard distortion but i'm sure that's entirely fair

electricsound, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

The Black Tamborine comment is very astute ... it has a strong Aislers Set feel to it. It sounds like it belongs on Slumberland, not Vice. Extremely strong album, but will it be remembered at the end of the year?

zaxxon25, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

they don't strike me as an indie-burlesque-friendly sound

milo z, Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:32 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

lust lust lust is pretty great. obv. the JAMC references are huge on the record, but it works cuz the songs are good....also i was suprised by a few moments (like aly walk w.me) that go into actual hellish noise not just "indie noisy-ish guitars".....

in a way they are sort of doing the same thing times new viking is doing for a different set of historical references (JAMC/Kitchens of Distinction vs. GBV/Stiltbreeze shit)

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

It's all about "Blitzed" these days

milo z, Sunday, 22 June 2008 21:16 (seventeen years ago)

Why did I ignore this band for so long?

Tape Store, Sunday, 22 June 2008 21:27 (seventeen years ago)

this new album = still excellent, top 5 of 2008 so far

stephen, Monday, 23 June 2008 08:49 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

anyone heard sune rose wagner's solo elpee?

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:54 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

how's the new album? how are they live?

W i l l, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

New album is fantastic, lots of variety for a Raveonettes album, the mood is lighter and more fun, the feedback from Lust is scaled back in favor of bigger harmonies and hooks. And they're great live, too!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

The new album has been getting mediocre reviews overall (the last one did too).

I'm always surprised by critical reaction to this band. They sound like their influences (but update that sound, and they don't become pastiche). And they suffer critically for it, unlike a lot of other acts that do the same, e.g., Interpol; Vivian Girls; Crystal Stilts; A Place To Bury Strangers; The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart (I like-to-love all these bands, BTW).

Anyway, classic.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 14 October 2009 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

The Raveonettes are better and more consistent than any of the acts Daniel just listed. Anyone digging that cloying Pains album would do themselves a big favor to check out this new Raveonettes one. It's in the same vein (generally) but a much better listen.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

Good but weird Raveonettes show last night in Austin. Three songs in, "It's too hot to play drums in Texas!" Next 5-6 songs were all drumless, giving them a more freeform, bubblegum-psych vibe. Each of them did a song mid-set completely solo, while the other just stood there. Three guys from the Black Angels joined them for the last two songs -- "Lust" and "Aly" -- which with two guitars, two drum sets and a fuzzed-out bass sounded thick and powerful. Encore break... then they covered "100%" (Sonic Youth) and called it a night.

Anyway... they headlined the first night of Austin Psych Fest, so pretty sure the focus on noise/freeform structure was intentional. They didn't play anything too "poppy," e.g., no "Last Dance," "Dead Sound," "Candy" or any of their other super-upbeat tunes.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 24 April 2010 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

Some of the songs worked really well without drums, by the way. Others fell flat -- "Break Up Girls" for example, which lost all of its momentum when slowed in pace and played with just guitar and bass.

"Love in a Trashcan" was great.

"Ghost Riders" was great.

"Heart of Stone" (this one was done with drums, early in the set) was fantastic.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 24 April 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

Raveonettes cover I Wanna Be Adored. It's for some sort of silly Doc Martens anniversary comp, but the cover is great and worth the hassle to download.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks for the tip. That's good!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

raveonettes are a sorely underappreciated band.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

One of those 'where did the time go' PR mailouts:

THE RAVEONETTES CELEBRATE 10TH ANNIVERSARY

New album, Observator, out in the fall.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

neat. their last album is probably my favourite since their proper debut

relatively joan rivers (electricsound), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

i think Observator is a bit thin on proper songs, not to mention i like 'em better in full-on shoegaze mode, or full-on pop mode, than this moody, in-between land of minor key songs with fewer hooks and less guitar noise... opening track is a dagger, tho.

ilxor, Monday, 17 September 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

man i'm p in love with the new one!

opening track is one of their all time songs for sure

the best Laid jams (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think it's quite as good as raven, which was one of their best, but no disappointment certainly

upset and upsetting (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

the lush-u-like guitars in sinking with the sun are glorious

bansplain (electricsound), Friday, 19 October 2012 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

never heard these guys until observator. I can imagine younger me getting properly obsessed with this record if it were, like, 1986. As it stands it's fantastic alone-in-the-house stuff

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 March 2013 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

insanely beautiful song from the newest album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa7JfWsMxgs

Hot Drexel Students (Treeship), Friday, 12 September 2014 05:13 (eleven years ago)

i like this album but it's the first one of theirs to disappoint me since lust lust lust. the previous 3 are immense records

a cheese has occurred (electricsound), Friday, 12 September 2014 05:45 (eleven years ago)

allow me to repeat myself once more

a cheese has occurred (electricsound), Friday, 12 September 2014 05:46 (eleven years ago)

observator is amazing, it's true.... but so is lust lust lust. and so is pe-ahi. i feel like this band is underrated. burying lush melodies under mountains of fuzz and laying ehtereal, sometimes cryptic vocals on top of it all is seen as an easy, tried and true formula. i'm not sure it is though. the raveonettes aren't my bloody valentine, but still there aren't many other bands who do what they do as well.

Hot Drexel Students (Treeship), Saturday, 13 September 2014 11:40 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, they're MBV + JAMC.

Hakeem Olajuwon Howard (Leee), Sunday, 14 September 2014 00:53 (eleven years ago)

i have never heard mbv in them at all

a cheese has occurred (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2014 01:15 (eleven years ago)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/15346386411_ea95658f31_c.jpg

I was lukewarm on Observator, but their set at Austin Psych Fest last year was a big highlight and last night's show upped even that. I hadn't really given Pe-ahi a chance yet - but the new songs sound great live. I'll just go ahead and say it - they aren't MBV, but Curve 1993. Their sound is just that unstoppable. Do not miss.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 September 2014 11:04 (eleven years ago)

four weeks pass...

raveonettes are a sorely underappreciated band.

so true

surprised there's never been a "best of"/introduction sort of comp but it would probably be a licensing nightmare

mit iodine (electricsound), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:25 (eleven years ago)


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