Rush: Classic or Dud?

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Oh dear, where did my line breaks go...

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Childhood memories
Older brother worships them
Despite this, they ROCK

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Repeated listens
Render it annoying, eh
Still, sentimental

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
I'm so bored tonight that I'm reading vintage "classic or dud"'s, and I have to say that the stipulation of submitting answers in haiku format is pure, unhomogenized genius. More please!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Objectivist Rock a la Ayn Rand = DUD!

Jack Cole, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Unhomogenised
Gen-i-us?" You would say that,
Since you started it!

Jeff W, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BA da BA BA BA

da BA BA BA BA da-da

BA da BA BA BA...

Joe, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil Peart squeals, righteous in his Objectivist zeal but all their songs suck

Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Drummers Who Write songs
Didn't make Hüsker Dü suck
it was Geddy's voice.

Mr Noodles, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
They may be cheesy
But add rocking conviction
Who else but Rush eh?

piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush sucks my big dick
Geddy lee is a scourge on Earth
prog rock motherfucks

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

more rush haikus please

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew L missed the whole point of "Spirit of Radio"! TAO: Your second line would actually fit haiku conventions if you made it "Geddy is a scourge on Earth".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Fly by night limelight
Too many notes played at once
Blame's on Toronto

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you sweet sundar, you are correct. that is what i meant to do. *tries to awkwardly plant a kiss on sundar's cheek and is promptly slapped on the face* ouch.

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ayn Rand prog rockin'
Canadian eunuch squeals
You people so dumb!

Confucius, Friday, 8 October 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

moving pictures has
the very worst cover art
which is such a shame

subdivisions rocks
which counters all that i've been
told about this band

the lyrics are too
obvious but what can you
expect from hosers?

derrick (derrick), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

'Limelight' licks are great
'Signals' is a true classic
The rest smells like wee

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Once I crossed the street
Geddy Lee almost hit me
In his Land Rover

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

CLASSIC as long as this man was Prime Minister:

http://www.clevernet.on.ca/pierre_trudeau/images/pic_trudeau_beer.jpg

DUD thereafter

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

[...wish I coulda found a picture of him riding on a train & flipping off protesters thru the window!]

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush is good
for opening up my pooper
so other men can do me

Good Dog, Friday, 8 October 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

. . . Or maybe not

Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

fact checkin cuz to thread

sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

worst. voice. ever.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No, that is Brian Johnson, Robert Plant or Bruce Dickinson. But Geddy Lee's voice is not far behind.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.
-- scott p (scot...), June 21st, 2001.

the wisdom in this succinct observation is humid. i loved rush until i discovered indie and punk rock in high school. hearing that particularly melodramatic cut "the trees" (i think that's the title) is still powerfully evocative of my 13-15 years, playing D&D, obsessing about securing issue # 202 of Spiderman, and committing to memory SNL lines. so i'll grant my meaningless benediction upon Rush in the same manner as the astute scott p.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush: Sophomore Lit.
texts become some deep and
meaningful lyrics.

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Red Barchetta" plays
on radio, Rush fan gets
a speeding ticket.

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fans debate how to
say Peart. Does it sound like "pert"?
No, it rhymes with "near".

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Here: Rush's real names
Alex Zivojinovic
Gary Lee Weinrib

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic.

NEER-neer-neener-neener
NEE nee nerr
NEER-neer-neener-neener...

That's my "Tom Sawyer" tribute. They should have collaborated with Gary Numan. Maybe there's still time.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They sort of define dud, don't they?

Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They define "dude," as in, one kid goes, "Dude, check out Neil's drum solo." Other kid nods in appreciation: "Duuuuuuude." I guess with each passing year I like them less than I did when I was 15, but I still wonder what people who dislike them aren't hearing. Maybe they haven't heard "Natural Science," or "Hemispheres," or "The Camera Eye." I guess Geddy's voice can be annoying but so can Neil Young's and Johnny Rotten's.

clark, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Canadian crap
You hosers should have stayed home
why why oh god why?

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush shall be absolved
of all sonic crimes because
"Working Man" kicks ass

Will (will), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

rickenbacker bass
slingerland and tama drums
gibsons for alex

(uh, not that i knew very much about 'em)

naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Second-string classic
opening for Aerosmith.
As headliner, dud.

briania (briania), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthem, In the End
Best I Can and Bastille Day
-songs neil ain't write, joe

naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

A sad but true fact :
No women, none, anywhere
Are fans of Rush. None.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Geddy had the suaveness:
'Hey baby, the hour is late, I
feel I've got to groove'

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Geddy got his name
When his immigrant mother
Mispronounced "Gary"

I do enjoy them
Since, unlike so much prog-rock
They have some real hooks.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Read an interview
Where Peart described some of his
Practice methods. Wow.

And I don't mean to
Be facetious. That stuff was
Cool to a young me.

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex posted a fake setlist on FB.

The 12th song - Drum Solo ( titled “ Eat it, You Sexist Fucknuckles”) - LOL.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 8 June 2026 18:45 (six days ago)

honestly the thing is I've seen like 1000 supportive posts about Anika for every sexist one, feels like people invented this strawman based on a stereotype of Rush fans

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 June 2026 18:51 (six days ago)

The best sense of it is probably this:

* Dudes certainly can love Rush
* Time (far from standing still) has clearly shown it's never been all dudes in the fanbase, especially over recent decades
* Lots of people outside said fanbase responded to news of Anika coming on board by making jokes about 'oh an actual woman in the arena at the time they play?' as if it was clever
* THOSE are the people who deserve to be trashed

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 June 2026 19:14 (six days ago)

I just ignore idiots like that. It's been nothing but a warm welcome for the new drummer, as close to universal approval as I could've hoped for. Man, she hits hard.

Regarding the presence of fourth member Loren Gold, he was useful on tracks where Geddy would've been pinned down by his taurus pedals. Ged sure liked being free during Spirit of Radio, which was cute. The piano on The Garden was especially nice.

A. Begrand, Monday, 8 June 2026 20:00 (six days ago)

*hey what the hell you only live once, right??*

*checks out prices on Chicago tickets*

*faints*

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 June 2026 20:42 (six days ago)

srsly

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2026 20:58 (six days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsAgGYM8_-A

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 12:44 (four days ago)

sheesh yeah, I remember seeing a couple for Chicago in the $150-200 range not that long ago, wonder if these videos have convinced a bunch of fencesitters to go

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:19 (four days ago)

I don't know anything about the new drummer's background but it's refreshing that she doesn't seem to fundamentally be a prog metal musician. Can't stand all those Portnoy types, whatever they're playing you just know they want to bust out the double kicks and bore you to death. Good choice on Geddy and Alex's part.

I've seen the Beadle and the damage done (Matt #2), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:31 (four days ago)

her own stuff is primarily jazz fusion, not great but definitely not a metal thing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:35 (four days ago)

amusingly I bet most of those people would probably cite Peart as their biggest influence, but they seem to miss the fact that Peart was still a basher first and foremost, this new lady seems to be too

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:42 (four days ago)

Yeah, she hits hard! One of the best things about her in this band is despite the fact that Neil's parts are all more or less through-composed, orchestrated and very specific, she still finds way to make her mark. Like how on "Red Sector A" in that clip she doesn't enlist v-drums, or elsewhere how her kit doesn't have Neil's really high-tuned toms, which encourages her to change up some of the fills.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:45 (four days ago)

Quite a difference in setlists between nights!

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 14:58 (four days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTdVBY4dpbI

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:12 (four days ago)

This looks like the most joyful, celebratory tour ever, lol.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:14 (four days ago)

Don't want to admit how much of my current mental health is dependent on "Tom Sawyer" drum fill vids

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:34 (four days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_x_vrSZBM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 18:48 (four days ago)

I know she's a professional and all, but watching that first show I was awestruck at Niles' ability to even *remember* all those parts, let alone nail them. Felt a bit tense in places but then they were ripping thru YYZ and it was joyous.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 20:15 (four days ago)

If you pay attention, you can see her jump with surprise when the fire pots go off during Red Sector A, pretty charming.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2026 23:08 (four days ago)

Unexpectedly overcome by night 2 videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K-y4SreyOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTX7nTwwPIY

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 June 2026 00:10 (three days ago)

I love all of this so much. So wholesome!

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 June 2026 03:33 (three days ago)

Like, there is something really inspirational about it, they're doing something kind of amazing by going back out and playing these songs.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 June 2026 03:34 (three days ago)

Last night they stuck a complete Moving Pictures performance right in the middle of the show. No big deal.

The way these songs and setlists are being juggled really reflects the fun everyone's having. What a gift.

A. Begrand, Friday, 12 June 2026 13:57 (two days ago)

ya given the situation they could be forgiven for playing the same set every night but the fact that they're switching it up and doing all the most difficult stuff is really something

frogbs, Friday, 12 June 2026 14:07 (two days ago)

also apparently Sabrina Carpenter was at this show, hell yeah

frogbs, Friday, 12 June 2026 14:11 (two days ago)

To nitpick - seems to be no Power Windows, little of HYF, Presto, Vapor Trails. Seems strange given the keyboard options onstage

Further nitpicking - I think it’s a decent shout that Neil was most responsible for the static setlists and although the rotating etc they are doing now is great, I think the full song list is a bit conservative - they have staples they must play basically but I think this was a good opportunity to *really* play whatever the hell they liked beyond the ‘hits’

Master of Treacle, Friday, 12 June 2026 14:49 (two days ago)

I guess, but it also reminds me of how the Flaming Lips would always introduce "She Don't Use Jelly" as something many in the crowd had heard a lot before, but also a song that many newbies in the crowd have never seen performed before, so just be happy for them. In the case of Rush, this is their first tour in around a decade, which means most people under the age of, I dunno, 25 or so have probably never had a chance to see the band, not to mention anyone else introduced to them in the past 10 years. So hits, whole albums, epic songs, it's nice they're shaking it up as much as they are, since they're trying to appeal to everyone from the heads to the kids.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2026 15:15 (two days ago)

Rush played a chunk of Power Windows on their 2012 tour, and it was awesome. With a tour this long, I wouldn't put it above them to toss in a track eventually.

A. Begrand, Friday, 12 June 2026 16:44 (two days ago)

I think this was a good opportunity to *really* play whatever the hell they liked beyond the ‘hits’

I think a lot of these veteran bands, even if and especially when they have played hundreds of shows, have internalized that what gets the audience reactions is "good", in spite of their own tastes. Like Judas Priest saying that when they played a song from their first album, the whole audience just stared at them, or Townshend saying the Who wouldn't be playing "Slip Kid" because no-one wants it. If the response is less than rapturous, they think they've done wrong.
Also I don't know to what extent Geddy and Alex really would enjoy playing "Take a Friend" or "Stick It Out" or whatever third-tier track.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 June 2026 17:01 (two days ago)

I wonder if it's because much of Power Windows (still my fave!) and Hold Your Fire require lots of drum triggering. Anika did some of that, but that doesn't really seem to be her thing. Hence the lack of v-drums.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2026 17:35 (two days ago)


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