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It means that guy in the interview is going to be what you see next to you in bed when you wake up some day. Strange, I know.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Jandek could be working at a bank near you. imagine that!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Jandeks cuffs are not unlinked.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Six And Six, You Walk Alone, Telegraph Melts and Blue Corpse are my favs.Warning: Once you start you may never come back...Jandek will mess with your mind.

― brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...

So now there's this new Jandek best of and I'm all like "Oh great, I can finally hear what's so great about this band without wading through 88 hours of pond-scum" and I put the thing on and it is COMPLETE FUCKING TORTURE! This is his BEST stuff? What the FUCK are people talking about?! "Catchy" "songs"?! Haha "hooks"?!?! And even for an indie-rock guy Jandek can NOT fucking SING!! ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL ON THE FUCKING CRACK???? STOP SMOKING THE FUCKING CRACK! IT IS BAD FOR YOU!

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Favorite albums: Lost Cause, Interstellar Discussion, The Rocks Crumble, The Beginning. (The latter ends with about 20 minutes of solo piano that's better than some Cecil Taylor records I own.) (Some, not all.)

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It's funny this thread should be revived...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

What's more surprising: Jandek having a best of? Gygax not being into Jandek?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ian: Gygax is parodying something on the GBV thread...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, darn me for not reading the GBV thread first.

Alas and alack.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry about that, but yeah replace Jandek with Los Del Rio, Basement Jaxx, Dean Friedman, etc. Typical ILM BS.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post --> too much scrabble has scrambled your head, little hobbit.

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

longest crosspost delay evah

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, i got your AIM at about 4:30am this morning JC. the Jandek exercise was not founded in fact (although i haven't listened to the man in several years now).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

It's turned into something more involved and interesting than I expected, and is definitely no longer trying to be an exact portrait like the earliest chapters try and be. Somewhere between fanfic and psychological study, eventually. Or so I hope.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

you should send it to the great man himself when you're done

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Good lord, what a frightening thought.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, you should send it to him. I sent a letter to Jandek a few years ago because I wanted to get his permission to use his music in a film project that I never actually got around to working on, and he sent me a letter in return. He explained that he doesn't mind people using his music in films, but does not want money, only credit. He offered to send me a box of cds, and for some reason I never wrote back and accepted his offer even though I really would have liked to have had a bunch of free Jandek cds.

I'll have to set aside some time to read your stuff, Ned...

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

things to do with a boxful of jandek cds...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeeps, personally I'd think it was a weird intrusion! Especially since the story really only uses his general situation and some specific details as a background to something else which is invented out of whole cloth. I've specifically not used his name (or the label's or any of the album titles) for a reason.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose I'll let the guys at the fansite know about it, though. Hell, it's where I'm getting all the chapter titles and the image on the main page!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, yes, my little novel thing is done and I did write Seth Tisue about it, at least, along with including a little disclaimer of sorts. Rah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

you wrote a novel based on jandek album titles?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope, not titles.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

covers?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Not specifically.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

complete and utter speculation?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Read the disclaimer.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

No!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

jandek doesnt seem that great once youre used to him

― duane, Friday, 7 November 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

same w. the dropping a guitar on yr foot thing i guess

― duane, Friday, 7 November 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah but think of the infinite ways one can drop a guitar on one's foot

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 8 November 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

I love Janedek.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 5 August 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

I love Banacek.

― Irv Beevlefetzer, Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

if you mean former pittsburgh steeler john banacek, then i'm on your side.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Jandek is a box of smoke. Open it and...*poof*.

― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

did you call me a poof?

― electricsound, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

Twenty years ago I came across Jandek records and was naturally pretty miffed. Then I read some short article in Option, I believe. Seemed like an interesting oddity. Then lost touch with it. Then ran across that Jandek on Corwood film, which I thought managed to express both a sincere appreciation and still keep its wits about the situation. I thought Doug Wolk did a very good job balancing his analysis, as opposed to the Half Japanese movie The Band That Would Be King where Cosloy and Coley came off like pompous assclowns (OK, Byron you don't own any Beatle records, you're really cool) and Half Japanese sounded like a bad joke.

But then I read that Jandek was out performing and it seemed so wrong. As if the concept finally ran its course and was now something else that didn't quite work. I dunno. I'd be curious how others see it.

That's my longwinded way of asking: how do you feel about Jandek in 2007?

― smurfherder, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

I saw a show, it was fair, but ultimately kind of boring (though I am very glad I went). But I have been listening to Manhattan Tuesday though and it sounds pretty nice.

― Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 04:09 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

McJandek.

― Gorge, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm fucking greater than Jandek, and I can't play much either. Here's a whole album on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVfydUa-I78

I don't get Jandek.

― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 08:56 (eighteen years ago)

I agree, it would've been much cooler if the man just had quit at some point and enter total obscurity (again) (not even reprinting sold out records)

― Ludo, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

"cooler"

― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:03 (eighteen years ago)

surely you are also greater than jackson pollock and william carlos williams

don't sell yourself short

xxp

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:05 (eighteen years ago)

"cooler"

― Ludo, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

I'm humble by nature.

― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

so much depends
on my
wallowing in
internal
whimsy
I
again

― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

is this ilm jandek street team day or somethuing?

― Crackle Box, Saturday, 9 February 2008 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

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I'm in

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:16 (five years ago)

six months pass...

Jandek...the book.

Jandek New BOOK Release:

0127 The Rays Of Light That Did Not Illumine https://t.co/s2obsK93TT pic.twitter.com/SLwvEDCEIR
— Sheila Smith (@veganloca) May 17, 2021

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:18 (five years ago)

I'm assuming poetry...but hoping for confessional autobiography.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:30 (five years ago)

Then it turns out it's just nothing but accounting figures.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:33 (five years ago)

"1990, good year."

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:33 (five years ago)

Hoping for horror stories, expecting lyrics

― remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:39 (five years ago)

hoping for political cartoons

― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:43 (five years ago)

given the title and shape I'm guessing LP cover photobook

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:06 (five years ago)

friend of mine got it

20 page prose poem

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:38 (five years ago)

only $10 on the website!

― sleeve, Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:40 (five years ago)

three years pass...

what does it mean when Jandek just sounds REALLY right to you? like, the planets are aligned and any album or live recording of his is just...right in your mental wheelhouse. all the chords and notes and riffs sound like the perfect way to play something. the singing and lyrics the perfect way to express life on earth.

it isn't always like this. by a long shot. should i call a doctor? or just roll with it while it lasts?

i mean this glasgow sunday live album right now is just hitting the spot in a big way. but i've been listening all morning and it just sounds righter and righter.

― scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:47 (two years ago)

Just roll with it. That aphorism about everything finding an audience eventually is legitimate.

Too bad yr not in Los Angeles, Jandek is playing the Lodge Room tonight and there's still tickets available

― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:05 (two years ago)

sometimes when I’m listening to John Oswald’s Plexure I’m just like “I don’t need to listen to anything else again. can all music be like this?”

― brimstead, Monday, 3 June 2024 04:47 (two years ago)

yeah in my experience listening to Jandek is this journey from "I'm too upright to not have to be thinking about the whole deal" to "I'm listening to music, but I'm also thinking about Jandek" to "I've internalized all the stuff about Corwood and his anonymity and his emergence and that's all background now and I'm just listening and it feels like music that is very alive, very human, very individual."

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:56 (two years ago)

Telling my kids this was Primus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLwiYpSTFE

― Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:59 (two years ago)

that is such a magical clip

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:06 (two years ago)

Grab yrself a can o' Cor woo-da

― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:22 (two years ago)

I know I heard this late at night on KROQ in 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgAdBibDVwE

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 June 2024 18:06 (two years ago)

call me crazy but jandek and his wife seem annoying af and im glad i didnt pay to see that haha

― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 3 June 2024 19:19 (two years ago)

first of all - i am totally happy for him and them
but wow, given what Jandek represented way-back-when
(i was at that first glasgow gig)
it is hard to wrap my wee brain around the idea that he's in a long-term relationship with (married to?) someone who likes to post snaps of them both on instagram! such an inversion of the earlier anonymity. it's kinda nice.

https://www.instagram.com/veganloca/?hl=en

― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:13 (two years ago)

my brother took my nephews to that rudyards gig. they must have been 10 & 13 or so
apparently the encore started up exactly where the main set emded

― sknybrg, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:34 (two years ago)

wow i had no idea about mrs. jandek! so weird. she is a really big Smiths fan. what a world we live in.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 02:50 (two years ago)

call me crazy but jandek and his wife seem annoying af and im glad i didnt pay to see that haha

all the best Jandek stuff is pretty annoying! but it's for getting annoyed by in the privacy of your home

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:06 (two years ago)

Don't paint your teeth

― timellison, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:11 (two years ago)

too late

― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:01 (two years ago)

It's wild looking back that all the speculation at the time was that Sterling was ill and close to death which was why he started playing shows, when now with hindsight it looks far more likely it was his wife's idea.

― Overtoun House windows (aldo), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:11 (two years ago)

he had definitely been ill, at least according to my nurse wife who saw him play in like 2007-2008 and was struck by it

― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:12 (two years ago)

i.e. why not both?

― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:13 (two years ago)

sometimes a good relationship can change someone's life

― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:23 (two years ago)

every time i eat a cantaloupe i hear jandek singing "cantaloupes are SOOOOOO good to eat"

― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 17:51 (two years ago)

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