Helmet just didn't seem to be able to come up with enough good tunes after that one. Betty would about make a good EP.
I would have liked to seen them live back then, but never got around to seeing them play.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 17 June 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Orange Pimp (Orange Pimp), Saturday, 17 June 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 June 2006 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Page Hamilton has one thing to prove: "can he make another good record?"
Because that hasn't happened since Meantime.
He does have a right to be a grumpy old man. Garbage like Candlebox stole his gimmick and trademark riffs and hit platinum with them. And becuase they did, they got dated quick.
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Saturday, 17 June 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Not once have I ever heard a Candlebox song on the radio and thought "hmm, is this Helmet?"
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 17 June 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Dunno about that, but Page stole it from Prong in the first place, so it's all relative.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway...strap it on and meantime are classic.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Bwahahahaha
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Candlebox's breakout hit had a hook that ripped off "In The Meantime."
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Sunday, 18 June 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Um, you've heard Prong, right?
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 June 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
it's true, that "heaven let your light shine down" turd they did
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link
that was collective soul not candlebox wasn't it?
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link
its definitely better than Candlebox's hit at least! i can't even hardly remember what it sounds like.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Ok anyways Helmet rules and Page is OTM here:"I hear so many bands that, to me, I can't distinguish between them," he said, talking about the current scene. "It's sort of like, 'Insert four guys with tattoos here.' And it's pseudo-hardcore or pseudo-punk rock or emo. It just seems like you get your 'Rock Star 101' manual and fill in the blanks. This music just doesn't interest me at this point in my life."
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
1. Bands who are influenced by Converge/Botch/Coalesce/Dilinger Escape Plan, but with simpler riffs and a tendency to break up the dissonance with cheesy stabs at melody. Alternating screaming and obnoxious sing-songy vocals. Sound like a cornier Deftones.
2. The more metallic-sounding bands with ripped-off In Flames/At the Gates riffage, also alternating screaming and obnoxious sing-songy vocals.
3. Bands rooted in "hardcore" but unabashedly pop-punk influenced as well. High-pitched, nasal vocals.
Of course none of these categories are exclusive or anything.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link
"Or how about Finger Eleven, whose name must be a reference to some sort of creepy extra finger that only truly creepy people have. Their song "Drag You Down" has the NIN midtempo march of the slugs thingy down pat. The lyrics sound like stuff Trent Reznor writes down in the middle of the night to help him remember his dreams better: "Teething," "It's biting," "I'm bleeding." And the video itself, much like Spineshank's and a whole lot by other nü-by bands, takes place in one of those haunted machine shops that evoke NAFTA more than they evoke some blasted postapocalyptic vision of decay. Blame it on Einstürzende Neubauten, or maybe Janet Jackson. Or Helmet, whose prescient 1992 "Unsung" video introduced warehouse space, lockstepped dude-friendly Big Black riffs, skater shorts, and Dischordian X-estential vagueness to a generation of future Finger Elevens whose previous delvings into metal consisted of their big sister's Ratt collection. Anyway, Finger Eleven's bass player, like most bass players, has one of the lamest hairdos on earth. And the guitarist is still wearing X-tremely huge pants which everyone will agree are likeso over."
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link
He was in Tomahawk (he's on their first album, anyway) and going back a bit further he played drums on an album by the Mark Of Cain, who sounded a lot like Helmet's Australian cousins anyway.
― LC (Damian), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
He's in Battles.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Sorry, but you're an utter dingbat.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
If you can't tell the difference between shit like "Prove You Wrong" (the only Prong song anyone other than metal mooks ever heard or cared about) and Helmet you are deaf and musically ignorant.
Prong = Just because your singer was the doorman at CBGBs doesn't make you cool. Face it, you're a 4/4 metal band.
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Sunday, 18 June 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Prong released three albums prior to Prove You Wrong, all of which pre-date Helmet's debut.
You're still a dingbat and obviously have a hard time admitting when you're out of your depth.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link
or..Downtown Juile Brown!
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 June 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
They're playing a local venue here tonight. 14 years ago they played to a place about fifteen times as big not far away. I don't so much feel old as think, "They've reached their best level."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 August 2007 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.drop-d.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/helmet-meantime.jpg
fuckin the best...
― Stormy Davis, Monday, 9 May 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i would be curious to see a best of poll. listening to "so easy to get bored" over and over today for some reason. still sounds amazing!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
best of records or best of songs?cause if it's the first the winner is obvious isn't it?
― nostormo, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
Helmet on a Kibbutz. Helmet at Masada. Helmet at King David's Tomb. It was great.
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 11:24 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like a line from a Mark Leyner novel.
songs, obv!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
id vote in that
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
the problem is i'm lazy.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
are these guys touring again? sure i saw their name on a tokyo listings page.
― sam500, Thursday, 8 September 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
"What people make the mistake of is saying, 'Well, I don't hear jazz.' I'm not playing jazz," he said. "It's not jazz. But I can hear the jazz influences. Name me one other band on the planet that's using a major-7 sharp 11 chord with a 13 in the chorus. None. This is my tuning. None. I guarantee it."
― mookieproof, Saturday, 22 December 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
> Name me one other band on the planet that's using a major-7 sharp 11 chord with a 13 in the chorus
Shudder to Think
― Poliopolice, Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
this is fucking weird but I am listing to do make say think on spotify right now and p sure I just heard that song
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
chord I mean
also I bet there's chicago and yes songs with that chord in the chorus
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:36 (eleven years ago) link
I dig helmet and all I guess, but claiming ownership of a chord is like some next level shredder asshole nonsense.
― tiniest homeless (jjjusten), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:41 (eleven years ago) link
Pity he didn't put so much care and thought into his crappy vocal melodies or Helmet would have been much better.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:10 (eleven years ago) link
C'mon, this is just a Foo Fighters song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFMvststF0
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link
awful
― Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
i'm not gonna listen to that. MEANTIME 4EVER.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
i got this double band of susans Cd comp thing not long ago and i don't think i knew that there was this weird proto-helmet phase of that band. it's not great stuff and sounds really weird next to older cooler band of susans stuff. which i like a lot.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
or maybe not even proto-helmet. i never heard the last couple of records and page isn't even on them now that i look. anyway, weird beefy grunge-era band of susans.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
love agenda and the word and the flesh are still essential though. they sound even better to me now than they did back then.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
I've come around on Helmet since 2003, when I posted way upthread about seeing Caspar Brötzmann Massaker open for them. Now I have their first four albums in my iPod. I've still never heard the album Page and Caspar did together. I should get around to that one day.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 13 October 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link
Scott, the last BoS album is pretty great. There's at least one essential song Pardon My French, and I pretty much love the whole thing, though the opening track is on the gothy side (which might not be a problem for many). I'm sure you can find a cheap copy...
― dlp9001, Thursday, 13 October 2016 02:00 (seven years ago) link
i don't think I ever knew Page Hamilton was in Band of Susans
― akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link
I think it is possible to mix skronky guitar with Beatle harmonies, but that new Helmet tune is not the recipe.
― earlnash, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:51 (seven years ago) link
Meantime is sounding hard as hell atm
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link
Meantime makes me want to pump iron
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
I’m kind of amazed by how few people are vouching for Strap it On. I still think it’s their one truly perfect album
― beamish13, Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
I listened to Strap It On the other week and it was OK but their run from Meantime through Aftertaste is the good stuff.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link