No thread on the Girl Talk album, surely some mistake

ugh i hate when this convo degrades to this

arguing past each other. 'fun' vs. ''fun''

kinda think yr probably all otm re: douchey girl talk superfans but if someone said 'hey gbx let's go to a girl talk show' i wouldn't say no because i thought it wouldn't be fun or that i wouldn't dance, it'd be because the tickets are probably too expensive these days

GT albums are a hard listen overall (too jarring, eventually tedious, concept wears thin), but in small doses -- and live -- he's a blast.

oh yeah that too, assume my willingness to go again includes the ticket price going back down from $60 to $16

a girl talk show is $60?

GT albums are a hard listen overall (too jarring, eventually tedious, concept wears thin), but in small doses -- and live -- he's a blast.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, November 15, 2010 7:59 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, this. this one is taking 4eva to download, but i was actually encouraged by whoever it was upthread that said the samples are "too long." there are parts of his other albums where whatever groove he's locked together with his samples seems good enough to sustain an entire track, but he's discarded it after 16 seconds.

i cant get it download at all

yeah, see the Real Love/These Eyes bit on Feed the Animals.

lil markers it took like fifteen minutes for the thing to ~start~ DLing after i clicked the link

guess thats not that bad considering in 1999 id wait a half hour for one 3 MB song to download

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/RaffiRadio.jpg

I think whatever server they're hosting it on is queuing people up. this probably should have been released as an official torrent or something

anyway I'm digging this album, since it's in a similar style to feed the animals and whatever growing pains that album caused have been smoothed over by now.

i dont think there is a right way to like girl talk & if there is, chances are it's not the way that whiney does

girl talk is american dubstep

american dubstep is not girltalk, though.

http://unpiano.com/music/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/girl_talk.jpg

WOO!

let me help you with your girl talk problems

man it's always sad to hear him drop a classic jay verse because it reminds me of how bad he is right now.

also 'tenderness' is a dope track I did not know about before this album and I am thankful for the rec.

I can't get it to download either. I took the advice of this thread and let it sit, but eventually it just keeps giving me "server took too long to respond errors".

i downloaded it from the link upthread

whiney explains himself

Night Ripper was like "lets make this AOR dross infectious by only playing the money shots and adding rap." The last two are like "lets make rap hilarious by playing it against Fine Young Cannibals"

does this make you whiney's sock

would like to hear whiney's thoughts on the new kanye too

like a whiney ouija

would like to hear whiney's thoughts on the new kanye too

― dayo, Monday, November 15, 2010 11:05 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

check twitter

Did you mean: whitney twitter

I feel like whiney has already put more time into this album than the girl talk dude has

What's the vocal track over Fugazi's "Waiting Room"? That one works really well.

― She Got the Shakes, Monday, November 15, 2010 4:54 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"rude boy" right?

― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Monday, November 15, 2010 5:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

when i read this i thought it would be the other way around :(

Night Ripper was like "lets make this AOR dross infectious by only playing the money shots and adding rap." The last two are like "lets make rap hilarious by playing it against Fine Young Cannibals"

― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

dunno if I agree w/ this. is there really a big diff between the sample lists for night ripper and feed the animals? the only thing's changed is the arrangements, as has been mentioned here and w/r/t to FTA he holds onto his samples for way longer. is he doing that to bring the lulz by playing rap over FYC? how about when he drops weezy over new order?

also pretty boy swag over windowlicker is genius #thesearesomeofmyfavoritethings

Yeah I still can't download it, either. Ah well.

expand the thread & use the link posted after today's revive

that's how i got it

Thanks, j0rdan.

What track does the grunt in the background in track six come from ("On and On")?

Would it be fair to say that the people on this thread who have issues with Girl Talk have a vested interest in hip-hop and how it's used and perceived? To the extent that it possibly clouds their ability to hear the albums primarily as sonic creations?

rockist about hip-hop, whodathunkit

i dunno if these ARE primarily sonic creations, the jokey social element is a big part of it surely

it's a thin line between clever and tee-hee and this guy has always walked all over it

I feel like a lot of the issues are based on the idea of a theoretical Girl Talk fan as an indie rock listener who is disdainful of or willfully uninformed about hip hop until Girl Talk makes it "acceptable" and/or "funny" by mixing hip hop with indie rock/classic rock, which seems like a very outdated concept.

OTM

unusual or unexpected juxtaposition can definitely create a humorous element in art but I think "jokey" implies a disdain or mockery on the part of the artist that I don't detect

jaymc and n/a both otm

right, exactly, sure. we can all agree that girl talk is shitty music on its own merits

Yeah, I'm not denying that he's exploiting, to some extent, the funny resonances that naturally result from mixing hip-hop and rock, but he strikes me as being very passionate about all sorts of pop music, and I think that's a big part of his widespread appeal as well.

In general I think most indie rock fans, as far as they can be generalized, are very open to hip hop. We're talking about people in their 20s-40s, the majority of which have been around hip hop (on the radio, on TV, etc) their entire lives and are actively interested in music and culture. It's not a foreign thing to them.

The furthest I would go would be to say that maybe to some Girl Talk fans, the hip hop elements are a shortcut for them to explore and hear new hip hop. Maybe they could work harder to seek out the original songs on their own, maybe they're not up to date on all the new songs, but I don't think they hear the hip hop elements of Girl Talk songs as a joke or something that's being made fun of.

part of it is an attempt to make hip-hop more palatable to those do like it by filling more of the sonic space that a lot of the music in its original form intentionally allows for. that's simply a matter of preference - how you might prefer hip-hop to sound musically, potentially. on that basis GT's problems for me revolve around his frequently corny or uninteresting choices (e.g. using classic US rock as a new backdrop for Luda) which i wouldn't wanna do myself - but there are still numerous occasions where he's doing just what i would but more effectively. the other problem is committing to the album format in this way, squeezing and condensing stuff to the point where's got to use enough vocal snippets to fill the space and that means resorting to tired old acapellas like skee-lo 'i wish' and whatnot.

think this album is great

+ if there's anything on this more annoying than will.i.am/nicki 'check it out' i'll be surprised tbh

to most folks, parties suck when they hear tunes they don't know.